Great and candid interview from YJB here. Well done today.
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Great and candid interview from YJB here. Well done today.
https://fb.watch/lWzjeowyuI/
Well, the goodish news is that the BBC is now forecasting that the heavy rain that was an 80 per cent probability to hit Manchester today may turn to light rain at times. The bad news is that Sunday’s forecast, which had offered hope of some play at least, has now been downgraded to one of an eighty per cent probability of heavy rain throughout the playing day - if the forecast turns out to be right, we’re not going to see any more play in this test match.
Bookies are now offering odds on the draw being the far most likely outcome for this one (8/13). Managed to get some money on at 2/1 so looking good at the moment!
This is probably going to be a draw. Should have been going into the final test 2-2 with England favourites as they are now well on top of Australia and at the moment are the better side.
England will kick themselves if as likely Australia retain the ashes and forgetting Bairstow behind the stumps , the dropped catches and the batting collapse with a series of ridiculous shots in the 2nd test it will all come down to that declaration on the 1st day.
Still a great series.
Wood has made a huge difference. If hed been fit for all 5 England would have won.
Great series and such a tactical sport. It’s not just planning for five days, it’s planning for 25, the whole series. I always reckon in a five match series it’s a bit lame to blame the weather in one particular match. The Aussies raced into a 2-0 lead, capitalising on an, on times, inept England. In this country it’s inevitable at least one match is going to be weather affected, it’s not so much bad luck in this one because England are on top, it’s previous poor play in the same series.
Don’t follow cricket, but find it bizarre that it’s just for THOSE five days….coulddrain allday today and tomorrow then be fine Monday and Tuesday, so they draw it….so unfair when England clearly on top. Also means the Ozzie’s will retain the ashes whatever happens at the oval ?Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
Just re-started.
Huge task for England with the ball being so soggy but at least they are getting some play
Very pleased to be proved wrong.
A quick wicket could still make this interesting.
C'mon Woody!
Yes, anything less than England wins at Old Trafford and the Oval means Australia retain the Ashes.Quote:
Originally Posted by goats
Umpires call bad light - take of your pace bowlers or we go off. So says the umpire wearing tinted glasses.....
Labuschagne gone, Joe Root!
It's back on!
Spinners forced on and got some joy.
Great drama here.
Apparently they enhance the light.Quote:
Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish
Should make the players wear 'em!
Spinners getting a bit of joy, a race against time and the weather... then they go off for tea :facepalm:
Shirley they can't be feckin hungry!
There’s been plenty of occasions where teams have prayed for rain to save themselves.Quote:
Originally Posted by goats
It’s a case of accept it or return to open ended tests and the disruption that comes with it.
Michael Vaughan made a good point about having a pink ball available for when the light fades. Makes sense to me.
Bits of the game are stuck in the 19th century for the sake of preserving tradition, but that sometimes overrides something that could make an obvious improvement.
We'd have this done and dusted by now if it had been played in Southampton.
Piss off Andy Burnham :hehe::hehe:
Such a disappointment.
The final Test at 2-2 would have been a great event and something Test cricket badly needs.
England need to pick themselves up and get the draw.
Yes, the Lancashire mafia on Sky and the Yorkies have been up in arms about there not being any test matches north of Nottingham next time Australia tour,but the last two days have shown exactly why this perfectly sensible decision was taken by the ECB.Quote:
Originally Posted by Swiss Peter
Still plenty to play for at the Oval - if England can make it 2-2, everyone will know who the better team has been in the series. For a country whose cricketers are generally thought of as brash, Australia began defensively and have got more negative as the series went on.
I don’t think that’s fair on the two counties. Perhaps they could expand the playing hours at the northern grounds or have a reserve day as backup. Old Trafford is a fantastic cricket ground with a good tradition. Not been to Headingley, but it’s on my list.Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
I was joking :facepalm:Quote:
Originally Posted by TWGL1
Beauty of an afternoon in Cardiff…..amazing how it can be so different.Quote:
Originally Posted by Swiss Peter
Ah , sorry but that aside , a reserve day wouldn’t go amiss especially when it’s a series decider.Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
A reserve day would be a nightmare logistically.Quote:
Originally Posted by TWGL1
Security, stewards, catering, TV crews etc will all be contracted in and they’d be expected somewhere else the day after. You could throw cash at it but there are labour and equipment issues.
