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Re: This is going to be one great result for Socialism
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Originally Posted by TruBlue wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 07:00
I think you are clutching at straws Mick, however I don't think it'll turn out to be as great a night for the Tory party as currently suggested. It's going to be very difficult for Cameron to govern with such a small majority, if indeed they get that.
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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 06:55
Not seen the latest predictions, but if it is a minority government and the Lib Dems decide not to support the Tories again, it would be ironic after all of their warnings about the disaster that a Labour /SNP alliance if they had to rely on a party from Northern Ireland to keep them in power.
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Originally Posted by TruBlue wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 06:50
The current predictions are that they will win a majority government, but only by a couple of seats at best. That being the case history shows how toxic that can be, so I can't see how they would do it without some sort of alliance.
Also, all predictions thus far have been undercooked so I think we might see more shocks and more Tory seats to come.
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Re: This is going to be one great result for Socialism
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Originally Posted by The Penguin wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 07:32
I think you are clutching at straws Mick, however I don't think it'll turn out to be as great a night for the Tory party as currently suggested. It's going to be very difficult for Cameron to govern with such a small majority, if indeed they get that.
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Originally Posted by TruBlue wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 07:00
Not seen the latest predictions, but if it is a minority government and the Lib Dems decide not to support the Tories again, it would be ironic after all of their warnings about the disaster that a Labour /SNP alliance if they had to rely on a party from Northern Ireland to keep them in power.
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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 06:55
The current predictions are that they will win a majority government, but only by a couple of seats at best. That being the case history shows how toxic that can be, so I can't see how they would do it without some sort of alliance.
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Originally Posted by TruBlue wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 06:50
It's not that simple though. Sinn Fein do not attend parliament so do not vote there. Effectively that, combined with horse trading will see them get all but the most contentious bills through with no issues.
Isn't horse trading just a different term for some sort of alliance?
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Re: This is going to be one great result for Socialism
I believe the monster raving loony party are polling higher than the socialist labour party
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Re: This is going to be one great result for Socialism
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Originally Posted by Ragnar Lothbrok wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 06:13
Fook off you sound like some wannabee toff, prick.
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Re: This is going to be one great result for Socialism
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Originally Posted by archibald leitch wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 06:20
At last there will be a return to good old fashioned Socialism.
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Originally Posted by Keyser Soze wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 05:59
Labour have got a kick in the arse for deserting it . The Libs got what they really deserved for lying in filth . The SNP have shown the way to kick Tory scum out of their country.
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Originally Posted by Mick the Miller wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 05:56
The downside is, we will have shit to put up with for a few more years , however it will be a price worth paying to re establish true Socialist ideals after the next election. Though rebuilding the NHS will be costly. As will also be the cost of repairing the Social fabric of this country.
I don't think that's why the scots are voting SNP
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Re: This is going to be one great result for Socialism
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Originally Posted by bluebirds over....... wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 07:54
Clutching at straws much Mickey Mouse?
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Originally Posted by Ragnar Lothbrok wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 06:13
Socialist parties did reeeeeeaaaaaaalllllyyy well.
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Originally Posted by Mick the Miller wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 06:11
No, one right wing party did better than two others.
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Originally Posted by Ragnar Lothbrok wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 06:03
Face it, Britain doesn't like socialism. It's vicious and ugly (a bit like yourself). Tories for another 5 years HURRAH!
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Re: This is going to be one great result for Socialism
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Originally Posted by Mick the Miller wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 05:56
At last there will be a return to good old fashioned Socialism.
Nationalism is the message,from this election,the recession hurt and worried people so they bunkered down to look after themselves.
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Re: This is going to be one great result for Socialism
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Originally Posted by bluebirds over....... wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 07:54
Clutching at straws much Mickey Mouse?
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Originally Posted by Ragnar Lothbrok wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 06:13
Socialist parties did reeeeeeaaaaaaalllllyyy well.
