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Giving up the settlements in West Bank could be a positive move that should be recognised , 150 billion to Iran feels wrong ,anyone agreeing anything in that region is welcome.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
What happened to the WW3 propaganda before Trumps election or did I imagine that rhetoric?
Cheers mate, I just won a £20 bet :thumbup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
The Israel-UAE deal (brokered by the Trump administration) does not involve 'giving up' illegal Israeli settlements on the West Bank, and Netanyahu denied that it even involved an end to Israel's annexation plans - just a day after the 'deal' was announced.Quote:
Originally Posted by life on mars
Just what do you think the deal is about?
It is about a PR coup for Netanyahu. It is a further (probably final) nail in the coffin of the Two State Solution (and makes a One State Solution even less likely). It promotes the UAE to 'most favoured' partner status (Saudi Arabia is becoming more embarrassing). It gives the USA further leverage against Iran (and Turkey). It leaves the Palestinians with yet another betrayal to come to terms with - after three generations of betrayals. 'Normalisation of relations' means normalisation of apartheid, war crimes and land seizure.
I won a £50 bet that you would be on here pretending to know more than Kushner does :thumbup:Quote:
Originally Posted by jon1959
Who's this mug you and Jon keep winning money off?Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
you believe anything Kushner says ? serious questionQuote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
24 hour countdown :flare:
He is one of the lead US negotiators, if he is lying there are diplomats from many Middle East countries who could alert us to these lies, so perhaps you could point out a few of these individuals who know that he willingly lied?Quote:
Originally Posted by ToTaL ITK
It's Gluey's secret friend, but because s/he doesn't exist anyone can make imaginary bets.Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
S/he is more credible than most of the Trump fan-boy's sources! :thumbup:
https://www.needtoimpeach.com/corrup...al-disclosure/Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
He is just as useless as trump.
I thought we were discussing the latest developments in the Middle East?Quote:
Originally Posted by ToTaL ITK
If you want to discuss finances, Mueller went through the Trump family's finances with a fine tooth comb and he didn't find any evidence of corruption. Do you have any further details about this lawsuit and how it's progressing?
https://www.usnews.com/news/politics...rumps-financesQuote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
More bull
Meanwhile the Republican-led Senate Intelligence Committee has produced its fifth and final volume of its report into Russian interference in the 2016 election and their influence on the Trump campaign. Probably a bunch of deep state RINOs though.
Among the probe's newest revelations is that Konstantin V. Kilimnik, an associate of Manafort's, was a “Russian intelligence officer.” Manafort's contacts also posed a “grave counterintelligence threat,” according to the report.
"Manafort hired and worked increasingly closely with a Russian national, Konstantin
Kilimnik. Kilimnik is a Russian intelligence officer," reads the report.
The Senate committee said it also obtained information that suggested Kilimnik was possibly connected to the Russian intelligence service's 2016 hack and leak operation.
"Manafort worked with Kilimnik starting in 2016 on narratives that sought to undermine evidence that Russia interfered in the 2016 U.S. election," the report added.
https://thehill.com/policy/national-...ence-detailing
tick tock. Hope he ignores the desperate pleas from Team Durham and let's loose the Big Ugly. Thoughts and prayers Sundance.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
Yep the report was bull, well done for finally admitting it, but they really did go through everything and found nothing.Quote:
Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays
So you will have the evidence that they went through the Trump Family finances with a fine tooth comb to hand rather than bluster then?Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
Still I understand Cyrus Vance is pretty good at scraping scalps for nits..
The fact that he is running for re-election should tell you everything you need to know :biggrin:Quote:
Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays
Here is a simple question that hopefully a PhD mind like yours can answer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
Vance, the Manhattan DA has won a Grand Jury subpoena seeking eight years of Trump's personal and corporate tax records. Trump's lawyers are fighting toot and nail via appeals courts to stop this happening.
My question to you, which I am sure you can answer is Why are they still seeking these documents and Trump fighting it if Mueller has gone through them with a fine tooth comb and found nothing ?(of which you have provided not a scintilla of evidence to support).
It's all down to frozen chickensQuote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
What's that coming over the hill, is it an election?Quote:
Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays
It's time to move to WuhanQuote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">VIDEO: 🇨🇳Crowds packed out a water park over the weekend in the central Chinese city of <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Wuhan?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Wuhan</a>, where the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/coronavirus?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#cor onavirus</a> first emerged late last year, keen to party as the city edges back to normal life <a href="https://t.co/sIrvzSFdin">pic.twitter.com/sIrvzSFdin</a></p>— AFP news agency (@AFP) <a href="https://twitter.com/AFP/status/1295556905570414593?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 18, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
There was no election on the horizon when investigators started their action. Trump, his lawyers and his puppies in the DoJ have fought requests for the records all the way through every court up to the Supreme Court, who sided with Vance. He is now fighting all the way back down to play down the clock. Even though a sitting President can't be prosecuted.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
I know The Lone Gunman called you thick as mince, or something similar but whenever you post your own thoughts rather than just cut and paste someone else's I do wonder whether he has a point.
