Uncanny ability to melt away when some character required. The batters who you rely on can’t help finding any fielders with no one else around them within a mile, and today’s tail could barely go through the motions
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Uncanny ability to melt away when some character required. The batters who you rely on can’t help finding any fielders with no one else around them within a mile, and today’s tail could barely go through the motions
Horton has been really poor, not just with the bat but with the gloves too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pearcey3
Longer term, I'd say Smale is in pole position to take over when Cooke eventually stops playing.
It certainly is. Pathetic end to the season. 3 consecutive defeats. All quite easily. After some really impressive wins. So annoying. But as you say classic glammy!Quote:
Originally Posted by Pearcey3
Yes agree, our record in T20 is quite appalling!Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord Worcester
A quick glance at wiki shows we haven't qualified for the quarters since 2017. The worst run of all the counties.
I'm still hurting after that awful bowling display on Friday night. let's face it there's not much talent in that squad compared to other sides and nobody leading by example. Carlson has been poor of late and Horton not worthy of selection. the business model doesn't permit any star performers and our expectations should perhaps reflect that.
I'd agree with that but you're the one who's always running the team down on here. We won at Taunton and thrashed Kent but there wasn't a peep out of you, then a freakish stand took the game away from us at Hampshire and you're straight on here saying how crap we are. I know you care but it's an odd way of showing it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Taffy Blue in Berkshire
What's been frustrating this time round is that it feels like we're not that far off it. Key players have lost form (Cooke and Carlson) or been injured (Crane and Kerr) and games have been thrown away due to a lack of belief, experience, game management or whatever but we're still not out of it. I'm sure every team can look back at losses and think 'if only' but we've had a few of those. Would we have lost Friday's game with Timm and Crane playing (and without Mr Magoo making the call on Tom Curran's run out)? Surely not.
Today was poor though. Some muddled thinking all round, nine overs of spin going at ten an over but Douthwaite didn't get to bowl his four and the shot selection left a lot to be desired too, as Dave Blue said. It's a shame because there are positives to be taken (Leonard was outstanding again today) and the players look to be giving everything but it seems like we'll come up short again.
point taken and Leonard, Tribe, Gorvin, Ingram have impressed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Loramski
I watch Glammy a lot online (red ball and white ball) and my first game at the old Arms Park was in the 60's. I remember seeing 2 Championship wins, old John Player league etc. etc.
What is so frustrating is the inconsistency and you have a great bowling display at Taunton and that fiasco at the Oval on Friday night which I witnessed first hand. The future is clearly bringing through young players but having a balanced team with experienced campaigners. The batsman did very well at the Oval in the main but were let down by very poor bowling. Yesterday the batting missed a getable total at home.
We don't know why Northeast isn't in the T20 squad but he did well in this format last year.
This one is over now and you hope that the success in the 4 day game continues.
The one day cup?
I don't envy the financial team trying to balance the books down there and like football results and performances bring the crowds in.
The coaching team however need to explain a lot!
I don't want to write our T20 obituary too early, because we could still qualify. We've done some good things this year, I like the decision to put Kellaway at 3 playing attacking cricket, it shows good intent. But as the games progress and your championship opener in Tribe is scoring runs for fun, and Kellaway isn't quite firing then surely it becomes obvious that you move tribe in to open and drop Carlson to 3.
Douthwaite has looked great with the bat this year, but can't get higher than 8. Ingram scoring for fun at 4, so gets dropped to 5 to fit Horton in. It's just become muddled, dare I say it's almost become a parody of what was trying to be achieved at first.
I was critical of Carlson's decision to bowl Kellaway for that over against Somerset. It seemed equally stupid not to give him at least an over against Surrey when out seamers were getting battered. Carlson's individual fielding has also plumbed the depths in recent games.
We've done a lot right, as evidenced by the fact we were in top 2 contention until 3/4 of the way through game 12 of 14. Just a shame a bit of sloppiness seems to be leading to the wheels falling off at the end.
Kellaway and Crane both been selected for Welsh Fire.
Possible county championship and T20 shake-up proposed:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/...s/crk6vrm4x4jo
Surprise, surprise, they want yet another reduction in the amount of red ball cricket played, so I'm against it straight away.Quote:
Originally Posted by Undercoverinwurzelland
I'm going to sound like the "things were better in my day" merchant I was determined not to become when I was young here, but, in this case, I don't mind because things were better in my youth when sides played twenty odd three day County Championship games, there were two knockout one day cups and a limited overs league on Sundays. There was much less specialisation in those days and, with smaller squads at counties, there were plenty of players who would be included in the team, if fit, for every competitive game a county played across the four competitions in.a season - the best county bowlers sent down far more overs than today's players do as well.
Compare all of that to today where it's impossible for anybody to play a full season in all four competitions because two of them take place at the same time. Furthermore, with separate red and white ball contracts often on offer, players get plenty of chances to recharge their batteries unless they become one of those white ball cricketers who spend their year gadding about the planet lining their pockets while playing for about five different sides.
So, as someone who is usually on the sife of the "workers", I have little sympathy with modern day complaints that cricketers play too much (even when their case is being made by as decent a bloke as James Harris).
Glamorgan look like wrapping up a good win. Unfortunately it won't be enough, with Kent close to a win against Essex.
And so we end up 5th, with a pile of what ifs and maybes! Not the 1st time. Some really good wins and performances, mingled in with some horrible defeats and utter dross. Maybe the inevitability of t20, certainly an inevitability of glammy playing t20!
