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Future Captain material imhoQuote:
Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish
Yes true :thumbup:Quote:
Originally Posted by olderblue
But also a player we could get a sizeable transfer fee for that could than be reinvested in a player or players to improve other areas of the squad such as a creative midfielderQuote:
Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">�� I understand Joel Colwill will join Cheltenham Town on a season-long loan.<br><br>A very smart move for all concerned. If he can get 30+ games under his belt it benefits everyone. <br><br>Wales youth international has many backers at Cardiff who believe he has a big future with the club. <a href="https://t.co/VmYoCDs9Dw">pic.twitter.com/VmYoCDs9Dw</a></p>— Glen Williams (@GlenWilliams12) <a href="https://twitter.com/GlenWilliams12/status/1819362214836338953?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 2, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Yes that seems like a good loanQuote:
Originally Posted by Michael Morris
I would have liked to see Joel stay but he needs to be playing so good move for him. Hopefully like King he impressed and comes back January.
I suppose it's the way of the world (and social media) these days, but don't they go over the top?Quote:
Originally Posted by Rjk
"A very smart move..."
Isn't it a blindingly obvious one? Colwill was unlikely to get much (if any) game time here this season, so a move to League Two seems about right.
we have now agreed a fee with Manchester City for the midfielder Alex Robertson allegedly
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">We are excited to announce the signing of highly-rated midfielder Joel Colwill on a season-long loan from <a href="https://twitter.com/CardiffCityFC?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@CardiffCityFC</a>, subject to international clearance ✍️❤️<br><br>Welcome to Town, Joel!<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ctfc?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ctfc</a>♦️ | <a href="https://twitter.com/littlejetco?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@littlejetco</a></p>— Cheltenham Town (@CTFCofficial) <a href="https://twitter.com/CTFCofficial/status/1819372605347901645?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 2, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Strange only one more loan, that's a very good market normally?
Still, it looks like a good early window so far.
Good move for Joel I hope, providing they show faith and play him every game possible.
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/...gn=communities
Highly-rated Cardiff City youngster leaves on loan as Erol Bulut reveals transfer strategy
The Wales youth international will head on a season long loan move to the League Two club.
Promising Cardiff City youngster Joel Colwill will head on loan to Cheltenham Town for the 2024/25 campaign.
The 19-year-old central midfielder has huge backers within the club and many are tipping him to play alongside his older brother Rubin in the middle of the pitch for years to come for the Bluebirds.
However, Cardiff are stacked in the middle of the park and it would have proved tricky for Colwill to muscle his way into the reckoning, with Manolis Siopis, Joe Ralls, Andy Rinomhota and Eli King more senior options in that position.
King himself has enjoyed loan spells away are Crewe, Morecambe and Ross County in recent years and has come back a far better player for those experiences. Cardiff hope Colwill Jr will benefit similarly.
Colwill, an all-action midfielder, made his senior debut against Colchester United in the Carabao Cup almost exactly a year ago and also turned out in the defeat at Blackburn in September. He added an FA Cup appearance to his name at Sheffield Wednesday in January and played the last two Championship games of the season.
Cardiff have made four signings this summer but only one contracted player — another central midfielder in Ebou Adams, who went to Derby County — has left the club.
Ryan Wintle has been told he is free to leave, while a question mark remains over Mahlon Romeo, too. There are a number of youngsters hoping to burst on to the scene and make an impact this season, too, but the likelihood is a number of them will join Colwill and head out on loan.
"For sure, young players will go for a loan," Bulut said this week. "We saw last season Isaak (Davies) went for a loan and had a great season and now he is back he delivers good football for us.
"Some young players will go for loans because we want them back in a good shape. A few players will be out but that is the normal way in football."
Speaking about Davies, following his loan stint in Belgium where he scored 12 goals in 36 games, Bulut believes the 22-year-old striker can have an important role this year, offering something no one else does. Sign up to our Cardiff City newsletter here.