Plus where do you draw the line at reserve days? The next test starts when?
I doubt those from supporting Australia will care who was best.
There are reserve days for major one day finals , and as long as it’s scheduled before hand ( usually a few years in advance) I can’t see it being an issue, especially when it comes down to the ECB refunding gate receipts.Quote:
Originally Posted by Harry Paget Flashman
Over rates are getting ridiculously slow that there's an argument for scheduling 6 days anyway.
Nobody’s mentioning the pathetic over rate that saw only eighty two or eighty three overs bowled on the first three days. That’s an extra twenty odd overs there should have been- the umpires should keep the teams out there until the ninety overs have been bowled.
Good point that , mind you it’s not just down to the bowlers , what with concussion tests, glove changes, sight screen issues fingers issues , reviews and checking etcQuote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
It used to be that players were fined for slow over rates. Now I see no reason why play can't carry on a little longer anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Bloop
Make each session 2.5 hours long instead of 2 hours (roughly).
I've long since given up on attending another test match live given how much they charge for a ticket these days. The tickets are sold on the basis that there will be ninety overs of cricket, it's fair enough if weather intervenes to cause a reduction in that figure, but, on dry days, they should stay out there until ninety overs have been bowled to give the punters all of the cricket that the sky high price they paid promised.
One of the contributing factors is the ridiculous amount of no balls. Maybe there should be say 5 runs for a no ball or a bowler removed after a certain amount bowled. Something needs to be done. Ian Botham is one who went his entire career without bowling a single no bowl in any form of cricket. I believe Lillee and Kapil Dev also didnt bowl one in international cricket.
I just think it's funny that as the weather cost England this time the test rule book should be re-written.
Yeah but we are the much better side.
We could have won the first two and won the series after three games if....
If the Aussies didn't bowl so many no balls....
If the weather...
If my auntie etc...
I dont think anyone is saying this as the Ashes are gone.Quote:
Originally Posted by MacAdder
Test Cricket is in trouble and this has been a superb series between 2 really good sides and we should have been going to the final test at 2-2.
What we have got is a great game ruined by the weather and people looking for answers so there is a solution.
Both sides bowled no balls nobody saying it was just Australia. Again its something that needs to stop as people are paying a lot of money and they are not getting the overs in.
England could have won the 1st two tests. They didnt. Australia edged them. England edged the 3rd and England have dominated the 4th and just have a draw to show for it.
Thats the reality but it would have given Test Cricket a huge boost if the Ashes were on the line at the oval.
:thumbup:great init, how many times have england hid in the changing room or run off with the light:hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by MacAdder
As I said :biggrin:Quote:
Originally Posted by Hilts
I think things like a back up day for every test match is unfeasible - yes for things like the World Final we had earlier in the season,but not for all test matches.
On the other hand, I can’t see any problem in insisting that the full allocation of overs are bowled every day if the weather allows and cricket should move away from a situation where everyone goes home or back to hotels at 6.30 despite there being bright sunshine as has happened toooften in this series - things like that do the game no favours and makes it that much harder to retain any new fans attracted by the excitement of the Ashes battle.
None of that can be construed as sour grapes because Australia have retained the Ashes,it’s about people getting the full days play that they paid for.
Perhaps too much emphasis is being made of "The Ashes"?
Let's just call the series a draw if England win at the Oval and not mention the Ashes at all.
Let's have a contingency day for bad weather.
Lets play til 10pm.
Might as well have rolling subs.
Why not lets have yet another form of cricket, "the Six dayer"
Could it be that there is too much tinkering with the game of cricket, like say hmmmm...i dunno....football?
I'd say many poc.Quote:
Originally Posted by poc
Far too much rhetoric and propaganda on Sky.
Even if they smash England at the Oval there will be loads of, ahem, spin put on it.
I bet the Aussies are loving reading all the papers today.