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Originally Posted by Mick the Miller wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 06:11
No, one right wing party did better than two others.
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Originally Posted by Ragnar Lothbrok wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 06:03
Face it, Britain doesn't like socialism. It's vicious and ugly (a bit like yourself). Tories for another 5 years HURRAH!
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Re: This is going to be one great result for Socialism
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Originally Posted by The Local Boy wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 07:58
At last there will be a return to good old fashioned Socialism.
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Originally Posted by archibald leitch wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 06:20
Labour have got a kick in the arse for deserting it . The Libs got what they really deserved for lying in filth . The SNP have shown the way to kick Tory scum out of their country.
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Originally Posted by Keyser Soze wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 05:59
The downside is, we will have shit to put up with for a few more years , however it will be a price worth paying to re establish true Socialist ideals after the next election. Though rebuilding the NHS will be costly. As will also be the cost of repairing the Social fabric of this country.
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Originally Posted by Mick the Miller wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 05:56
Are you suggesting they accidentally voted in 56 socialist MPs by mistake?
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Re: This is going to be one great result for Socialism
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Originally Posted by archibald leitch wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 07:09
At last there will be a return to good old fashioned Socialism.
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Originally Posted by The Penguin wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 07:06
Labour have got a kick in the arse for deserting it . The Libs got what they really deserved for lying in filth . The SNP have shown the way to kick Tory scum out of their country.
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Originally Posted by Mick the Miller wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 05:56
The downside is, we will have shit to put up with for a few more years , however it will be a price worth paying to re establish true Socialist ideals after the next election. Though rebuilding the NHS will be costly. As will also be the cost of repairing the Social fabric of this country.
or labour http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/Dsmile.gif
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Re: This is going to be one great result for Socialism
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Originally Posted by archibald leitch wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 09:07
At last there will be a return to good old fashioned Socialism.
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Originally Posted by The Local Boy wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 07:58
Labour have got a kick in the arse for deserting it . The Libs got what they really deserved for lying in filth . The SNP have shown the way to kick Tory scum out of their country.
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Originally Posted by archibald leitch wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 06:20
The downside is, we will have shit to put up with for a few more years , however it will be a price worth paying to re establish true Socialist ideals after the next election. Though rebuilding the NHS will be costly. As will also be the cost of repairing the Social fabric of this country.
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Originally Posted by Keyser Soze wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 05:59
But the richer citizens can pay for that.
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Originally Posted by Mick the Miller wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 05:56
Wrong. Brown swung to the Left. He lost power. Miliband swings harder to the left and he gets a cactus shoved so far up his arse the spikes are poking out of his mouth. The lesson here is The Left are being firmly rejected in England and Wales. Only in Scotland is it clinging on for dear life. Never mind, you can fly to Bolivia where I believe Socialism is doing well.
I'm saying that Scotland voting SNP doesn't make Scotland as left wing as you think. It's more to do with the scots wanting a powerful voice in parliament
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Re: This is going to be one great result for Socialism
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Originally Posted by The Local Boy wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 09:10
At last there will be a return to good old fashioned Socialism.
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Originally Posted by archibald leitch wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 09:07
Labour have got a kick in the arse for deserting it . The Libs got what they really deserved for lying in filth . The SNP have shown the way to kick Tory scum out of their country.
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Originally Posted by The Local Boy wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 07:58
The downside is, we will have shit to put up with for a few more years , however it will be a price worth paying to re establish true Socialist ideals after the next election. Though rebuilding the NHS will be costly. As will also be the cost of repairing the Social fabric of this country.
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Originally Posted by archibald leitch wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 06:20
But the richer citizens can pay for that.
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Originally Posted by Keyser Soze wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 05:59
Wrong. Brown swung to the Left. He lost power. Miliband swings harder to the left and he gets a cactus shoved so far up his arse the spikes are poking out of his mouth. The lesson here is The Left are being firmly rejected in England and Wales. Only in Scotland is it clinging on for dear life. Never mind, you can fly to Bolivia where I believe Socialism is doing well.