Asked if he had been impressed with the returning Davies this summer, Bulut said: "For sure. With his speed first of all – sometimes we have to control him not to sprint so much.
"But he did well in the games, he will be important for us sometimes in games where we stay deep to use him in behind. How he scored that goal against Hertha."
Cardiff have leant heavily on the loan market in recent seasons, but we are told their preference is to add permanent signings. Another central midfielder in Alex Robertson of Manchester City is a target and City's preference is to take him on a permanent deal, too.
City have used just one loan slot in the form of Wilfried Kanga and Bulut said they are changing the strategy this summer, wanting only one more loan addition this summer.
When asked if they were looking to bring in any more temporary signings, Bulut added: "I cannot say yes or no, but we try to get players in where it feels like home.
"Everybody has to feel 'I am here at home'. Loans you need also, you cannot manage it because other clubs are involved. This season we have only one loan. We don't want to take many loans. There could be one more but I think not more."
Portsmouth News now reporting that City have won the race to sign Robertson on a season-long loan:-Quote:
Originally Posted by MOZZER2
https://www.portsmouth.co.uk/sport/f...n-city-4727633
Wow, I wish I didn't have to return 'home' to the States next week - I think this guy will be huge success and imo we now seem close to having a very good shout for 24/5.
Some people are glass half and positive. Maybe better for them to be like that than look for the negative in everything all the time. You’re like a badly scorned ex girlfriend on times.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman
That old line. Top marks. Must have taken you hours to come up with that beauty.Quote:
Originally Posted by Henry Hill
Some people are glass half? Righto…
There’s no need to be so bitter and twisted. It can’t be good for your mental health being so negative all the time. I don’t like Bulut ball and I’m not a fan of Tan either but to be so negative before a ball is even kicked this season can’t be good for you. It must be mentally exhausting trying to find a negative with everything the club does. Every single signing you’ve looked for the negative in their stats and now you’re looking for a negative in us loaning out a youngster.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman
Do you want a cuddle? Would that make you feel better?
I very much doubt a cuddle from you would be in any way beneficial, but I’m certainly open to any better offers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Henry Hill
I wasn’t commenting negatively about the club sending Colwill out on loan. It’s blindingly obvious they should be doing just that, and hopefully more of the club’s youngsters will also be going out on loan before the window shuts.
I was merely commenting negatively about the bullshit way in which football journalists these days attempt to sensationalise even the most basic bits of news.
Sending a young player out on loan to get games and gain experience isn’t ‘a very smart move.’ It’s common practice, common sense and something almost every professional football club will do this summer.
Apologies if that sounds negative or glass half. But it’s merely the truth.
considering it wasn't long ago we were sending our top prospects to Weston Super Mare, or the Welsh league I'm happy for them to go over the top a bit on this oneQuote:
Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman
Perhaps that’s as good as the players concerned were. Haven’t City sent plenty of other young players on loan to League One and Two in recent years? Or have I imagined it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Rjk
Mark Harris had a couple of stints with Flynn's Newport I seem to remember.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman
Weston Super Mare play in the National League South, that not a bad standard for young players to learn at. Tough as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rjk
Cheltenham are paying the majority of his wages ( not that he was on much ) and it’s feasible that they have paid a loan fee as well , and it would be considerably more than Weston and teams of that stature.
More to go out shortly
to be fair to the NLS, they provided Cheltenham with Jordan Thomas who will be playing with Joel this seasonQuote:
Originally Posted by Tuerto
Now I liked watching JT at Bath City, a decent player and I said he would make it in the lower leagues of the EFL , will be interesting to see him and Joel play
Saw another podcast by the person who I put a link to a few days ago and he’s now saying we’re signing a number 8/box to box midfielder early next week (presumably Robertson).He says we then could be signing a centreback who he’s been told will be coming here to be a starter in the first team a few days later. He sees this as a bit pointless and figures it must mean McGuinness is leaving, I find it hard to disagree with him and can only think the new centreback has to be some player(maybe the Cypriot centreback we were linked with yesterday?).Quote:
Originally Posted by City123
Interesting :thumbup:Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
Swansea interested in Tyrese Campbell
Lets see if we do get one of the midfielders this week!
