I very much doubt it. It was said there were not many critical care beds a couple of daysQuote:
Originally Posted by Vindec
ago with the main issue being not enough staff to manage the beds. So many off isolating etc.
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I very much doubt it. It was said there were not many critical care beds a couple of daysQuote:
Originally Posted by Vindec
ago with the main issue being not enough staff to manage the beds. So many off isolating etc.
From the Times’ Science Editor today: “There are two errors you can make in a pandemic. The first is to overact on the basis of uncertain evidence. The second is to wait for the best evidence, make a decision, and find out it’s too late.Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
It is always better to make the first mistake than the second because if this mutation really does what scientists fear, then the situation is desperate.”
Think there is 60 in the Heath, with at least 20 free last weekQuote:
Originally Posted by Hilts
Staff illness is a real problem. In one hospital near me (in South West England) there are 920 staff on the sick. That is why NHS workers should have been in the top priority for receiving the vaccine. My son is in the second tranche in England but am unsure whether the English arrangements apply in Wales.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Bloop
Did they ever have enough staff and im talking throughout the UK to staff these Nightingale Hospitals. Looked a brilliant idea and got up really quickly.
With all these staff shortages how did they expect all these hospitals to be staffed if all the beds were needed.
Theyve only enough staff to cover 41 of themQuote:
Originally Posted by goats
They can’t. Think this is why they are vaccinating front line nurses etc first now. They haven’t even started on general public yet I thinkQuote:
Originally Posted by Hilts
I think they have started on care home residents and care home staff.Quote:
Originally Posted by goats
My daughter can get one if she goes to the centre in Splott but she doesn't want to take the chance ( given than theyds 9 staff who tested positive earlier in the month.
She will wait until they come round to the home.
Touch wood the nursing home she works with have been really strict and have had very few positive tests with either staff or visitors
Nothing to do with politics - it wouldn't matter who was 'in charge', but I heard and read this earlier :
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-55403944
Isn't it the elected Government to make/announce decisions like this, not doctors ?
So at a Downing Street briefing, he should not answer any questions because he's not in the government.Quote:
Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish
Right.
Perhaps Vallance has decided to bring a bit of realism to the situation in contrast to Bungle who has continuously masked over any issues with a joke and wishful thinking.Quote:
Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish
Bungle is now saying "we will have a very different in Easter..."
Didnt he say that before last Easter?
Perhaps he means we'll have more dead people?
He hasn't announced a decision, he has given a qualified statement.Quote:
Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish
He was asked in yesterday’s briefing why he keeps on over promising and under delivering. As it creates confusion and undermines public confidence. His reply was that things will look very different at Easter.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jordi Culé
Probably because he knows the Oxford vaccine is about to get approved and then mass roll out can begin without the logistical nightmare of the current one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Baloo
If so, makes you wonder why he told us in March that Covid-19 will be "sent packing in 12 weeks."Quote:
Originally Posted by goats
In May, that the antibody virus will be "a game changer."
September was the month everything would be normal at Christmas due to 'Moonshot'.
If he's reading briefing notes now, it'll make a refreshing change.
I got him down as a narcissist who likes the sound of his own voice.
He's right, but it might be Easter 2022.Quote:
Originally Posted by Baloo
My point was that wasn’t the question. But tbh I’ve given up hope of receiving a considered and thoughtful reply from him during these briefings. He says his bit then tries to get through the rest unscathed by offering mostly disingenuous, irrelevant and often incoherent replies.Quote:
Originally Posted by goats
This just appeared on my Twitter feed.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">BREAKING: Wales is reporting the highest number of new covid cases, per capita, in the world. <br><br>Chart via <a href="https://twitter.com/FT?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@FT</a> <a href="https://t.co/EDBaCQTHuN">pic.twitter.com/EDBaCQTHuN</a></p>— Politics For All (@PoliticsForAlI) <a href="https://twitter.com/PoliticsForAlI/status/1341379934934196231?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 22, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Sent packing in 12 weeks? Didn’t see that and his buddy, whitty, wouldn’t have sanctioned that. Normally the voice of doom but a realist at least so when he says something I tend to believe him. Often says covid will be around for years now but we will soon suppress it like the flu and other things we need a jab for.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jordi Culé
http://www.theguardian.com/world/202...us-in-12-weeksQuote:
Originally Posted by goats
Not surprisingly, look at the areas where we have the biggest issues. My views on Drakeford have actually completely changed, what a job, almost impossible.Quote:
Originally Posted by Baloo
You meant bo jo did you?I thought you meant Vallance? Bo would say anything, he’s a politician. He was almost right mind, we did kick it into touch by June, we just let it come back again. :facepalm: We should have closed our borders for non essential travel I think.Quote:
Originally Posted by Baloo
Think you’re letting him off the hook rather easy there.Quote:
Originally Posted by goats
Here’s another politician. Sweden’s PM admits the country got its coronavirus strategy wrong: https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.b...-2020-12%3famp
When the UK needed a PM who was responsible, empathetic and accountable, we got a flip flopping, narcissist who resembles a Jim Davidson tribute act.Quote:
Originally Posted by Baloo
Probably the same all over the country.
