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Originally Posted by
William Treseder
Ive been stopped a few times over the yrs in Cardiff, for certain reasons. Yes, it can be annoying, but if you don't have an attitude, and answer the questions your asked, it’s usually over quickly and your on your way.
not that straight forward these days, if anyone in the car is bame then the officer is a evil raving nazi racist :shrug:
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You are 9x more likely to be stopped and searched if you are black.
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Originally Posted by
Welshcake.
You are 9x more likely to be stopped and searched if you are black.
Is that figure for the whole of the UK, or just London?
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it's outrageous this couple were racially profiled through tinted windows. officers should be sacked
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Originally Posted by
Welshcake.
You are 9x more likely to be stopped and searched if you are black.
this is just a poor use of statistics.
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Originally Posted by
Llandaff Blue
this is just a poor use of statistics.
Careful. The heavy crew will be all over this thread soon. You cant have opinions like this without being a racist. Thought you’d have known that by now!!!
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Originally Posted by
Llandaff Blue
this is just a poor use of statistics.
Sorry I was also wrong, it's 40x in England and Wales...perhaps you can take up the poorness of the reporting with the MSM reporting it, thanks.
https://www.theguardian.com/law/2019...ow-racial-bias
up from 9x:
https://www.itv.com/news/2018-10-14/...-drugs-report/
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Originally Posted by
Welshcake.
You haven't disproved anything, you've essentially made the same comment twice. Without looking at the crime statistics this stat is as useful as me saying 'men more likely to be stopped than women'
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Originally Posted by
Llandaff Blue
You haven't disproved anything, you've essentially made the same comment twice. Without looking at the crime statistics this stat is as useful as me saying 'men more likely to be stopped than women'
Feel free to click the links provided.
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Originally Posted by
William Treseder
Careful. The heavy crew will be all over this thread soon. You cant have opinions like this without being a racist. Thought you’d have known that by now!!!
:hehe:
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Originally Posted by
Welshcake.
Feel free to click the links provided.
I'm not disputing the statistics, I'm telling you without providing crime rates it's pointless using them. Black people commit disproportionate knife crime, therefore black people will be searched for knives at a higher rate. I don't think stop and search is effective on its own, but it's not racist.
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Originally Posted by
Llandaff Blue
I'm not disputing the statistics, I'm telling you without providing crime rates it's pointless using them. Black people commit disproportionate knife crime, therefore black people will be searched for knives at a higher rate. I don't think stop and search is effective on its own, but it's not racist.
An interesting viewpoint - and one that defies all the data.
Do you think racial profiling is racist?
I assume you don't as you have already got to the argument that 'black people' commit x times more crime (knife crime is just an example) therefore should be x times more targeted by the police. In my innocence I thought criminals committed x times more crime so the police should use objective intelligence (not stereotypes and plain prejudice) to target criminals!
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Originally Posted by
Welshcake.
You are 9x more likely to be stopped and searched if you are black.
in a prodementlay black area yes, before all this , ,people were asking why black youths were knifing each other in London
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Originally Posted by
William Treseder
No 1. What has them both being athletes got to do with anything.
No2. If the female was as calm and passive as she appeared in the interview after, when she was initially asked to get out of the car, the incident would probably have passed with hardly any fuss.
Ive been stopped a few times over the yrs in Cardiff, for certain reasons. Yes, it can be annoying, but if you don't have an attitude, and answer the questions your asked, it’s usually over quickly and your on your way.
Well it proves that any intelligence they were acting on was bollocks as top level athletes dont smoke ...apart from Ian Botham
How many times have you been stopped ? 15 ?
Dont you think after so many stops you would be thinking hold on a minute , this is not right ?
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Originally Posted by
William Treseder
Careful. The heavy crew will be all over this thread soon. You cant have opinions like this without being a racist. Thought you’d have known that by now!!!
In cardiff you are 7 times more likely to be stopped if you are black
But keep burying your head in the sand
After all , you are white and so are the rest of the dont play the race card types
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Originally Posted by
Welshcake.
Dont quote facts on here mate , you are playing the race card
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Re: British Sprinter And Her Black Boyfriend Stopped By The Police .....
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Originally Posted by
Llandaff Blue
:hehe:
Let's just say either you people are burying your heads in the sand as white people ....or maybe the accusations by some that you are being a bit ignorant holds water
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Originally Posted by
life on mars
in a prodementlay black area yes, before all this , ,people were asking why black youths were knifing each other in London
In cardiff which is not predominantly black in any area , you are 7 times more likely to be stopped by the police
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Originally Posted by
jon1959
An interesting viewpoint - and one that defies all the data.
Do you think racial profiling is racist?
I assume you don't as you have already got to the argument that 'black people' commit x times more crime (knife crime is just an example) therefore should be x times more targeted by the police. In my innocence I thought criminals committed x times more crime so the police should use objective intelligence (not stereotypes and plain prejudice) to target criminals!
Not 'should', but 'are', big difference. I had an issue with the original post quoting statistics without context.
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Originally Posted by
Llandaff Blue
You haven't disproved anything, you've essentially made the same comment twice. Without looking at the crime statistics this stat is as useful as me saying 'men more likely to be stopped than women'
Yes , I think those figures clearly show hes just nit picking
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
Yes , I think those figures clearly show hes just nit picking
I'm waiting for you to quote my other comment which said I do not dispute the figures
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Originally Posted by
Llandaff Blue
I'm waiting for you to quote my other comment which said I do not dispute the figures
So black people are stopped due to their race more often than white people then ?
Well you agree then that this is racial profiling then
That was supposed to end after the stephen lawrence enquiry which was a black guy being hacked to death by a gang of white blokes
Why are white blokes in predominantly white areas of london not stopped in the same numbers black blokes are stopped in predominantly black areas ?
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BBC News - Bianca Williams stop: Police 'want to discuss sprinter's concerns'
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-53307555
Interesting comments from stephen Lawrence's mother
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Who'd be a policeman these days? Must be the most thankless job.
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Re: British Sprinter And Her Black Boyfriend Stopped By The Police .....
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
So black people are stopped due to their race more often than white people then ?
Well you agree then that this is racial profiling then
That was supposed to end after the stephen lawrence enquiry which was a black guy being hacked to death by a gang of white blokes
Why are white blokes in predominantly white areas of london not stopped in the same numbers black blokes are stopped in predominantly black areas ?
Because they aren't stabbing each other
Why were poor white kids stopped in Glasgow during their knife endemic in the mid 2000s? Because they were the ones stabbing each other. Let me ask you, is that racist?