Re: EUROS thread. Thursday 20th June 2024.
“At least the ref is being consistent” says Shearer - he’s giving everything to England.
Three of the “best front four in the tournament” taken off. What’s Cole Palmer done to upset Southgate?
Re: EUROS thread. Thursday 20th June 2024.
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the other bob wilson
“At least the ref is being consistent” says Shearer - he’s giving everything to England.
Three of the “best front four in the tournament” taken off. What’s Cole Palmer done to upset Southgate?
it's because he's black.
Re: EUROS thread. Thursday 20th June 2024.
England have many excellent players.
Southgate does not know how to create a team.
Gareth - the best team is not necessarily the best 11 individuals.
Re: EUROS thread. Thursday 20th June 2024.
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az city
England have many excellent players.
Southgate does not know how to create a team.
Gareth - the best team is not necessarily the best 11 individuals.
Spot on.
Maybe a few years of struggling to qualify might generate a bit more of an “all in it together” team spirit?
Long may their sense of entitlement continue 😆
Re: EUROS thread. Thursday 20th June 2024.
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az city
England have many excellent players.
Southgate does not know how to create a team.
Gareth - the best team is not necessarily the best 11 individuals.
He puts the shackles on his players. He's too scared of dying on his sword by being a bit adventurous - similar to Bulut
Re: EUROS thread. Thursday 20th June 2024.
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Rock_Flock_of_Five
He puts the shackles on his players. He's too scared of dying on his sword by being a bit adventurous - similar to Bulut
That’s a large factor, but as I said earlier in the thread, it’s just mind-numbing that a country with a huge pool of talented players like England are selecting people out of position in the early stages of a major tournament. A right-back at left-back and another right-back in midfield. It’s beyond stupid and obviously doesn’t work.
Re: EUROS thread. Thursday 20th June 2024.
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Rock_Flock_of_Five
The England team performance is a reflection of Southgate's personality. He seldom moves from the dugout and always looks impassive, there's no 'fire in his belly'
I hope Erol Bulut stops doing his Gareth Southgate impersonation next season.
PS - they both 'hate to lose'!
PPS - just seen all the other posts saying the same!
Re: EUROS thread. Thursday 20th June 2024.
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the other bob wilson
“At least the ref is being consistent” says Shearer - he’s giving everything to England.
Three of the “best front four in the tournament” taken off. What’s Cole Palmer done to upset Southgate?
Someone like Cole Palmer is probably exactly what England need, he gets on the ball and pushes forward, he makes things happen, he's had an outstanding season. Not to say Eze or Bowen aren't talented but he should be coming on before that pair.
Re: EUROS thread. Thursday 20th June 2024.
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The Lone Gunman
That’s a large factor, but as I said earlier in the thread, it’s just mind-numbing that a country with a huge pool of talented players like England are selecting people out of position in the early stages of a major tournament. A right-back at left-back and another right-back in midfield. It’s beyond stupid and obviously doesn’t work.
Some players, Alaba from LB to CDM, sure Kimmich was a RB before he went into midfield (may be the other way around mind)
so it can work, maybe Southgate saw the headlines in his imagination, he's a genius if it works and an idiot if it doesnt.
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Just saw the Southgate interview. Looks like that's the end of the TAA experiment.
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Great to be able to watch a football match now, after what came just before. More entertainment in the first 10 than in the whole of the other match.
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Rock_Flock_of_Five
A fair comparison. This playing out from the back with endless, negative passes is mind-numbing.
I'm in a bar right now crammed with football-crazy locals (most of whom support England), they're all playing with their phones.
endless passes isn't something I recognise from Buluts Cardiff team
Re: EUROS thread. Thursday 20th June 2024.
Do you think Spain would notice if Wales swapped Neco Williams for Nico Williams ?
Re: EUROS thread. Thursday 20th June 2024.
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The Lone Gunman
That’s a large factor, but as I said earlier in the thread, it’s just mind-numbing that a country with a huge pool of talented players like England are selecting people out of position in the early stages of a major tournament. A right-back at left-back and another right-back in midfield. It’s beyond stupid and obviously doesn’t work.
Heard on the radio today that he’s planning on playing Shaw at some stage. A good left back, but hasn’t played for months.
As you say, crazy that a team with so many players to choose from, can’t field another decent LB
Re: EUROS thread. Thursday 20th June 2024.
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jon1959
I hope Erol Bulut stops doing his Gareth Southgate impersonation next season.
PS - they both 'hate to lose'!
PPS - just seen all the other posts saying the same!
Both Scared to lose.
Re: EUROS thread. Thursday 20th June 2024.
The Serbia game would have gone the same way for England if they'd have possessed that little bit of quality Denmark had. Southgate doesn't seem to have learnt from the opening game. The midfield play is shocking, it's slow, ponderous, without purpose. It's mainly on Southgate, but those players need to turn up and show some quality when needed. They look like they're playing like they think Southgate is a bit of a pleb tactically.
Re: EUROS thread. Thursday 20th June 2024.
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The Lone Gunman
That’s a large factor, but as I said earlier in the thread, it’s just mind-numbing that a country with a huge pool of talented players like England are selecting people out of position in the early stages of a major tournament. A right-back at left-back and another right-back in midfield. It’s beyond stupid and obviously doesn’t work.
Totally.
Re: EUROS thread. Thursday 20th June 2024.
Have you ever seen an England team as comfortable on the ball as Denmark were earlier, not to mention Spain !?
England players are fine when they have a sprinkling of quality foreign players around them in their club sides but put them all together in the same international team and they seem utterly clueless. Compare their movement and ball control with almost every team in the tournament and ask yourself how on God's Earth are they considered one of the favourites.
Re: EUROS thread. Thursday 20th June 2024.
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Moodybluebird
Have you ever seen an England team as comfortable on the ball as Denmark were earlier, not to mention Spain !?
England players are fine when they have a sprinkling of quality foreign players around them in their club sides but put them all together in the same international team and they seem utterly clueless. Compare their movement and ball control with almost every team in the tournament and ask yourself how on God's Earth are they considered one of the favourites.
According to Southgate it's the lack of Kalvin Phillips which is causing the issue :hehe::facepalm:
Re: EUROS thread. Thursday 20th June 2024.
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Der Kaiser
According to Southgate it's the lack of Kalvin Phillips which is causing the issue :hehe::facepalm:
That's fantastic!
Re: EUROS thread. Thursday 20th June 2024.
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Der Kaiser
According to Southgate it's the lack of Kalvin Phillips which is causing the issue :hehe::facepalm:
I do feel sorry for Southgate because he has such a very small pool of players to choose from.......