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Re: Aeroplane Over The Etihad
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Originally Posted by
A Quiet Monkfish
You always have to bring party politics into every single thread/post. I couldn't give a **** who's 'running the country'. They're all useless and I'll just carry on getting on with my life and my family as I have done for six decades..
In fairness that was my fault.
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Re: Aeroplane Over The Etihad
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Originally Posted by
A Quiet Monkfish
You always have to bring party politics into every single thread/post. I couldn't give a **** who's 'running the country'. They're all useless and I'll just carry on getting on with my life and my family as I have done for six decades..
Well you say that but you regularly post political points and most of them ever firmly towards the right
Your suggestion it's all about getting on with life and family is what thatcher said .....there is no such thing as society
I most certainly give a **** about who is running the country , we have an inept country in charge of running the country at the moment who said black people have watermelon smiles , a deeply offensive racist term used in the deep south
You dont care who is running the country as long as you are doing ok
I understand
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Re: Aeroplane Over The Etihad
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Originally Posted by
cyril evans awaydays
I am not sure that webpage even in your summarised format turns BLM into Anarcho-Communists. It is an assault on the English Language though. BLM would do well to spend a little bit of those donations on someone who can write and draw people in rather than that pseudo-intellectual claptrap.
Not even the point about “disrupting The Western-prescribed Nuclear family”?
Everything else is certainly intersectional and the rise in ID politics over the last few years has created a nasty partisan split in society and pushed a lot of people further to the right.
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Re: Aeroplane Over The Etihad
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Originally Posted by
Vindec
What have marches got to do with anything? Most get hijacked by either the hard right or extreme left which at best dilute the message. Perhaps in your Utopian world you don't have to think about how government finances are organised and that the State must pay for everything. Wouldn't it be great if child poverty, and all the other things you mention could be reformed but that is unrealistic unfortunately ( aside from the BLM situation) given the state of government finances. It's very easy to protest and go on marches without thinking about how these things are to be funded. Nobody would disagree with the aspirations you have highlighted but where is the money to come from; increased taxation perhaps but that introduces a new set of problems such as higher unemployment. Tell me which government left or right who can afford to pay for the Utopian Society you believe would or even could exist under Labour?
Straight out of the conservative party manifesto that one
What do marches about child poverty , poor wages and racism achieve ?
Well actually quite a lot
Direct action is often the last recourse
Emily pankhurst got votes for women after throwing herself under a horse , that was a worthy protest I think
And of course when the racist far right english defence league came to cardiff loads of people marched against them and they havnt been seen since
As for government spending taxation is going to have to rise now more than ever before or we will have riots far bigger than those associated with political protests
If the tories dont do it then more fool them
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Re: Aeroplane Over The Etihad
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Originally Posted by
Wash DC Blue
Not even the point about “disrupting The Western-prescribed Nuclear family”?
Everything else is certainly intersectional and the rise in ID politics over the last few years has created a nasty partisan split in society and pushed a lot of people further to the right.
The right has been on the march for years in america and europe
It needs to be met head on
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Re: Aeroplane Over The Etihad
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
In america the bible bashing right wing lunatics have labelled black lives matters commies
And as is usual the right wing over here are following them
You are off your chops with this.
Like most of your posts, you offer zero nuance and spout it in such a “know it all” way.
It reminds me of “Rik” from the Young Ones.
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Re: Aeroplane Over The Etihad
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
The right has been on the march for years in america and europe
It needs to be met head on
Right on
Smash the State Comrade!!
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Re: Aeroplane Over The Etihad
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Originally Posted by
Wash DC Blue
You are off your chops with this.
Like most of your posts, you offer zero nuance and spout it in such a “know it all” way.
It reminds me of “Rik” from the Young Ones.
So you dont think that the gun toting bible belt Republicans think people supporting the black lives matter protest are commies and pinkos ?
