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Originally Posted by az city
VAR penalty check. Ref goes to the screen. "He's not been sent over there to watch Coronation Street".:hehe: Good line - maybe just me :-)
Oh - and 2-0!
Never a penaltyQuote:
Originally Posted by Swiss Peter
And now likely England play Slovakia in the last 16. How f*cking lucky are they
England were the last thing on my mind. And people on here go on about the commentators being obsessed!.....:hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by City123
To be fair to myself, I only realised as I saw it on Twitter and Tyldesley's just mentioned it! I don't have the mental capacity to figure out the 3rd place permutations! :hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by Swiss Peter
Romania, Netherlands, Austria, Turkey, England, Slovakia, Switzerland & Italy in one half of the draw. Spain, Georgia, Germany, Denmark, Portugal, Slovenia, France and Belgium in the other! As it stands
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Originally Posted by City123
I've given up trying to work out the game to game permutations. I think the only confirmed R16 one is Switzerland v Italy, but I'm probably wrong.
Sorry. Germany v Denmark and France v Belgium too
Wins for Georgia and Turkey see them through.
Czech are out and Hungary are out as well after finishing the 5th 3rd placed team.
England now have another 3 games to find some form for the final
Have to say England are incredibly lucky here.
That looks incredibly lop sided.Quote:
Originally Posted by City123
Huge chance for England now and they haven't got out of second gear yet.
It could well be their year as they are playing poorly but getting the rub of the green.
Italy will knock them out on penalties after the game finishing 0-0 after extra timeQuote:
Originally Posted by Grangenders
Slovakia beat Belgium last week.Quote:
Originally Posted by City123
Fair point, though Belgium were well on top and had 2 tight goals disallowed. Slovakia then followed that result up with defeat to Ukraine and a draw with Romania. I think its fair to say England are fortunate to go from a potential game against Netherlands to Slovakia whilst the real heavy hitters are all in the other side of the drawQuote:
Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman
Don’t think any team deserved to qualify from group C really, bit of a poor advert for football.Quote:
Originally Posted by Michael Morris
Agreed, generally speaking the games have got more b9ring the longer the tournaments gone on - time for a change of format I’d say. How about a straight knock out involving thirty two teams with a simultaneous plate competition for those knocked out in the First Round?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kind of Blue
The crowds have been brilliant. I’d guess the people who actually attend these tournaments would strongly disagree with you. I think there are too many teams involved, but the group stage is obviously an important element of such a tournament. At least the supporters of the worst performing teams get a minimum of three games.Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
Some of the knockout games now will be ruined by teams playing defensively, just stop them scoring in the hope they can win on penalties, they need to change that. If it's a draw, the team with the most on-target shots wins, or if that's the same just shots, if the same corners, or something along those lines.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman
They need to change rules to make football more about attacking than who has the best defence and is good at taking penalties.
You couldn't possibly find an easier route to the final than the England side of the draw, Germany and Spain should meet fairly early, although there have been some odd results so far already, so you never can tell.Quote:
Originally Posted by City123
I guess that depends how you look at it. The bottom half of the draw includes the Euro 2020 champions and runners-up, and two of the five European quarter-finalists from the 2022 World Cup (one, Croatia, has already been eliminated).Quote:
Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue
It does look weaker on paper, but I think much of that is perception based on past glories rather than current form.
On FIFA rankings England's half has the two lowest ranked sides. 11 of the top 13 ranked countries from UEFA have made this stage - 5 in England's half, 6 in the other half of the draw. England's half contains the UEFA teams ranked 3rd, 5th, 8th and 10th while the other half contains the teams ranked 1st, 2nd, 4th, 6th and 9th.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman
I think that, had France and Belgium been in opposite halves of the draw as the top two ranked European teams, there would be nothing between either half in terms of being stronger or not.
After the debacle of Russia in 2018, euros in Baku and the farce in Qatar it’s just great to see a proper tournament again with loads of fans present and noisy…..gutting we didn’t make it, let’s hope we make the next World Cup at least, at least it’s one that’s attendableQuote:
Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman
USA, Mexico and Canada ?Quote:
Originally Posted by goats
Count me out on that one.
