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Can you imagine being Boris Johnson trying to juggle his second rate EU deal against the clock versus the UK-USA trade deal which might look a lot different if we are negotiating with Biden rather than Trump? Bet he loves the tick tock of Trump's I know the votes say I've lost but I haven't really strategy so I'll spin it out!Quote:
Originally Posted by surge
Question.
Many Americans think Trump is actually doing OK, hence it being so close.
What does Biden bring that will make America, and the world a better place. And how does the eventual result have a bearing on the UK's relationship with the US?
[QUOTE=Michael Morris;5133053]Question.
Many Americans think Trump is actually doing OK, hence it being so close.
What does Biden bring that will make America, and the world a better place. And how does the eventual result have a bearing on the UK's relationship with the US?[/QUOTE
Obviously the election was nothing about us, From what I saw there was no vision for the next 4 years from either. Biden flogged I will manage coronavirus and internal and international affairs more rationally than Trump. Trump said I did a good job with the economy before the virus came along and I am more experienced now than when you elected me.
In fairness, regardless of who wins, loads more people voted this year than. ever. One problem may be that for somewhere badging itself as a true democracy it seems really difficult to opt in rather than opt out of voting.
On the second point, Trump's team are a lot closer to Boris Johnson than Joe Biden and the Democrats. The main tenet of the Leave campaign that has moved now into mainstream government since the election is that we can hook up with vibrant economies like the US and the deals we do will outweigh anything we lose from being part of the EU single market.
We negotiated a withdrawal agreement with the EU which pivots on managing a seamless border with Ireland. Johnson threw some flames on that agreement after it was ratified as an international treaty to show that the UK would have a "No Deal" if necessary.
Long winded, but as far as the UK -US relationship goes, Biden, as an Irish American, and the Democrat majority in the House of Representatives will not ratify a UK-US trade agreement that threatens the Good Friday Agreement though another Trump Administration might be more agreeable.
Johnson is wrestling with how many consessions he can make in the EU deal without making it look like why did we bother. He could play a stronger hand if Trump won but the longer that takes to reach a conclusion the weaker hand he plays.
Does that make sense?
Knowing what we do about DT and still 65 million people support him.
Noah, ready the boat. A great flood is the only thing that can save us.
Trump is doing well, in the short term. If anyone can do or say whatever they want, earn more money and ignore any looming issue then everything is okay...in the short term. But if Trump is doing okay then why have so many of his inner circle been fired or arrested? Why are there so many conspiracy theorists supporting him? Why do countries like Poland have a better relationship than ever with America and are restricting rights to abortion and denying homosexuality exists?Quote:
Originally Posted by Michael Morris
Trump has delivered much of what he promised which is why he's got votes again - it makes him different from a politician. But would you want your child acting as he does? And he would become just the fourth president to only win 4 years. The others are Hoover (8 years of a different republican president before his 4 years as a republican, same with George Bush senior and then democrat Jimmy Carter who promoted something akin to austerity) so is he doing so well?
Biden takes longer term issues, such as climate change, seriously. He is also not the perfect candidate by far. Trump likes Brexit, Biden favours maintaing peace in Isle of Ireland - latter makes a deal with EU slightly more likely.
The US has withdrawn from the Paris Agreement under Trump. He does not believe in climate change.Quote:
Originally Posted by Michael Morris
Biden has called it the biggest challenge we need to face.
I don't think you need any other answers.
If anyone is worried about the missing posters from this thread, don't. One has been found.
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Do you think them f**king off without a trace is what they kept saying was "coming" every few weeks?Quote:
Originally Posted by lardy
I think the song goes "sing when you're winning..." :hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by Heisenberg
Trump calling on reinforcements.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Y’all! This is Trump’s spiritual adviser. They have literally lost their shit! 😂😆 <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WTF?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WTF</a> <a href="https://t.co/OWSlLlqi2k">pic.twitter.com/OWSlLlqi2k</a></p>— Kelly Mantle (@thekellymantle) <a href="https://twitter.com/thekellymantle/status/1324181621042409473?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 5, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
I cannot wait to hear this over a hip-hop beat :hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by Baloo
I think that I am now in favour of the wall being built. To keep people in though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Baloo
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Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie
Much as I would like this to be true it reminds me of a guided tour I once had to the Globe Theatre in Stratford on Avon. Whilst there there was an actor on stage doing some voice training exercises. It was remarkably similar to this. Passages of often meaningless phrases interspersed with nonsensical gutteral chants (sounds a bit like a LoM post).Quote:
Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie
That could also explain the guy wandering behind reading a script and the black girl who leaps enthusiastically into shot at the end of the clip.
What can I say. I was sooooo wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays
https://thehill.com/homenews/adminis...nt-in-election
After the PPE procurement scandals earlier in the year I predict a padded jacket scandal if these religious con artists can't be protected from themselves!Quote:
Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays
Where did you go?Quote:
Originally Posted by life on mars
Trump tonight cries foul. He comes in at 18 mins
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJrc...el=PBSNewsHour
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Originally Posted by life on mars
34.05 "It's not a question of who wins" :hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by Michael Morris
It’s amazing he wants postal votes stopped, what’s wrong with him? They are perfectly legal and it’s only because he encouraged his supporters to go to vote on the day, whereas Biden encouraged postal votes, so he knows they are mainly not for him. Seems like he doesn’t want a democratic system after all, ironic with the way he goes on about China yet maybe he’s got more in common than he thinks.....:hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by Veg1960
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/page/2/
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Is it coming?Quote:
Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays
He certainly seems in awe of the sort of people who lead China, Russia, North Korea etc. etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by goats
Not much loyalty from the Trump Boys. He needs them more than ever to spread his disinformation and they're nowhere to be seen.
I'm very disappointed with them.
Too busy starting up their Tucker 24 engines probablyQuote:
Originally Posted by lardy
https://thehill.com/homenews/preside...op-frontrunner
They're stuck under the "landslide" that LoM was talking about.Quote:
Originally Posted by lardy
Never mind AP, CNN, Fox.... time for CCMB to call it:
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So what do we reckon? Any takers for 'greatest'?Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
Will it be :thumbup: or :xmasthumbup: though
I'm on the fence regarding the greatest. Was going to say Lincoln but I heard that there is something about to drop in two weeks time that will show him to be the most corrupt politician evererQuote:
Originally Posted by lardy
Donald Trump's press conference this afternoon (just before his golf round) will be held at Four Seasons Total Landscaping in Philadelphia - just next to the Fantasy Island sex shop.
This appears to be true! :hehe: The press are massing.
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4 years, 250 pages and 7755 posts later - this thread has 2 months left of being the President Donald Trump thread. Then it will be The Donald Trump is facing numerous criminal charges thread.
I, for one, cannot wait for that to unfold.
And to the posters who have spent the last 4 years defending the orange criminal-in-chief, I say... I'm really going to enjoy all of the gloating that I will be doing.
I'm sure that you will all be truly missed as your "Trump Delusion Syndrome" (as you liked to say) keeps you from posting in here.
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When do you think that LoM/Herbert will realise that all his supportive PM crew are sitting quietly on their chairs whilst he is standing with a confused look on his face because the music he was happily listening to with his friends suddenly stopped? I'm going for Tuesday at the earliest!
So soon?Quote:
Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays