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I suspect it's down to money. The Mirror and Guardian are both struggling.
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Pearcey3
I suspect it's down to money. The Mirror and Guardian are both struggling.
Not sure about the Mirror group but the Guardian is for sure. They spent a fortune chasing the digital media market and failed miserably, now making huge redundancies.
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Pearcey3
Couldn't agree more. It's a shame this right wing rag doesn't focus on the murky world of big business but then again it wouldn't want to upset some of its friends.
Focus on the murky world of big business?? The Premier League clubs, players, managers and agents seemingly don't pull in enough of fans' money for you...football these days is one of the murkiest businesses there is.
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Ainsley Harriott
Focus on the murky world of big business?? The Premier League clubs, players, managers and agents seemingly don't pull in enough of fans' money for you...football these days is one of the murkiest businesses there is.
I think there is a lot of hypocrisy with the Torygraph . I wonder how much tax their owners pay to the UK Government. **** all I suspect.
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Beanz1927
"Latest #football4sale allegations concern Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink at QPR, Tommy Wright of Barnsley and Leeds' Massimo Cellino"
Comes to something when I'm surprised that we aren't one of the clubs mentioned
If only we were, it would have meant we were spending and buying players.
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surge
Poor lad. He's made his appearance as a whore and a cheap one at that.
You would think they might've taken some pity on him:hehe:
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Wouldnt this be better to try and find the managers who hasn't taken a cheeky back hander
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jamieccfc
You would think they might've taken some pity on him:hehe:
The footballing equivalent of being taken to court for shoplifting a bag for life.
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Dr Lecter
The footballing equivalent of being taken to court for shoplifting a bag for life.
:hehe:
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Barry Shitpeas
Didn't we shaft JFH out of bonus payments or something when he left the City?
No other way around, he shafted City to pay him an extra year's salary. The Peter Ridsdale shake hands incident.
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Dr Lecter
The footballing equivalent of being taken to court for shoplifting a bag for life.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=218iXiKhKlg
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Bluebird since 1948
Why does it have to be right wing newspapers that do this? There are so many left wing blogs and alternative media sources on the net they can do it.
Which newspaper carried out the undercover investigation into the illegal practices being carried out by Sports Direct?
I'll give you a clue
https://www.theguardian.com/business...nimum-wage-pay
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neilw65
I know this one! It was the Echo wasn't it?
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Barry Shitpeas
I know this one! It was the Echo wasn't it?
:hehe: Well Bluebird since 1948 did refer to it as a "Shower of shite newspaper"
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neilw65
Sterling work. So big business is being targeted by newspapers then. I don't care where the Telegraph pay their taxes or if they do at all, they are obviously working within the rules and fat sam and the rest of the millionaires stung by this operation weren't.
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Pearcey3
Couldn't agree more. It's a shame this right wing rag doesn't focus on the murky world of big business but then again it wouldn't want to upset some of its friends.
^^^This^^^^
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Bluebird since 1948
Sterling work. So big business is being targeted by newspapers then. I don't care where the Telegraph pay their taxes or if they do at all, they are obviously working within the rules and fat sam and the rest of the millionaires stung by this operation weren't.
The reason that I replied to your post was because you said "If the Guardian showed the slightest hint of enterprise that shower of shite newspaper wouldn't be on it's arse making people redundant every month." The link that I posted proved that you were talking nonsense.
As for your comment that you don't care whether the Telegraph pay taxes or not, or where they pay them if they do, is a quite an enlightening comment regarding your morals. Not only should a company such as the Telegraph have a moral duty to pay their fair share of taxes, and not employ expensive lawyers to circumvent paying their fair share, because apart from taxes helping the poorest in society, it is taxes that have built the roads to transport their newspapers, taxes that has paid for education for their workers, taxes that has paid for transportation such as the Tube and taxes that pays for health care and police.
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Corruption in football should carry life ban - Wales boss Chris Coleman
http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/37504374
Cookie ain't takin no shit
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neilw65
The reason that I replied to your post was because you said "If the Guardian showed the slightest hint of enterprise that shower of shite newspaper wouldn't be on it's arse making people redundant every month." The link that I posted proved that you were talking nonsense.