Not bad overall, 7 and 7 and some positive moments. Unfortunately it's the 2 Surrey games that are the only 2 that could be described as us really throwing it away. In massive positions in both games to really stuff them, but a poor chase of 149, followed by not being able to defend 222. In fact Glamorgan throwing away games against Surrey seems to be a recurring theme season after season.
It’s very frustrating. Even last Sundays game was very winnable. Even a no result would have got us through on a loss day.Quote:
Originally Posted by chrisp_1927
Quite glad I couldn't make it down tonight. I'd have had to have given that Cornwell a bit of stick 🤣. I bloody knew that ball was going to end up costing us!Quote:
Originally Posted by chrisp_1927
At the end of the power play I thought we were cruising it!Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave Blue
That Gloucestershire game killed us and so a team we murdered just a fortnight earlier, Kent, qualified at our expense. Sadly, it looked like a bit of a bottle job in that vital game that we should have won and so I can’t really say we were unlucky. Good win last night though on pitch which looked a real beauty while Carlson and Smale were batting on it, but never did after that.
That Gloucestershire game killed us and so a team we murdered just a fortnight earlier, Kent, qualified at our expense. Sadly, it looked like a bit of a bottle job in that vital game that we should have won and so I can’t really say we were unlucky. Good win last night though on pitch which looked a real beauty while Carlson and Smale were batting on it, but never did after that.
I agree the Surrey games were the only two we threw away but there were a couple of others where one stand cost us. We bowled pretty well in the powerplay overs on the whole but we let Sussex pile up 72 in their game here and we were chasing the game from then on. In the Hampshire game we got Vince early and had them at 90-3 after nearly 12 overs but the next two went berserk and put on 114 in eight overs. Once we lost momentum, batting or bowling, it took us too long to get back on track at times.Quote:
Originally Posted by chrisp_1927
Chasing was a problem overall. We batted second eight times and only won three (two of them were chasing 118 and 124) but we won four out of six batting first and got 222 in a game we lost. Another problem for me was how weak the tail was. There was talk of batting down to 11 but Douthwaite was the last real threat throughout. I guess Kerr would've helped out in that department so there was some bad luck there.
Positives too though, as you say. Leonard was excellent, Tribe and Kellaway are making progress and while Horton struggled, hopefully he'll learn from the experience. Plenty of others contributed at some point. We just needed a bit more consistency, both collectively and individually.
Back to the Championship now, Kent here on Tuesday.
Bottom of the table Kent. What a great opportunity to bounce back after what must have been a real disappointment for the squad for the t20 campaign. Will douthwaite get a chance in the 4-day game. I’d like to see it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Loramski
An unexpected overseas signing who’ll be available for tomorrow’s game.
https://x.com/glamcricket/status/194...326106294?s=61
Positive news for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
I agree, he didn’t have a great start for us and I would have dropped him at one stage, but he was giving our attack a cutting edge by the time he left.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord Worcester
Agree with that. Hopefully he picks up where he left off and doesn't need three or four matches to get going again.Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
Northeast not playing this week as he's on paternity leave - are we likely to see Billy Root for the first time this season?
Elsewhere, I see that Dan Douthwaite has been picked to play for the counties select XI in a one-day series against Pakistan A - good for him. Bit of a mental day for the second XI yesterday as well; got a first innings score of 232 after being 22-6 at one point!
Who got those runs?Quote:
Originally Posted by FormerlyJohnnyBreadhead
Won the toss and bowled. Earlyish wicket for fernando. No gorvin - got to be considered unlucky, and no crane. If you add northeast to that and a ‘got to be close now’ douthwaite, it’s become quite a competitive squad.
Henry Hurle had 104 not out, Tom Norton had 62, and McIlroy 29. Nobody else got into double figures.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord Worcester
Sounds like a bit of a wild one as Kent were 127-3, and then got bowled out for 189. Mason Crane got 5-22.
Ed Bevan mentioned this morning that Kellaway has been training with the England Lions this week. Says he's likely to tour with them in the winter.
Kellaway’ s just taken a wicket, Kent 146-3.Quote:
Originally Posted by FormerlyJohnnyBreadhead
Trying to think of the last Glamorgan player to make an England senior or Lions squad - Alex Wharf?
Didn't James Harrs play for the Lions or had he already moved to Middlesex?Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
I may be wrong, but I think his England call ups were with Middlesex.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hot Shot Hamish.
Couple more Kent wickets fallen, 150-5.
Make that 150-7.
Kent collapse from 148-3 to 155 all out with Joe Denly not coming back to bat after retiring hurt - three wickets each for Van Der Gugten and Harris.
According to ESPN James Harris toured the West Indies with the Lions in 2011 whilst he was a Glamorgan player. He went to Middlesex a year later.
During 1 of the 3 tests so far this summer, the bbc live text put a question out for best uncapped player playing county cricket. There were quite a few positive responses for kellaway and by no means were they all from glammy fans.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Bloop
Excellent start to the game.Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
Just switched the radio on for a few seconds and the England women’s team (that country’s worst sporting team?) have just 25 balls in the start of innings power play and 24 of them were dot balls :facepalm:
Okay, so it’s fifteen years since we’ve had any senior players deemed good enough for England at any level. Still think Carlson should have had a lions/Development team tour somewhere along the way.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Bloop
Ingram out off the last ball before lunch to spoil it being a completely dominant morning for Glamorgan - 250-5, Ingram out for 87, Kellaway 85 not out.