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Re: Aeroplane Over The Etihad
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Originally Posted by
Wash DC Blue
Right on
Smash the State Comrade!!
Or alternatively sit on your arse
If the far right march again in cardiff I will be there protesting against them
If you , living in washington DC in as you have said is a nice area hear that the far right goon squad are marching spouting their message , what are you going to do ?
Join up with your black friends and confront them or post on here ?
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Re: Aeroplane Over The Etihad
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
So you dont think that the gun toting bible belt Republicans think people supporting the black lives matter protest are commies and pinkos ?
You just pick the lowest common denominator and castigate swathes of Middle America in one swoop.
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Re: Aeroplane Over The Etihad
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
Or alternatively sit on your arse
If the far right march again in cardiff I will be there protesting against them
If you , living in washington DC in as you have said is a nice area hear that the far right goon squad are marching spouting their message , what are you going to do ?
Join up with your black friends and confront them or post on here ?
So nothing to do with Antifa?
I’ve been invited to join marches by local organizers and I would go...it’s just not safe though.
In the last week joined the call to boycott a prominent local business because of the owners blatant racism and I have signed a position to remove the long time treasure of the county I live in for tasteless remarks about Aunt Jemima.
Not much I know compared to many.
When it’s safe to do so, I will certainly be marching and protesting for Black Lives regardless of whatever vehicle is driving it.
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Re: Aeroplane Over The Etihad
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Originally Posted by
Wash DC Blue
Not even the point about “disrupting The Western-prescribed Nuclear family”?
Everything else is certainly intersectional and the rise in ID politics over the last few years has created a nasty partisan split in society and pushed a lot of people further to the right.
The full quote was" We disrupt the Western-prescribed nuclear family structure requirement by supporting each other as extended families and “villages” that collectively care for one another, especially our children, to the degree that mothers, parents, and children are comfortable".
As a rallying call to the barricades it seems to fall some way short of the Anarcho-Communism definition of a political philosophy and anarchist school of thought which advocates the abolition of the state, capitalism, wage labour and private property (while retaining respect for personal property, along with collectively-owned items, goods and services) in favor of common ownership of the means of production.
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Re: Aeroplane Over The Etihad
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
Straight out of the conservative party manifesto that one
What do marches about child poverty , poor wages and racism achieve ?
Well actually quite a lot
Direct action is often the last recourse
Emily pankhurst got votes for women after throwing herself under a horse , that was a worthy protest I think
And of course when the racist far right english defence league came to cardiff loads of people marched against them and they havnt been seen since
As for government spending taxation is going to have to rise now more than ever before or we will have riots far bigger than those associated with political protests
If the tories dont do it then more fool them
No doubt you will join the rioters/marchers when tax rises. I must admit that you were not nearly so vociferous during the anti semite accusations against the Labour Party as you are supporting the BLM movement. As an aside I see Rebecca Long Bailey has been sacked this afternoon for an implied anti semite tweet and there have been objections to the sackings by some Labour MPs and supporters. I note you didn't reply to my question asking which government can afford to pay for the Utopian Society you believe is possible. You can march as much of you like but at some point a sense of realism has to exist.
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Originally Posted by
Dorcus
I doubt it but why didn't that Burnley tosser think about displaying that rather than his racist garbage?
What was racist about the banner display? white lives matter , black lives matter is exactly the same..
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Re: Aeroplane Over The Etihad
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Originally Posted by
stan butler
What was racist about the banner display? white lives matter , black lives matter is exactly the same..
The police said they have 'looked into' the incident and can see no reason for any criminal action.
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Re: Aeroplane Over The Etihad
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
Straight out of the conservative party manifesto that one
What do marches about child poverty , poor wages and racism achieve ?