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Originally Posted by Mick the Miller wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 05:56
They have a strong voice in the shape of 59 Scots MPs. They could have said they wanted that voice to be Labour or Tory, but they have opted to elect 56 socialists.
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Re: This is going to be one great result for Socialism
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Originally Posted by archibald leitch wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 09:13
At last there will be a return to good old fashioned Socialism.
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Originally Posted by The Local Boy wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 09:10
Labour have got a kick in the arse for deserting it . The Libs got what they really deserved for lying in filth . The SNP have shown the way to kick Tory scum out of their country.
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Originally Posted by archibald leitch wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 09:07
The downside is, we will have shit to put up with for a few more years , however it will be a price worth paying to re establish true Socialist ideals after the next election. Though rebuilding the NHS will be costly. As will also be the cost of repairing the Social fabric of this country.
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Originally Posted by The Local Boy wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 07:58
But the richer citizens can pay for that.
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Originally Posted by archibald leitch wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 06:20
Wrong. Brown swung to the Left. He lost power. Miliband swings harder to the left and he gets a cactus shoved so far up his arse the spikes are poking out of his mouth. The lesson here is The Left are being firmly rejected in England and Wales. Only in Scotland is it clinging on for dear life. Never mind, you can fly to Bolivia where I believe Socialism is doing well.
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Originally Posted by Keyser Soze wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 05:59
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Originally Posted by Mick the Miller wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 05:56
These things are pretty subjective, depending on your own personal position on the political scale - but you have to be pretty right wing to think that Miliband is has taken Labour hard to the left.
The SNP aren't socialist either.
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Socialism built on the price of Oil !!!!
Socialism built on the price of Oil !!!!
If the SNP had won the independence vote - all their budget / plans were based on the price of oil - which is now half the price it was.
Sound logical financial advice.........
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Re: This is going to be one great result for Socialism
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Originally Posted by The Local Boy wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 09:14
At last there will be a return to good old fashioned Socialism.
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Originally Posted by archibald leitch wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 09:13
Labour have got a kick in the arse for deserting it . The Libs got what they really deserved for lying in filth . The SNP have shown the way to kick Tory scum out of their country.
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Originally Posted by The Local Boy wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 09:10
The downside is, we will have shit to put up with for a few more years , however it will be a price worth paying to re establish true Socialist ideals after the next election. Though rebuilding the NHS will be costly. As will also be the cost of repairing the Social fabric of this country.
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Originally Posted by archibald leitch wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 09:07
But the richer citizens can pay for that.
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Originally Posted by The Local Boy wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 07:58
Wrong. Brown swung to the Left. He lost power. Miliband swings harder to the left and he gets a cactus shoved so far up his arse the spikes are poking out of his mouth. The lesson here is The Left are being firmly rejected in England and Wales. Only in Scotland is it clinging on for dear life. Never mind, you can fly to Bolivia where I believe Socialism is doing well.
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Originally Posted by archibald leitch wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 06:20
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Originally Posted by Keyser Soze wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 05:59
These things are pretty subjective, depending on your own personal position on the political scale - but you have to be pretty right wing to think that Miliband is has taken Labour hard to the left.
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Originally Posted by Mick the Miller wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 05:56
Scotland know what left wing means, and they like it, hence the clean sweep north of the border.
**** me. You really do hate the idea that there are large numbers of people who put people before profit don't you. Even to the point of denying in your face facts
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Re: This is going to be one great result for Socialism
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Originally Posted by archibald leitch wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 09:21
At last there will be a return to good old fashioned Socialism.
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Originally Posted by The Local Boy wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 09:14
Labour have got a kick in the arse for deserting it . The Libs got what they really deserved for lying in filth . The SNP have shown the way to kick Tory scum out of their country.