As for your comment that you don't care whether the Telegraph pay taxes or not, or where they pay them if they do, is a quite an enlightening comment regarding your morals. Not only should a company such as the Telegraph have a moral duty to pay their fair share of taxes, and not employ expensive lawyers to circumvent paying their fair share, because apart from taxes helping the poorest in society, it is taxes that have built the roads to transport their newspapers, taxes that has paid for education for their workers, taxes that has paid for transportation such as the Tube and taxes that pays for health care and police.
No one wants to pay taxes so spare me the moral crusade. Whilst there are loopholes in place then smart companies/individuals will continue to exploit them until they are closed. But lets get real, the Telegraph aren't targeting people on the breadline or small time benefit fraudsters here. They are targeting multi millionaires in an industry awash with too much money and too much corruption but let's turn a blind eye because it's the Torygraph.
Oh and the Guardian is on it's arse, big time. It sells far less print copies than all over major newspapers including the star and the FT. They recently had to make 250 redundancies to break even.
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Bluebird since 1948
No one wants to pay taxes so spare me the moral crusade. Whilst there are loopholes in place then smart companies/individuals will continue to exploit them until they are closed. But lets get real, the Telegraph aren't targeting people on the breadline or small time benefit fraudsters here. They are targeting multi millionaires in an industry awash with too much money and too much corruption but let's turn a blind eye because it's the Torygraph.
Oh and the Guardian is on it's arse, big time. It sells far less print copies than all over major newspapers including the star and the FT. They recently had to make 250 redundancies to break even.
I wonder what options the Guardian should go with to get off its arse?
It could sub-contract its editorials and news selection to its corporate sponsors like the Telegraph?
It could erect a paywall for its online pages like the Times?
It could sack even more journalists and rely even more on external wire copy to fill its pages, like most of the UK regional press?
It could become the voice of the new mass Labour Party rather than the cheerleader for anti-Corbyn plotters?
Decisions, decisions....
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jon1959
I wonder what options the Guardian should go with to get off its arse?
It could sub-contract its editorials and news selection to its corporate sponsors like the Telegraph?
It could erect a paywall for its online pages like the Times?
It could sack even more journalists and rely even more on external wire copy to fill its pages, like most of the UK regional press?
It could become the voice of the new mass Labour Party rather than the cheerleader for anti-Corbyn plotters?
Decisions, decisions....
I subscribe to the excellent Times online and find it to be worth every penny. I just don't think there is an appetite in this country for a paper like the Guardian, not on a large scale anyway. If you want a cheerleader for Corbyn try the Morning Star or the Socialist Worker.
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jon1959
I wonder what options the Guardian should go with to get off its arse?
It could sub-contract its editorials and news selection to its corporate sponsors like the Telegraph?
It could erect a paywall for its online pages like the Times?
It could sack even more journalists and rely even more on external wire copy to fill its pages, like most of the UK regional press?
It could become the voice of the new mass Labour Party rather than the cheerleader for anti-Corbyn plotters?
Decisions, decisions....
The Guardian online shop is closing 6th Oct the whole thing won't last much longer
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If you're talking about taxes and the left, the guardian etc......
The tories have done far more to attack small to medium size businesses for tax avoidance.
But it doesn't get covered.
They are pummeling businesses. Doing deals with them to cut their fines if they own up now. Closing loop holes left right and centre.
And they aren't just going after current businesses doing it. They're getting done for avoidance years and years ago.
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Llanedeyrnblue
The Guardian online shop is closing 6th Oct the whole thing won't last much longer
I know a few folks who work for the paper. It's been operating at a loss for years, but has a huge reserve of funds so it won't be packing in any time soon. It does have money making problems, but it's a huge global brand which will find a way.
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Just seen a list of names that are going to be implicated in this, not sure if it's legitmate but if true this thing is going to go toxic. Some big names.