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Re: Comments from Craig Bellamy yesterday
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Originally Posted by
Baloo
I think bullying in a footballing context can mean dominating your opponent fairly. Some of Zahore’s goals I think can be decscribed like that for instance. I think it’s probably fair when we’ve been at our best.
Haven’t heard it but like listening to Bellamy so if anybody comes across it pls throw up a link.
I agree, "bullying" is a word that has come to mean physically dominating when applied in sport in recent years. Zohore is a good example to use because let's not forget this is a player who our manager was having a moan about for not getting booked often enough only a fortnight or so ago and yet back in February he "bullied" the experienced pairing of Gibson and Ayala all afternoon when we beat Middlesbrough.
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Re: Comments from Craig Bellamy yesterday
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Originally Posted by
ccfc_is_my_life
When did he play alongside John Terry?
Never did as far as I’m aware
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Re: Comments from Craig Bellamy yesterday
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Originally Posted by
WJ99mobile
I’m not sure that Bellamy has the right temperament for a top manager - he doesn’t protect anyone and says it as it is, which in certain circumstances is refreshing but could crush a player.
When things are crap, he doesn’t hide it.
Because that works as a pundit.
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Re: Comments from Craig Bellamy yesterday
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Originally Posted by
The Lone Gunman
He was excellent yesterday. Very interesting, particularly with respect to Warnock and the state of the club before he arrived. My only criticism of him as a pundit is that he begins so many sentences with "listen...." :hehe:
Indeed.😂
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Re: Comments from Craig Bellamy yesterday
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Originally Posted by
The Lone Gunman
He's really good as a pundit, always interesting. His comments about this season's Championship were spot on in my opinion. It will be fascinating to see how things work out if he does move into management. Personally, I reckon a full-time career as a pundit would probably suit him better, but you never know.
Agree entirely with your view on Bellamy as a pundit. He comes across as considered and concise, attributes that could also facilitate a decent managerial career.
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Re: Comments from Craig Bellamy yesterday
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Originally Posted by
ccfc_is_my_life
His role as a pundit is to say it as it is, or at least that's the way he views it.
That doesn't translate to him throwing players under the bus publicly, does it? Given the way he confronted Shearer about that, I'd doubt very much he'd bury players publicly - in the dressing room, sure.
Yep, it's two different roles, a good pundit shouldn't be displaying loyalty to anybody.
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Re: Comments from Craig Bellamy yesterday
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Originally Posted by
WJ99mobile
Yeah, that constant rubbing of his chin needs to be stamped out.
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Re: Comments from Craig Bellamy yesterday
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Originally Posted by
StraightOuttaCanton
Never did as far as I’m aware
Presumably this is a reference to him "outing" Terry as a wanker.
Which he is.
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Re: Comments from Craig Bellamy yesterday
Think Craig didn't develop his reasons well enough , what Warnocks side has done is compete very physically , close down , break quickly to exploit those errors created by those intensities .
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Re: Comments from Craig Bellamy yesterday
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Originally Posted by
Optimistic Nick
Presumably this is a reference to him "outing" Terry as a wanker.
Which he is.
You are correct on both accounts
One of my favourite post match interviews - loved Bellamy for it
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Re: Comments from Craig Bellamy yesterday
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Originally Posted by
Father Dougal
I could listen to Bellamy talk about football all day. I saw he was on sky and said on way out it wouldn’t surprise me if Bellamy ends up managing the club at some point next season. I doubt bookies are taking bets but I am sure he will be the next manager of Cardiff City.
I think it all depends where Cardiff are if/when Warnock is moved on. If Warnock resigns or gets the sack (feasible) and the club are in the bottom three - I'm not sure Bellamy would be the answer. However, if Warnock kept the club up next season before retiring, then maybe that would be a good time for Bellamy to step in.
It does look like Bellamy is being lined up, but I always thought Roger Gibbins would go on to manage Cardiff and that never happened.
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Re: Comments from Craig Bellamy yesterday
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Originally Posted by
The Lone Gunman
Craig Bellamy was one of the Sky Sports analysts yesterday and he had some very interesting things to say about Neil Warnock, the outstanding job he has done since he arrived at Cardiff City, the state of the club beforehand, the football the team now plays, etc. His comments in the build-up to the game were particularly interesting - well worth watching if you've recorded it.
I felt two things he said were a bit harsh, though. He claimed that City have bullied sides in the Championship throughout this season, which I don't think is entirely fair. I reckon he was spot on when he said the team's main goal is generally to stop the opposition playing and they've certainly managed to do that often enough from what I've seen, but I think the term 'bullying' was a bit strong. The Bluebirds are definitely a good deal more physical than most teams at this level, but I don't believe they've crossed the line in that respect very often.
Bellamy also said the team is not at all interested in the ball. I can understand what he means, but again I think that was a little harsh. What do you reckon?
If Bellamy is right there, and I think he may well be, speaking as a football fan first and foremost, I find that depressing. As a City fan, it doesn't stop me enjoying our promotion and praising the manager and players, but I don't like the way we play and never will do - if we stop winning, then I'll start criticising it. Yes I know that's being fickle, but it's also being honest - it's fantastic we went up, but what we were producing in the second half of the season was a long, long way from the effective and enjoyable football we started the campaign with.