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Originally Posted by archibald leitch wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 09:13
The downside is, we will have shit to put up with for a few more years , however it will be a price worth paying to re establish true Socialist ideals after the next election. Though rebuilding the NHS will be costly. As will also be the cost of repairing the Social fabric of this country.
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Originally Posted by The Local Boy wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 09:10
But the richer citizens can pay for that.
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Originally Posted by archibald leitch wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 09:07
Wrong. Brown swung to the Left. He lost power. Miliband swings harder to the left and he gets a cactus shoved so far up his arse the spikes are poking out of his mouth. The lesson here is The Left are being firmly rejected in England and Wales. Only in Scotland is it clinging on for dear life. Never mind, you can fly to Bolivia where I believe Socialism is doing well.
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Originally Posted by The Local Boy wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 07:58
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Originally Posted by archibald leitch wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 06:20
These things are pretty subjective, depending on your own personal position on the political scale - but you have to be pretty right wing to think that Miliband is has taken Labour hard to the left.
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Originally Posted by Keyser Soze wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 05:59
Scotland know what left wing means, and they like it, hence the clean sweep north of the border.
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Originally Posted by Mick the Miller wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 05:56
I don't think that's why the scots are voting SNP
just listening to the bbc pundits from all parties discussing labour, the consensus is that they can only get elected by swinging back towards to centre and they are unelectable otherwise, not what you want to hear or agree with but seems the likely labour path
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Re: This is going to be one great result for Socialism
Archie - how much PFI debt did Labour leave the NHS ?
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Re: This is going to be one great result for Socialism
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Originally Posted by packerman wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 09:26
At last there will be a return to good old fashioned Socialism.
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Originally Posted by archibald leitch wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 09:21
Labour have got a kick in the arse for deserting it . The Libs got what they really deserved for lying in filth . The SNP have shown the way to kick Tory scum out of their country.
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Originally Posted by The Local Boy wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 09:14
The downside is, we will have shit to put up with for a few more years , however it will be a price worth paying to re establish true Socialist ideals after the next election. Though rebuilding the NHS will be costly. As will also be the cost of repairing the Social fabric of this country.
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Originally Posted by archibald leitch wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 09:13
But the richer citizens can pay for that.
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Originally Posted by The Local Boy wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 09:10
Wrong. Brown swung to the Left. He lost power. Miliband swings harder to the left and he gets a cactus shoved so far up his arse the spikes are poking out of his mouth. The lesson here is The Left are being firmly rejected in England and Wales. Only in Scotland is it clinging on for dear life. Never mind, you can fly to Bolivia where I believe Socialism is doing well.
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Originally Posted by archibald leitch wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 09:07
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Originally Posted by The Local Boy wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 07:58
These things are pretty subjective, depending on your own personal position on the political scale - but you have to be pretty right wing to think that Miliband is has taken Labour hard to the left.
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Originally Posted by archibald leitch wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 06:20
Scotland know what left wing means, and they like it, hence the clean sweep north of the border.
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Originally Posted by Keyser Soze wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 05:59
I don't think that's why the scots are voting SNP
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Originally Posted by Mick the Miller wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 05:56
Are you suggesting they accidentally voted in 56 socialist MPs by mistake?
That would entail them moving to the Left then. It would be a start.
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Re: This is going to be one great result for Socialism
At least with the Torys you know what you're getting.
Labour, sorry NEW labour, have a track record of shifting their position in a desperate attempt to gain power.
They need to go back to their roots, make their position absolutely clear and choose a leadership that is credible and electable.
Right now they appear to be little more than Tory-Lite.
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Re: This is going to be one great result for Socialism
The British people will never vote for a party of the far Left. They have rejected it time after time. And when it comes packaged as Milliband and Balls, two of the most vacuous specimens you could wish to encounter, and the most extreme Leftist candidates since Foot and Kinnock, the outcome was inevitable. If Labour gets its act together, ignores the dinosaurs of the Trade Union movement, and elects someone of the Centre like Alan Johnson, for whom I have the utmost respect, then they may find their way back. But the politics of envy have no place in Britain and it's time Labour learned the lesson.
