Lots in the valleys don't like being told what to do.Quote:
Originally Posted by goats
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Lots in the valleys don't like being told what to do.Quote:
Originally Posted by goats
But is Methyr now top because its numbers have increased or because the places that were above it have decreased due to local lockdowns?Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
I cannot keep up with these stats any more. I'm becoming graph-blind.
I see Nicola Sturgeon has said that the lockdown in Scotland that started on monday has already resulted in the R number going down to 1.
It must be a miracle, it normally takes 3 weeks to find out that. Next she'll be telling us if they had independence it would go down even further overnight!!
"Cautious optimism' over spread of virus in Scotland
People in Scotland have been living under tough restrictions since Monday and it has started to have an effect on the spread of the virus, according to Nicola Sturgeon. The first minister said the "R number" metric - showing on average how many people each patient with the virus will infect - had dropped to about one. A five-tier system was brought in across the country earlier this week, which saw restrictions on household mixing and hospitality. Ms Sturgeon said she still could not rule out a full lockdown, but Scotland was in a "better position" than England."
Yes and its recent contacts. Which I believe is those theyve been in contact with in the 48 hours before symptoms. Hopefully when they have symptoms they wont have been in contact with people but if they have them as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by xsnaggle
Apologies if my comment seemed a bit odd. Using the daily positive test total as a scare may have been the wrong way of expressing some scepticism of how the numbers are delivered. The graphs and projections by whitty and valance seemed to me to be political numbering to attempt to justify rather than factual. The more concise and common sense figures from the NHS bloke tonight gave a better understanding.Quote:
Originally Posted by Michael Morris
I hope Mr and Mrs Elwood keep safe. As someone myself who has personal reasons to be wary and as a person with a responsibility for a vulnerable adult I am not stupid when it comes to following guidelines and acting sensibly.
There are so many inconsistencies and contradictions that it's no wonder that people ignore what's recommended and there's never going to be any rules put in place that some elements in society will follow. They go by their own rules whatever anyone says.
Does anyone? Do they want to be held responsible for potentially killing people? I don’t think so.....Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee
The App isnt great at this though, Bluetooth wasnt really designed for judging distanceQuote:
Originally Posted by xsnaggle
Much more friendly with Family and Neighbours uo there..........Ahem......Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee
Do you reckon that they're in and out of eachothers houses up their a bit more?Quote:
Originally Posted by goats
Nah, valleys mentality of believing that you're right about something even if facts show you haven't got a clue.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tuerto
I'd also say that although there are terraced streets like the one I now live on in Cardiff, there are far more of them up here - people tend to live much closer to each other up here and I believe this makes it easier for the virus to spread, it cannot be a coincidence that the virus has been most prevalent in the poorest areas this autumn.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee
Did I just hear that the virus has evolved into a different strain in Sweden, and jumped from animals to humans on a mink farm.
The vaccine that is going to save the world may just have become outmoded......:frown:
https://www.theguardian.com/environm...cientists-warnQuote:
Originally Posted by Cyclops
Err.... it was Denmark, not Sweden. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-54835538Quote:
Originally Posted by Cyclops
It happened in Spain last summer, they killed about 100,000 of them. For some reason they can catch it from humans and spread it....Quote:
Originally Posted by Cyclops
Wasn’t there also a difference in the Spanish strain picked up by tourists and brought back here in August/September?Quote:
Originally Posted by Cyclops
people also seem to live on the same street as their extended family far more that in Cardiff.Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
Yes. Family and friends live close together.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tuerto
There is also far more of a community in the valleys than the City.
"Absolutely no way we could have been infected at that place, yet if someone who went there within 14 days either side of when we went, gets symptoms, [almost certainly contracted from somewhere else], we will get a phone call instructing us both to stay indoors for 2 weeks and get people to drop of food etc."Quote:
Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish
That claim. It's bollocks.
