That's your response? I dont have the authorities but there are fatwas saying Daesh are not MuslimQuote:
Originally Posted by Ainsley Harriott
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That's your response? I dont have the authorities but there are fatwas saying Daesh are not MuslimQuote:
Originally Posted by Ainsley Harriott
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Originally Posted by jamieccfc
Any gun control measures brought in now will,unfortunately be at least a hundred years to late,there are far to many guns in circulation.
:hehe: has it reached the 12th century yet?Quote:
Originally Posted by adz-a32
Dry my eyes,wash your mouth out bitch,:thumbup:Quote:
Originally Posted by goslow
RIP the dead
the Guys dad says it wasnt nothing to do with religion, yet a news channel is reporting he phoned the emergency services and pledged his allegiance to Daesh
you might or might not know, in Orlando the Police do security of theme parks ( both disney and Universal ) and bars and other public events when not on duty, I havent read if this bar had one doing it ? ? but as its gay pride week ( dont wear red to disney during this week if you dont want people to think you are gay ) i guess they might have, so not sure what went on with that
Security at Disney may as well be done by Donald Duck tbfQuote:
Originally Posted by blue matt
You, and your clerics may say that, the problem is that IS think they are Muslim, and are carrying out these atrocities, if not in your name, the name of your religion,Quote:
Originally Posted by adz-a32
if anyone is still in any doubt about how properly mental US gun laws are, a man who was twice investigated by the FBI on suspicion of being a potential terrorist was legally able to buy one of these over the counter:
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They claim to to have a constitutional right, which in fact, they have. If you want to be a drama queen at least get your facts right.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ainsley Harriott
It's the seventh mass shooting in the US in just the last week. Bringing this guy's religion into it is missing the real problems that Americans have with guns.
Do you feel the same way about any effort to 'control' religion in USA or other western countries?Quote:
Originally Posted by goslow
OK, I live in the US. We need gun control. The reason is simple - no guns means less capacity for random deadly violence.
But this isn't just about the availability of weapons, there is an attitude issue too. The US leads the world in terms of the number of guns per capita but there are a lot of guns in, for instance, Canada too. Yet the Canadians have a murder rate that is about 10% of that in the US.
And we stay in the EU and let Turkey have free movement
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50 perverts killed in bar': Homophobic headline on Turkish newspaper website with strong ties to country's President Erdogan
Yeni Akit, a Turkish newspaper which has supported the likes of Al-Qaeda in the past and has ties with President Erdogan, broke news of the Orlando attack by calling victims 'perverts'.
What does the EU have to do with this? Turkey's not gonna join
http://www.itv.com/news/2016-06-12/c...ys-government/Quote:
Originally Posted by ninianclark
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016...in-the-eu-pri/
Come on adz don't be naive.Quote:
Originally Posted by adz-a32
They're hardly going to admit it at this moment in time are they?
I'm sure there's plenty of obstacles preventing turkey joining the EU but being the gateway from places like Syria into Europe gives them plenty of bargaining room if it's what turkey wants to do.
I am not being naive, in fact I am being the opposite as I aint falling for the Leave campaign's scaremongering. Many member states, such as Cyprus and Greece, would be likely to veto Turkey's entry. I doubt Turkey also has met the requirements of joining.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr Lecter
You are quite correct, Turkey joining the EU is a very, very long way off.Quote:
Originally Posted by adz-a32
What is currently happening is diplomatic manoeuvres to keep Turkey sweet due to the migrant crisis on their border.
Scaremongering on both sides is pathetic. No reasoned debate or facts, just one bullshit headline after another.Quote:
Originally Posted by adz-a32
I'm pretty sure Cyprus and Greece would veto turkeys entry but unfortunately countries like Germany carry far more clout and have the real power in the EU (as we saw when Greece tried to flex its muscle)
I'm not saying turkey will join the EU - I'm simply saying that you can't believe what these people tell you. Ultimately if it's in their interests then they'll gladly roll out the red carpet for Turkey.
Fair play to the Turks, when they invaded Cyprus and relieved many Cypriots of their life, property and possessions!!!, they had the tactical nous to steal the best part of the island.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr Lecter
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Originally Posted by ninianclark
So will banning guns stop this or not? I don't mean to be glib but your comment, as confusing as it seems, sums up the complexities of such things. My personal opinion is that it wouldn't stop the guy from being a looney but would have stopped him from killing so many people if he was unable to get hold of the weapon he used. Even if he managed to get a different, less lethal weapon there would have been fewer people dead.
Gun control doesn't address mental health issues or stop people becoming radicalized - but if done properly it will reduce these incidents. While anyone being shot is a terrible thing this incident would have resulted in fewer people dying if he had been unable to get hold of this weapon.
It would be a multi billion dollar effort to stop it and remove assault weapons from society but is something that they surely have to do instead of building ****ing walls between them and other countries.
But this event has also shown how useless the system is... he was a able to legally acquire a serious weapon and passed background checks even though his wife divorced him for violent and aggressive behaviour.
All round it's a tragic event in a tragic country. RIP all those who died and somehow, somewhere let the families find the strength to cope.
I said that based on many interviews with 'southern' Americans in the aftermath of shootings over the last few years, and the subsequent "guns should be banned" arguments.Quote:
Originally Posted by NYCBlue
Even American politicians like to claim it's a "god-given" right.
http://m.chron.com/news/politics/tex...rs-6145383.php
You do know NYCBlue has an affiliation with AmericaQuote:
Originally Posted by Ainsley Harriott
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Muslims are 2% of the population of America.
This would suggest they carry out no more than 2% of the mass shootings in the USA.
So if Muslims are innately violent and dangerous, then so are Americans.