Says the bloke who pedalled the Steele dossier, Russia collusion, obstruction of justice and impeachment hoaxes :hehe: :biggrin: :hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays
Person Man Woman Camera TVQuote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
An interesting little thread from your :flare: nemesis, it looks like he had to educate the Durham investigative team when he met with them earlier today. Are you still certain that he is just a clueless nobody who runs a random blog on the internet?Quote:
Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays
https://twitter.com/TheLastRefuge2/s...22788985524225
You read that into his incoherent ramblings. Well done you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
Even some of his staunchest disciples are abandoning him and he is being ridiculed by other right wing twitter sites but I am sure you will stick to the end.
Example
So all this build up and all we get is some tweets? Great.
You have to hope that is true, otherwise he will have made you look like an absolute idiot :biggrin:Quote:
Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays
I actually get my info from other sources, but I am sure there are some elements of collaboration and verification between the serious investigators regarding the bigger picture.
Nice try to spread your bet given the bullets your boy is getting. If your other sources were the ones you based your assertions that Mueller went through Trump's financial records with a fine tooth comb and gave a clean bill of health and that there are things called verified and unverified postal ballots then I would be a bit circumspect about them as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
They aleady have all the info, real or manufactured, the trouble is they have to be careful how they legitimise the information that they are not supposed have or know about.Quote:
Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays
Bipartisan intelligence panel says that Russian who worked on Trump’s 2016 bid was career spy, amid a stunning range of contacts.
A report by the Senate intelligence committee provides a treasure trove of new details about Donald Trump’s relationship with Moscow, and says that a Russian national who worked closely with Trump’s presidential campaign in 2016 was a career intelligence officer.
The bipartisan report runs to nearly 1,000 pages and goes further than last year’s investigation into Russian election interference by special prosecutor Robert Mueller. It lays out a stunning web of contacts between Trump, his top election aides and Russian government officials, in the months leading up to the 2016 election.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...ussia-campaign
:yikes:
The bloke you have spent the last couple of years ridiculing is now claiming to have given Durham's lead investigator the fully assembled puzzle :sherlock:Quote:
Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays
https://theconservativetreehouse.com...ccurate-point/
Did Gluey ever answer this question? Seems to me he didn't.Quote:
Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays
He says he has produced a fully assembled puzzle? What's it like, have you seen it. I understand from his blogs that he has been touting it around Washington and elsewhere for a few weeks now and in his own admission the puzzle needs to be explained by someone who understands the puzzle for it to make sense. Still now he has given it to all his selected media outlets it's only a matter of time before they explain what it means.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
Previously he said if no-one took him seriously he would name Durham's Lead Investigator who he said he met yesterday.The investigation last week he said was a "Head Fake". I presume the Investigator did not take him seriously because he named him straight after though the reasoning for doing so changed:
The purpose behind briefing Durham’s lead investigator William Aldenberg was essentially to provide an understanding of what we the people already know. The purpose behind releasing the investigator name is to cut through the chaff and countermeasures and give face to the unit holding the precarious responsibility of sunlight.
Funnily enough it turns out that old William is catnip for conspiracists given that he has identified as a first responder to the Sandy Hook school massacre (you might have a different name for it) and one of the people who has taken legal action against Alex Jones for his false flag claims.
What if people thought the year old Durham investigation was only likely to produce a rap on the knuckles for a lawyer previously identified for prosecution in the Horowitz IG report in December and a more biased set of conclusions than Horowitz produced.
Wouldn't it be great if its credibility was undermined by outing the Lead Investigator as some kind of untrustworthy Social Justice Warrior who refused to, or was incapable of unlocking the puzzle and sending the whole cabal to Gitmo, rather than the more uncomfortable truth for those peddling these lines for 3 years......that there was nothing prosecutable to be found.
Still those who struggle with independent and rational thought still need their heroes to guide them I suppose :flare:
Bob, I think that as soon as he gets outside his comfort zone of almost completely quoting the work of others to show how ITK he is and starts thinking for himself then it usually ends up like this. You only need to reference the Coronavirus quote wall to support that.Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/18/u...ce-report.html
face egg someones
Someone else who Trump can pardon if he wins in November?
https://www.axios.com/steve-bannon-c...558c9f777.html
To be taken seriously you are going to have to explain the leaked Carter Page FISA warrant application that originated from the Senate intel committee, because nobody has provided a satisfactory explanation about that. Posting random news links alongside sarcastic comments is just not good enough, as it makes you come across as somebody who doesn't know what they are talking about.Quote:
Originally Posted by ToTaL ITK
i cant explain that, i'm not involved in it. Trump had dealings with the Russians and it's been reported by a republican led committee.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
It's all over the news.
Well, until somebody can come up with an adequate explanation, the role of the committee in the plot to overthrow the Trump administration.will remain a matter of speculation.Quote:
Originally Posted by ToTaL ITK
BTW the republican chairman of the committee recently stood down due an ongoing investigation into allegations of insider trading.