England are going into a lockdown, so the Welsh lockdown will end come hell or high water.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vindec
Yes, I'd agree with that,Quote:
Originally Posted by Rjk
Yes. Also ive noticed areas in the Cynon Valley with a higher proportion of terraced houses seem to have a higher rate. Loads of families who more or less live next door to each other.Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
Additionally the average age in most valleys towns is significantly higher than in Cardiff, not including places like treforest.
It amazes me how dull people are about mask wearing. I think half of them honestly believe it is to stop someone else giving it to them. Pull up at a traffic light and the person next to you in their car all alone is wearing a mask, with all the windows up . What do they honestly think they're achieving? I was up the valleys the other day and saw a woman walking her dog. There wasn't another soul, or even a house within half a mile of her but she was wearing a mask. And you see that time after time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Croesy Blue
I understand better safe than sorry but shirley they know someone who can put them tight?
If you scan into a place like I scan into my local the app keeps a record and if someone then reports a positive test and their app shows they have been in my local then the app tells me someone has been in the same place as me within the time frame (48 hrs) but it doesn't require any action. It only requires action if the positive testing person, when contacted says, "I sat int he pub with Xsnaggle for half an hour yesterday" and if that happens I will receive a phone call telling me what to do.Quote:
Originally Posted by Croesy Blue
I am more inclined to criticise those who don't wear masks. What annoys me is those people who wear a mask getting onto a bus but as soon as they get on either remove it or wear it around their chins.Quote:
Originally Posted by xsnaggle
Another farce which only makes it harder for the public to have faith in "the science".
A chart shown on Saturday's Prime Ministerial briefing which claimed there could be 1,500 deaths a day next month, has now been downgraded to a 1,000 a day - still bad, but how can you have any faith in the new figure?
Some better news;-
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...scientists-say
And some not so good news - although it does say there are signs of flattening in new cases in Wales;-
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-54837387
Yes, I guess the big thing will be how quickly the new cases line begins to drop. If it drops suddenly then great, but I can't see it somehowQuote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
So why do they take our contact details ? The above is a summary of what's on the Govt. webpages. Oh, and if you reply, try and be polite..Quote:
Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman
The people not listening could find themselves in lockdown for months.....
Covid: Lockdown 'should continue for months' in Merthyr https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-54837387
If they are not listening, what difference would it make.Quote:
Originally Posted by goats
But Mr Drakeford has already said there will be no more local lockdowns here in Wales! So if they don't listen maybe we'll all be locked down.Quote:
Originally Posted by goats
Contact details are taken as a person who has tested positive will be asked by contact tracers who they have recently been in contact with and where they have been. Recent is the 2 days before getting symptoms onwards.Quote:
Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish
If they say they were in that cafe and at a time they were at risk of passing it on the cafe will have your details. You can then be contacted if you were in close contact of that person.
Your post sorry was completely inaccurate.
No it's not. If someone tests positive they're asked for all their contacts - including work, restaurants bars etc., where they have been when they became infected. That can be anytime up to 14 days before the test proved they had Covid19.[ the person may have had symptoms for up to 14 days prior] If they visited the cafe in question during that period, NHS track and trace contacts all those tel numbers of people who have been to the cafe during that period, and are then instructed to self isolate for 14 days. That's what it says on the Govt. webpages - it's not an opinion, it's a fact..Quote:
Originally Posted by Hilts
Utter bollocks.Quote:
Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish
As the Gunman says. Utter bollox.Quote:
Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish
Read this:Quote:
Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/nhs-test...e-how-it-works
And this:
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/maintain...test-and-trace
And this:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/explainers-52442754
Educate yourself before spreading any more misinformation. The track and trace system is designed to limit outbreaks of the virus, not close the bloody country.
Contact tracing and how it works.
https://gov.wales/test-trace-protect...#section-42170
Someone you have been in close proximity during a period beginning up to 2 days before they developed symptoms.
Yes it can take 14 days to develop symptomsm. But its the contacts 2 days before not 14 - I believe ive read thats because they think you can become infectious 2 days before - not 14.
In short if someone youve been in close contact with develops symptoms within 2 days of you being in contact with them you isolate. If not your ok.