Milliband, Balls (and Clegg) - take your Mansion Tax and stick it where the sun don't shine.
As for Scotland, I don't believe everybody who voted SNP wants separation. I think they took one look at Millband (the Conservatives were never in it) and voted anti-Labour - not because he's not Left enough, but just because he is obviously inept. We'll see in the Scottish elections next year.
And lastly (to be read in a Norwegian excitable accent):
Millband, Balls, the BBC, especially Evan Davis and Nick Robinson, nearly all Radio 4 comedy, especially Jeremy Hardy, Andy Robinson and Mark Wright, Eddie Izzard, Emma Thompson and champagne socialists everywhere, Owen Jones and all other jumped up academic theorists who've never had a proper job or totted up a balance sheet, and Guardianistas everywhere ..........
YOUR BOYS TOOK ONE HELL OF A BEATING!
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Re: This is going to be one great result for Socialism
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Originally Posted by TH63 wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 09:40
At least with the Torys you know what you're getting.
Totally , totally agree. Hence I no longer vote for them.
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Re: This is going to be one great result for Socialism
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Originally Posted by Mick the Miller wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 10:10
At least with the Torys you know what you're getting.
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Originally Posted by TH63 wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 09:40
Labour, sorry NEW labour, have a track record of shifting their position in a desperate attempt to gain power.
A vote for anyone other than Labour was effectively a vote for the Torys.
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Re: This is going to be one great result for Socialism
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Originally Posted by archibald leitch wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 09:21
At last there will be a return to good old fashioned Socialism.
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Originally Posted by The Local Boy wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 09:14
Labour have got a kick in the arse for deserting it . The Libs got what they really deserved for lying in filth . The SNP have shown the way to kick Tory scum out of their country.
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Originally Posted by archibald leitch wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 09:13
The downside is, we will have shit to put up with for a few more years , however it will be a price worth paying to re establish true Socialist ideals after the next election. Though rebuilding the NHS will be costly. As will also be the cost of repairing the Social fabric of this country.
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Originally Posted by The Local Boy wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 09:10
But the richer citizens can pay for that.
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Originally Posted by archibald leitch wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 09:07
Wrong. Brown swung to the Left. He lost power. Miliband swings harder to the left and he gets a cactus shoved so far up his arse the spikes are poking out of his mouth. The lesson here is The Left are being firmly rejected in England and Wales. Only in Scotland is it clinging on for dear life. Never mind, you can fly to Bolivia where I believe Socialism is doing well.
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Originally Posted by The Local Boy wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 07:58
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Originally Posted by archibald leitch wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 06:20
These things are pretty subjective, depending on your own personal position on the political scale - but you have to be pretty right wing to think that Miliband is has taken Labour hard to the left.
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Originally Posted by Keyser Soze wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 05:59
Scotland know what left wing means, and they like it, hence the clean sweep north of the border.
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Originally Posted by Mick the Miller wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 05:56
I don't think that's why the scots are voting SNP
It really does come to something when you claim the SNP are socialist.
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Originally Posted by Jimmy Jimmy wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 09:29
Archie - how much PFI debt did Labour leave the NHS ?
Shit loads. They rolled out PFI on a scale the Tories never dared to. What exactly is your point?
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Originally Posted by archibald leitch wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 12:46
Archie - how much PFI debt did Labour leave the NHS ?
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Originally Posted by Jimmy Jimmy wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 09:29
Shit loads. They rolled out PFI on a scale the Tories never dared to. What exactly is your point?
its consigned to the historical dustbin now though. The conservatives have a majority and as such will go about embarking on some serious reform of the state, the bureaucracy, public services, education and welfare.