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Re: Comments from Craig Bellamy yesterday
It would have seemed like a natural progression for Craig to follow Neil Warnock,
I think he will cut his teeth on another managerial job before he takes on the the Cardiff job.
Cardiff job means too much to him for him to take it on and fail.
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Re: Comments from Craig Bellamy yesterday
Bellamy is nowhere near what we'd need in a manager.
He talks a good game, but what about man management? I don't think that would be a strength.
Hands on heart, most of you would like him as a manager purely for the fact he was born in Cardiff.
Stick to being a pundit.
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Re: Comments from Craig Bellamy yesterday
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Originally Posted by
the other bob wilson
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If Bellamy is right there, and I think he may well be, speaking as a football fan first and foremost, I find that depressing. As a City fan, it doesn't stop me enjoying our promotion and praising the manager and players, but I don't like the way we play and never will do - if we stop winning, then I'll start criticising it. Yes I know that's being fickle, but it's also being honest - it's fantastic we went up, but what we were producing in the second half of the season was a long, long way from the effective and enjoyable football we started the campaign with.
A bit like the season under Malky where we were played some attacking football until we got done 4-5 at Charlton and after that it went to grinding out wins.
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Re: Comments from Craig Bellamy yesterday
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Originally Posted by
The Lone Gunman
He's really good as a pundit, always interesting. His comments about this season's Championship were spot on in my opinion. It will be fascinating to see how things work out if he does move into management. Personally, I reckon a full-time career as a pundit would probably suit him better, but you never know.
He is perfect as a pundit , giving it large like lawrenson and Hansen
But wouldn't make a manager in a million years
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Re: Comments from Craig Bellamy yesterday
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Originally Posted by
Louth
Bellamy is nowhere near what we'd need in a manager.
He talks a good game, but what about man management? I don't think that would be a strength.
Hands on heart, most of you would like him as a manager purely for the fact he was born in Cardiff.
Stick to being a pundit.
Aye , talks a good game , wouldn't have a clue to keep a dressing room
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Re: Comments from Craig Bellamy yesterday
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Originally Posted by
Jimmy the Jock
It would have seemed like a natural progression for Craig to follow Neil Warnock,
I think he will cut his teeth on another managerial job before he takes on the the Cardiff job.
Cardiff job means too much to him for him to take it on and fail.
It's his home city club but he's a Liverpool fan ft sake , it doesn't mean that much to him !!
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Re: Comments from Craig Bellamy yesterday
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
It's his home city club but he's a Liverpool fan ft sake , it doesn't mean that much to him !!
Who went to Cardiff games as a youngster and purposefully pushed through a move to his hometown club whilst in his prime so he could make a proper difference and worked for us for free. He can support both Liverpool & Cardiff, a lot of people do
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Re: Comments from Craig Bellamy yesterday
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
It's his home city club but he's a Liverpool fan ft sake , it doesn't mean that much to him !!
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Re: Comments from Craig Bellamy yesterday
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Originally Posted by
City123
Who went to Cardiff games as a youngster and purposefully pushed through a move to his hometown club whilst in his prime so he could make a proper difference and worked for us for free. He can support both Liverpool & Cardiff, a lot of people do
And we've got such a tradition of appointing Cardiff City fans as manager haven't we.
I think Bellamy is one of those people who would either be brilliant or terrible as a manager - I tend to believe it would be the former, but I could well be wrong, what I do know is that he makes a very good pundit.
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Re: Comments from Craig Bellamy yesterday
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Originally Posted by
City123
Who went to Cardiff games as a youngster and purposefully pushed through a move to his hometown club whilst in his prime so he could make a proper difference and worked for us for free. He can support both Liverpool & Cardiff, a lot of people do
In his prime ?
He was injury prone and at the end of his career
As for supporting two clubs I find it bizarre , people can do what they want but that isn't going to stop me commenting on it
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Re: Comments from Craig Bellamy yesterday
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
It's his home city club but he's a Liverpool fan ft sake , it doesn't mean that much to him !!
Bellamy came back to us when about 15 Premier League sides would have taken him, Liverpool had him the season after! I'd say that alone shows how much it means to him.
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Re: Comments from Craig Bellamy yesterday
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
Aye , talks a good game , wouldn't have a clue to keep a dressing room
Aye, as he's got **** all experience of being in one :shrug:
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Re: Comments from Craig Bellamy yesterday
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Originally Posted by
ninianclark
Someone else mentioned that we dont play the ball in our own half, we look to get it in the other half as quickly as possible first, maybe that is what Bellamy meant.
Listen we would all want to play like Man City - but some clubs wont be able to achieve that.
Some of us would love to come home and find our partner all dressed up . looking a million dollars and ready for action - whilst most come to find something nowhere near. So to put it bluntly - you make do with what you've got , especially if you are no oil painting .... :)
Man city punt it 60 yards too. It's just better when De Brunye or David Silva does it over our Sol Beckenbauer.