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/w...efore-19504652
Plus he gave jobs to his pro brexit loony pals.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jordi Culé
Completely out of their depth.
I had a click and collect which my wife booked about 2 months so went straight in. Once in you can then pick up whatever else you want.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hilts
Newport rd branch was really quiet inside, not enough people to form a queue at the tils even. About 40 people queuing up outside at 10am, felt for them as once in people are taking ages....
Still really stupid though - a lady being interviewed said she got there 5:30, queued for ages and then walked over to Tesco’s and wandered straight in :facepalm:Quote:
Originally Posted by Hilts
Would have thought the 11,000 added on in one day would have had an effect on something like that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Baloo
OK, cheers.Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
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Creation of complex rules (with # of people, households, exceptions) varying by tiers has created a perverse system where people look for loopholes. Instead, focus on why this virus is risky, what we can all do to avoid getting it & passing it on & the underlying science.
Simply: transmits in indoor, poorly ventilated & crowded settings. Don't go into other people's homes. Keep distance, meet outside, & err on the side of caution. While older/vulnerable more at risk of dying, younger people can get seriously ill. Russian roulette with health.
https://twitter.com/devisridhar/stat...08604728582144
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Viruses evolve faster in lazy countries that let them run rampant.
One variant (B.1.1.7) in the UK has acquired 8 mutations in a gene encoding the spike protein -- and that may help it spread faster.
Excellent piece: https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020...emains-unclear
https://twitter.com/amymaxmen/status...51133058375681
No one is going to stop anyone acting as they wish over Christmas but people living in Manchester are being told if they've been in Wales they should self-isolate for 10 days and act as if they have the virus. Regardless of what people think about the politicians, or the ex-rugby players giving their "expertise", Wales is absolutely fecked if people continue to act like covid doesn't exist or doesn't need attention.
Dont forget that all the kids who finished school early should be isolating for 10 days to reduce the risks to their elderly relatives on Christmas day. That seems to have been forgotten about, and judging by the family groups my wife saw in the supermarket at the weekend, forgotten by the kids and their parents aswell.Quote:
Originally Posted by surge
Wasnt this 11k spike down go a backlog of test data over a longer period of time, due to some computer glitch ??Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
And are we testing more effectively now than before?
How come India is so low down on the chart? With a population density of 1080 per sq.mile (cf UK with 725) what are they doing differently?Quote:
Originally Posted by Baloo
I called into the M&S on Queen Street on my way home from work at around 4:00pm. There was a small queue to get into the food hall as numbers were being carefully monitored, but I was in the queue for two minutes tops. There were a few more people inside than I'd anticipated, but it wasn't too bad at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hilts
What struck me was just how much food is going to go to waste. The shelves were very well stocked with everything, but the expiry dates on most items weren't far away. I guess they'd bought lots of stock in anticipation of being busy in the lead-up to Christmas, but the latest lockdown (if it can be described as such) has put paid to that.
There must be loads of food shops in towns and city centres all over Wales that are in similar situations right now. So much food is going to have to be binned due to the closures of the shops classified as non-essential.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-55419564
Nicola Sturgeon broke Covid rules at funeral
I think large food stores often have surplus stock redistribution schemes with local charities these days. But no idea if these are up and running in the current climate.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman
Tier 1 moving to 2 and more in Tier 4 in England.
Im glad Drakeford put us all in Tier 4.
May not be popular where its lower but this is spreading fast
The figures are getting worse nationwide and rising exponentially. The whole country should be in tier4 or even full lockdown and Xmas should be forgotten about. Drakeford definitely did the right thing but he must have done that in light of the fact the situation in Wales is worse than anywhere else in the UK.
The third strain of the virus originating in South Africa is yet another potential setback and even more reason for additional stringent restrictions.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-55410349
Ooooh has our Tony got a point.
Ex-Prime Minister Tony Blair is urging the government to give as many people as possible an initial dose of a Covid vaccine - rather than preserving stocks so there is enough for second jabs.