It doesn't make it official...but now Hull seem to be conceding that Robertson is on his way to Cardiff.
https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/spor...t-sign-9457979
I really hope this happens...
Scott Mc Kenna
In Gran Canaria for a medical before signing for Las Palmas …apparentlyQuote:
Originally Posted by Former Labour leader
That’s what I thought.Quote:
Originally Posted by light up the darkness
Well sourced thanks!Quote:
Originally Posted by Cowbridge Blue
I don't know much about Robertson, but a lot of people seem to really rate him for someone who's had one pretty good season at league one and one forgettable loan to Ross county
BBC now confident of Robertson
Manchester City midfielder Alex Robertson is on his way to Cardiff City.
The two clubs have agreed a deal for the Australian international, which BBC Wales Sport understands could rise to a value of £3m.
Robertson, 21, is due for a medical on Monday with Cardiff's fifth signing of the summer expected to be confirmed shortly.
Cardiff have beaten off competition from newly promoted Championship side Portsmouth to sign the Scottish born player.
Robertson was entering the final year of his contract at the Premier League champions.
Cardiff were optimistic of signing Robertson last week, when manager Erol Bulut said he was an "interesting" player.
But Pompey were very keen to attract the player back to Fratton Park, where he had a successful loan season in 2023-24, making 23 appearances and scoring a goal before injury curtailed his spell there.
Roberton's acquisition will mean Bulut has strengthened the midfield as well as the defensive line with Callum Chambers, and his attacking resources by recruiting Chris Willock, Anwar El Ghazi and Ivorian striker Wilfried Kanga on loan from Hertha BSC.
The Bluebirds still have an interest in signing Leicester City winger Kasey McAteer but are reportedly facing competition from Championship foes Hull City.
what is it with hull city all the time:shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by Michael Morris
I was wondering this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rjk
I assumed it was because people see he was with Man City therefore must good even though they'd never seen him play.
Half a pretty good season in League One to be more precise. His final appearance for Pompey was on 1st January 2024, then he got badly injured in training and didn't play again.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rjk
I don't know much about him either, but he's got to be better than Wintle.
One thing I have noticed looking at Robertson's stats - he gets booked a lot. Ten bookings in 22 (+5) appearances for Pompey last season in all competitions. So I'm guessing he's aggressive.
Assuming he is not ready for a few weeks as well as he has only played a couple months more recently that el ghazi?Quote:
Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman
I was a bit annoyed Joel Colwill was put out on loan as I felt he had that ability to drive forward through midfield that none of our other central mids do. Only seen the YouTube clips of this lad but it seems he is more than capable of carrying the ball forward and picking a pass which for us will look brilliant.
Good age to be investing in also. Just have to see how he settles in.
That’s what I was thinking. Either there is only limited players available currently so us and hull are targetting the same players.Quote:
Originally Posted by poc
Or we use the same agents as Hull
Or it’s just lazy journalism
is he that far ahead of some of our own youngsters on the back of 20 league one games?Quote:
Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman
It was a really bad hamstring injury, apparently the worst you can have, but he's said to have recovered. I read an interview where he was saying he could have been back for Pompey's last coupe of games last season at a push, but they decided not to risk it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nobody's Rep
No idea who he's been training with recently or if he's had a proper pre-season, but you'd imagine Man City would keep their young players on then go. Not quite the same situation as El Ghazi, who has effectively been without a club, or Kanga, who wasn't a part of Hertha Berlin's pre-season squad.
Who knows? But I'm guessing he's judged to have more more natural ability than our young players.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rjk