The twins are off again , Trump is a clown ndcwrong about lot , but he's right about China , dirty fecksQuote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
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The twins are off again , Trump is a clown ndcwrong about lot , but he's right about China , dirty fecksQuote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
Folk can call it what it wants , Chinese public health and living standards are appalling and barbaric ,thier government makes loads of dosh as it builds its military,Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
jails those who speak out , whilst 16 million live in poverty, and revert to dreadful eating behaviours and poor sanitation .
The Trump haters don't seem to care though, they cant criticise China's leaders in the same way as it does the Trump and USA administrations , pathetic and worryingly short sighted .
When you say he was right about China, this was what he was saying about the strong, sharp professional focus of President Xi when he was still calling it CoronaVirus and expecting the world to be great when the weather warms up.Quote:
Originally Posted by life on mars
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/0...utbreak-111915
Covid 19 seems perfectly fine for nearly everyone else, why not him and his lackeys?Quote:
Originally Posted by life on mars
He's only started recently. Before it was coronavirus. It's because he needs an enemy to focus on, so it's going to China.Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
If lifeonmars is concerned about short sightedness, maybe he needs to consider how the us will very soon be reliant on Chinese medical expertise and supplies to fight the virus. Now that's short sighted.
You can defend who you like scientists around the world have told us this is china born as have been other virus due to their unhealthy inter action with wild animal markets and facilitating animial viruses to cross over to humans .Quote:
Originally Posted by lardy
Let's hope no one near us dies because of this?
What's Mandarin for Virtue Signalling and Moral Narcissism I wonder?Quote:
Originally Posted by life on mars
I knew you'd slide into a non reply , good man , try some live bats if your hungryQuote:
Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays
Think you lost me at I knew!
I wonder if it's time for Spanish Flu to be renamed when you consider that the first recorded case of it was in Kansas City;-Quote:
Originally Posted by Nelsonca61
https://www.history.com/news/why-was...he-spanish-flu
Perhaps Trump could announce the change of name the next time he's talking about the "Chinese virus"?
Who knew that the B in BSE stood for Bovine instead of British even though the way that we cannibalised cows was the source of that epidemic?Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
Is your post intended for @Acosta?, he don;t post on here i think, you can find him on twitter, do you drop the chinese/indian in-front of curry ? I don't eat either!!, I wonder if doctors are now frightened to put German in-front of measles, as you well know, a country has been put in-front of many things in history but all of a sudden outrage.Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
Aren't there a few stages of this though Nelse?Quote:
Originally Posted by Nelsonca61
Shit authoritarian country with shit record of transparency starts having a novel disease.
Do you:
a) Say their President has this sorted and the one and a half dozen cases in our country will soon naturally go or
b) Take all necessary steps to eliminate the virus as quickly as possible short of calling it a hoax?
Cyril, I get the anger n'all that for lots of the stuff, that isn't an issue for me, but this particular one borders on pathetic, your handle suggests you used to travel away with Cyril :hehe: I never went away on his busses although remember them, when did we all become so offended over such triviality as using the word Chinese?, i don't get this anger on this subject, obviously i'm missing something or maybe just stressed out not knowing what is ahead, my job is good today but maybe on Monday i'll be getting a dear John and at my age i'm fked but still alive for which i'm thankful, stress levels are rising, my holiday is cancelled and i think its time for #walkaway for a couple of weeks to chill, I've got to a point where I don't even believe my own conspiracy on this as it sounds too far fetched. A couple of songs left to post on the music thread, got one beer left, Trust the plan :hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays
Q+
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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
Swine Flu also originated in the US.
Who is @Acosta?Quote:
Originally Posted by Nelsonca61
The Chinese apparently said their epidemic began when American soldiers passed it on to them, so I know it is not all one way, but it seems to me that, at this of all times, the two most powerful countries in the modern world should put petty matters like that aside and co-operate - they can return to the oh yes you did, oh no you didn't stuff when this is all over and done with.
The genius of Brett Terhune
(Note to Life On Mars it’s a spoof)
https://twitter.com/brentterhune/sta...926965248?s=21
Welcome to today's episode of 'How can he say this and still be President?'
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/51980731
How f**king dangerous is that?!Quote:
President Trump, at his daily press briefing, claimed that chloroquine had been approved for use in treating the coronavirus by the US Food and Drugs Administration (FDA). That is the body in charge of licensing medicines in America.
"We're going to be able to make that drug available almost immediately. And that's where the FDA has been so great. They've gone through the approval process - it's been approved."
To be clear, chloroquine has been approved to treat malaria and arthritis. However, the FDA has made it clear this is not the case for treating people with the Covid-19 coronavirus.
"There are no FDA-approved therapeutics or drugs to treat, cure or prevent Covid-19."