I don't like watching defensive football, although sometimes in sport you can admire the tactic.Quote:
Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue
Wales v Ireland in the egg was outstanding https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12ruyY7hq5k
I don't think its great viewing in terms of football but at the end of the day the smaller less favourable team is going to do what its got to do, you cant just change rules because something is boring. Celtic beating Barca etc.
At least you can go….russia or Qatar? Not even possibleQuote:
Originally Posted by William Treseder
The states is a vast place to go, always wanted to go to Canada got rels there. Been to Mexico twice and even got robbed by football fans after a match in Mexico City…not for the faint hearted I grant you but it’s an amazing country
I watched the game last night and he was playing in a different position for his country. They played him in a mobile front two and he ended up doing a lot of defending from deep central positions. Stick him on the left while giving him the freedom to roam and he will cause mayhem for any Champions League level team.Quote:
Originally Posted by BLUETIT
He scored an easy chance, created by a terrible pass by a Portuguese player.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
After that he lost the ball numerous times and when he went down in the centre circle as if he was shot, well that was just embarrassing, as the replay showed
Still not convinced
Stop press:—— forgot, he missed a sitter in the second half
You need to go through the teams and see who everybody is playing for. Not everybody is lucky enough to have a team of star players build around them like Messi & Ronaldo :biggrin:Quote:
Originally Posted by BLUETIT
Can’t understand a word of that :shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
If you’re try to suggest he’s a star, playing in a team of nobody’s, that makes it worse, as he should be setting an example, like Bale & Ramsey
Agree with this. You have to have a group stage. 18 months of qualifying, just to go out after one match? It would be a massive anti-climax for 16 countries.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman
You'd need to expand it to 32 teams if it was knockout all the way, and then that's more than half of the countries in UEFA.
I'm not a fan of that idea. It's pretty easy for a pro to get a shot on target from anywhere in the opposition half. It's a lot less skill than is needed to score a penalty.Quote:
Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue
You say about teams playing defensively to get to penalties, but if I was a coach with this system I'd be looking to get a healthy lead on shots in the first half, and then play 7 at the back to block everything in the second half. Sounds much worse than a penalty shootout.
I just had a look at the last Euros. Only four shootouts in 15 knockout games. I don't think it's a problem.
To me, it’s a TEAM game and should not be down to an individual to decide who goes through and who is out.Quote:
Originally Posted by lardy
Most corners first, then bookings, you fail as a team, not an individual
Georgia are behind the Faroe Islands, Liechtenstein, Luxembourg, Lithuania and Malta in the UEFA rankings, and they have just qualified for the knockout stages of a major tournament, yet it's just this one player who is holding them back :hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by BLUETIT
Correct me if I'm mistaken, but you spent half of last season having orgasms over a team that made football more about being defensive and was good at set pieces than about being more about attacking. :sherlock:Quote:
Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue
Most of last season, I either never attended or walked out at half time, so you know frig all about meQuote:
Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee
He quoted NCB not you.Quote:
Originally Posted by BLUETIT
'mare.
As Dembe said, that wasn't directed at you or anyone other than NCB. I lost count of the number of times he was delighted with us trying to be hard to beat, how it never mattered how we won or how we scored. If we created nothing at all during a game but scored with 1 attempt from a set piece after surviving chance after chance on our goal, that was fine.Quote:
Originally Posted by BLUETIT
Now, and somewhat confusingly, he's not a fan of teams playing for penalties and wants them to show more attacking intent, which was the polar opposite to our tactics for most of last season. I see the humour in this situation.
That's why more than one player takes a penalty in the shootout.Quote:
Originally Posted by BLUETIT
If a team is drawing and 4-0 up on corners with 20 minutes left, they'll just park the bus to go through. I don't see how this makes the game any better.
No orgasms that was you over your we score the wrong type of goals, and nonsense like if you took our wins out we'd be bottom of the league :hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee
Good post, that wouldn't work but for knockout games, there has to be a better way of deciding than penalties.Quote:
Originally Posted by lardy
The first rounds of games were good, attacking and entertaining, but the last set were defensive and more non scoring, lets see what happens with the knockouts and if lots of teams shut up shop.
It was mostly in reply to dampen down your negativity, if we win one nil I'll take it, it's a league anyway and completely different, plus I have no team in the Euros so would prefer to see good football.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee
The same at home next season, the football needs to improve on Bulut's phase two.