Just remind me whether it was Dubya or Bliar who represented 'the left' in the invasion of Iraq?Quote:
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Just remind me whether it was Dubya or Bliar who represented 'the left' in the invasion of Iraq?Quote:
Originally Posted by the leader
I stopped looking at this thread as these terrorist threads are getting very repetitive and everyone seems in a fixed and stubborn position on it. So I saw your reply Leader by chance.Quote:
Originally Posted by the leader
I fully agree with everything you have written and wish I hadn't used the label of "right wing". (Though you would need to flesh out the Corbyn part considerably for me to get your point there). You are right to pull me up on my poor wording and my lazy labelling. I had written "far right" initially, but I didn't want to dismissively label lots posters as "far righters" (though I think there are two who I don't read), so I edited to just "right". I actually tried to edit the post and take it out but 5 minutes had elapsed.
I've been to the killing fields in Cambodia. I've seen with my own eyes that the left is certainly capable of anti-humane fascism. I consider myself in the middle politically. Though the middle looks like the left to a lot of people as politics in the West has taken a big general shift to the right in my view.
In the UK parliament it was certainly lobbied and approved by the Tories and bLiarites though Jon. Opposed, generally speaking, by the lefty MPs.Quote:
Originally Posted by jon1959
No it really isn't remotely in the same league as your comments. What part of ',bombed into their graves' is factually incorrect? I thoroughly dislike the bombing of civilians. It has happened so many times in the Middle East since 2003.Quote:
Originally Posted by goslow
I see our current problems in the West as related to our continued involvement in bombing in the Middle East. Until we become extricated from our involvement in the Middle East we are going to face more and more of these appalling atrocities across European cities.
Although you might want to have another look at how many Tory MPs there were during this time of a large labour majority To say the Torys 'backed the war' is a little disingenuous. If every Tory had voted against it would still have carried.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blue in the Face
No it wouldn't.Quote:
Originally Posted by the leader
139 Tories voted for the war - and the motion was carried with a majority of 263. If they had voted the other way it wouldn't have carried.
http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/List_of...d_for_Iraq_War
244 Labour MPs voted for the war - 174 voted against
139 Tory MPs voted for the war - 26 voted against
I didn't realise how many Labour MP's voted against the war.Quote:
Originally Posted by jon1959
The last time I looked at this was for the general election before last. I think there wasn't a vote for the invasion vote from the Lib Dems. The Tories, had a bigger majority proportionally than New Labour. This is going off memory though I am sure I'm right on this.Quote:
Originally Posted by the leader
But as I said in my post "In the UK parliament it was certainly lobbied and approved by the Tories and bLiarites". Am I wrong?
David Cameron supports Aston Villa.Quote:
Originally Posted by thehumblegringo
I thought it was West Ham?Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
Or anybody with the same kit :hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr Lecter
He shags ham.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr Lecter
Cold shower for you I think?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mrs Steve R
Are you telling porkies again :hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr Lecter
Sorry the last reply wasn't for you, it was for Mrs R's ham comment. This site is a bleedin' nightmare on a phone!Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr Lecter
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Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
:hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
:hehe: Sifting through all the ads must be a boar.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
It's true ... but these jumping adverts are something else!Quote:
Originally Posted by lardy
I see his daughter has also joined the family business :hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by Mrs Steve R