However, the FDA does say that studies are under way to see if chloroquine can be effective in the treatment of Covid-19. It also says it has been directed by Mr Trump to set up a large clinical trial to investigate the drug.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Q: What do you say to Americans who are scared <br><br>TRUMP: "I say that you're a terrible reporter, that's what I say." <br><br>Unreal. <a href="https://t.co/RJ1aJXJUUh">pic.twitter.com/RJ1aJXJUUh</a></p>— Pod Save America (@PodSaveAmerica) <a href="https://twitter.com/PodSaveAmerica/status/1241041962871881728?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 20, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
What a coward. Not even Boris 'Hides In The Fridge To Avoid Tough Questions' Johnson would be that callous.
Wooh! 200 pages. Haven't been in here for a while; are people still sticking up for the tangerine tart? That reporter gave him a pretty standard question - have you a calming message for the American people? "No, I don't do calming. I do antagonistic, divisive and egotistical. Haven't you been paying attention?"Quote:
Originally Posted by Heisenberg
I think the issue is with these modern type of respiratory virus they are killers and from China or AsiaQuote:
Originally Posted by lardy
SARS coronavirus (SARS-CoV) – virus identified in 2003. SARS-CoV is thought to be an animal virus from an as-yet-uncertain animal reservoir, perhaps bats, that spread to other animals (civet cats) and first infected humans in the Guangdong province of southern China in 2002.
Now this one .
A new disease can crop up anywhere. I don't blame Chinese people but I do blame China's leaders for their awful repression it practices , and poor health precautions around wild animal and the transfer of these virus to humans , in my view this virus its criminal negligence .
German measles didn't actually originate from Germany.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nelsonca61
Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
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13h
WE CANNOT LET THE CURE BE WORSE THAN THE PROBLEM ITSELF. AT THE END OF THE 15 DAY PERIOD, WE WILL MAKE A DECISION AS TO WHICH WAY WE WANT TO GO!
I interpret that as meaning economic collapse and social chaos could result in more deaths than what a virus might wreak.
I interpret this as if the economic numbers go south then so do my chances of re-election so I would rather play fast and loose with people's lives if it increases my chances of staying in power.Quote:
Originally Posted by Organ Morgan.
Wonder what our friends who get angry at politicising the virus will think of this.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Republicans had a deal until Nancy Pelosi rode into town from her extended vacation. The Democrats want the Virus to win? They are asking for things that have nothing to do with our great workers or companies. They want Open Borders & Green New Deal. Republicans shouldn’t agree!</p>— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) <a href="https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1242293340151873536?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 24, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
He is barking lolQuote:
Originally Posted by lardy
Spot on. The guy is simply displaying moments of insanity again (windmills that cause pollution comes to mind). I feel sorry for folk living in the USA if they really believe the pandemic will be over by Easter.Quote:
Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays
Was it windmills cause cancer? And forest fires can be stopped with rakes. And looking at the sun with the naked eye during an eclipse is a good idea.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gofer Blue
If he wasn't in charge of America during a global crisis, it would be funny.
In his press conference, he said that he wants the country back to normal by Easter because it would be beautiful. Each day, you have to further conclude that his motives are not what they should be for a president.
I see the "markets" have responded to Mr. Trumps proposed fiscal stimulus package. This once again exposes the crazy herd mentality of the stock markets. Wait a few weeks and see what happens then when tens of thousands (possibly hundreds of thousands) of Americans start dying like flies because Mr Trump has said this will all be over by Easter, so carry on as you are chaps and ignore this social distancing/self isolation nonsense. He probably regards the latter as a plot to destroy the American economy (as is his argument against measures to reduce CO2). Frightening. Who would want to live in New York now?Quote:
Originally Posted by lardy
Just did the maths - assume a fatality rate of just 1%. With a population of 327 million people that's 3.27 million potential deaths. Wow. Maybe that won't matter to Trump because the majority will be old timers who are no longer economically active?
Whatever the outcome you have to give Fauci credit for speaking truth to power. If Trump ploughs ahead with words like this in his ears then even he might have overstretched himself.Quote:
Originally Posted by lardy
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcar...s-the-timeline
How long did that take you? :hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by Gofer Blue
Typical politician speak, trying to spark the markets and investors , I guess if he said the markets will totally collapse at Easter the run on the dollar would be huge .Quote:
Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays
Globally 500k deaths out of 7.8 billion people .Quote:
Originally Posted by Gofer Blue
I truly believe that if Trump, or any other President in history, said the markets will totally collapse by Easter, that there will be a massive impact on stocks. Not sure about the diving dollar as lots of your mates think devaluation is the way out of this. What currency are they all running to?Quote:
Originally Posted by life on mars
I bow to your wise proclamations as always.
Trump was given a pandemic handover when he took over the job. He wasn't much interested and most of his team from then is long gone. So that should leave him the simple job of just listening to the experts and doing what they say, and yet he's doing his best to undermine them.Quote:
Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays
Have to wonder what his motivation is, as public safety doesn't seem to be it.
Thanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays
https://theweek.com/articles/904958/...al-surging-why
Interesting article and IMO quite an accurate one.
That was well worth a read.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gofer Blue
The analysis seems to be right - if very depressing - but I hope the 'solution' isn't the only option left.
Idealism is all fine and dandy until reality rears it's ugly head.Quote:
Originally Posted by jon1959
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNflR2Ia7Hc