Well actually quite a lot
Direct action is often the last recourse
Emily pankhurst got votes for women after throwing herself under a horse , that was a worthy protest I think
And of course when the racist far right english defence league came to cardiff loads of people marched against them and they havnt been seen since
As for government spending taxation is going to have to rise now more than ever before or we will have riots far bigger than those associated with political protests
If the tories dont do it then more fool them
Emily Pankhurst never threw herself under anything.
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Re: Aeroplane Over The Etihad
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Originally Posted by
Wash DC Blue
You just pick the lowest common denominator and castigate swathes of Middle America in one swoop.
I am not talking about middle america
I am talking about the bible belt Republican goons
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Re: Aeroplane Over The Etihad
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Originally Posted by
Wash DC Blue
So nothing to do with Antifa?
I’ve been invited to join marches by local organizers and I would go...it’s just not safe though.
In the last week joined the call to boycott a prominent local business because of the owners blatant racism and I have signed a position to remove the long time treasure of the county I live in for tasteless remarks about Aunt Jemima.
Not much I know compared to many.
When it’s safe to do so, I will certainly be marching and protesting for Black Lives regardless of whatever vehicle is driving it.
No nothing to do with anti fascist action
TUC were prominent as were a lot of community groups
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Re: Aeroplane Over The Etihad
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Originally Posted by
xsnaggle
Emily Pankhurst never threw herself under anything.
Nor did Emmeline Davison.
But Sludge is referring to Emily Davison - and although her death wasn't the main event behind women getting the vote (although the film Suffragette implied it) it was a significant milestone. Direct action is often what provokes change when the talking is going nowhere!
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Re: Aeroplane Over The Etihad
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Originally Posted by
Vindec
No doubt you will join the rioters/marchers when tax rises. I must admit that you were not nearly so vociferous during the anti semite accusations against the Labour Party as you are supporting the BLM movement. As an aside I see Rebecca Long Bailey has been sacked this afternoon for an implied anti semite tweet and there have been objections to the sackings by some Labour MPs and supporters. I note you didn't reply to my question asking which government can afford to pay for the Utopian Society you believe is possible. You can march as much of you like but at some point a sense of realism has to exist.
No I wont be marching against tax rises as we will need them . That's the point . The people who will be pissed off with the tax rises will be the rich .
I think the labour party has many people who are anti Zionist and I agree with much of what they say but this the labour party is anti semite is a load of old cobblers .
A government that raises taxes and distributes wealth is one I want , which is what I told you
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Re: Aeroplane Over The Etihad
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Originally Posted by
stan butler
What was racist about the banner display? white lives matter , black lives matter is exactly the same..
Fecking hell another one lines up
Its like trying to educate a lump of cheese
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Re: Aeroplane Over The Etihad
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Originally Posted by
xsnaggle
The police said they have 'looked into' the incident and can see no reason for any criminal action.
You can be a complete and utter racist **** without getting lifted by the police
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Re: Aeroplane Over The Etihad
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
Well you say that but you regularly post political points and most of them ever firmly towards the right
Your suggestion it's all about getting on with life and family is what thatcher said .....there is no such thing as society
I most certainly give a **** about who is running the country , we have an inept country in charge of running the country at the moment who said black people have watermelon smiles , a deeply offensive racist term used in the deep south
You dont care who is running the country as long as you are doing ok
I understand
That's funny, you've completely mis-interpreted what I said. Put it this way, I don't look to government/politics to determine every living breathing moment of my life. I also don't see them as the scapegoats for all that goes wrong in life.
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Sludge.
Give up its not worth it.
The Burnley captain summed that banner up brilliantly.
Its not worth your time and energy.
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Re: Aeroplane Over The Etihad
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Originally Posted by
jon1959
Nor did Emmeline Davison.
But Sludge is referring to Emily Davison - and although her death wasn't the main event behind women getting the vote (although the film Suffragette implied it) it was a significant milestone. Direct action is often what provokes change when the talking is going nowhere!
I was actually referring to Emily pankhurst lol , who I thought threw herself under a horse but you are right , direct action is what I was implying
