Im talking about Anthony Gerrard you clownQuote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
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Im talking about Anthony Gerrard you clownQuote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
Well, we know that he rarely made allowances for how opponents would play against us, I think Jay Bothroyd confirmed that in a radio interview once. We also know he rarely got involved with training.Quote:
Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish
Years ago I remember TLG posting the question of what Jones actually did, raising several questions while backing those up with a number of appropriate and accurate references. I recall he had quite some abuse over it
Arguably two of our worst centre backs in recent years individually, but they did seem to work well togetherQuote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
Not sure he picked the team all the time! Unbelievable when Gerrard talks about Jones wanting to switch to 4-3-3 and Chopra and Bothroyd vetoed it. Also sheds some light on why McCormack wasn't used more in tandem with those two, a real shame as that would have been some forward line.Quote:
Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish
Darcy Blake would have been the next Franco Baresi if he didnt have a drink problem according to Sludge.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rjk
I preferred him at full back myself.
I think he maybe could have been a poor man's Gary medel, but we didn't really play with someone in that role.Quote:
Originally Posted by J R Hartley
he was fairly quick and good in the tackle. just a bit short for a CB in the British game (at that time) and passing wasn't really good enough for other positions.
Blake had the makings of a very good player
And gerrard was easily good enough for the championship
As Chris Wilder said the other day, theres all these ex-players who end up on the scrap heap at a young age in the pub saying "that could have been me" but it isnt you. Youre sat in the pub boring people with your sob story for a reason. Not good enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rjk
No he wasnt, hence he made the step up and then had to make the step back down. Couldnt cut the mustard.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
if you did a list of all of our centre backs to have played more than say 10 times since the start of the Dave Jones era they'd probably be near the bottom of that list.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
They say that the cream usually rises to the top.Quote:
Originally Posted by J R Hartley
However, there are many reasons why some good players end up on the scrap heap and not always because they aren't good enough.
Much of it is to do with mental attitude.
It's loads to do with attitude and character, how things effect a player etc. Ability is probably only 60% of what is required to make it. Hard work, dedication and discipline will see most players with average ability at that level, to a decent career.Quote:
Originally Posted by MacAdder
BTW re the OP thought Gerrard was okay, til that pelanty! :angry:
Who are the other people in the video.
fast forwarded it to the last 35 minutes, so missed any introductions
Absolutely.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tuerto
Dealing with setbacks. Injury, dip in performance, being dropped...
But doesnt that mean they are not good enough? You need to have attitude as well as ability. Some lucky breaks are involved for sure, right place at the right time but if you counted up the number of players in South Wales who could have been a proffesional footballer or was good enough to play for the Welsh rugby team it would outnumber the number of Cardiff City fans who went to Rochdale on a cold, wet Tuesday night in the dungeon.Quote:
Originally Posted by MacAdder
In Darcy Blakes case if he didnt choose the lifestyle he choose ie drink and drugs then maybe he could have forged a career in League 1 or 2. He certainly didnt have the kind of stand out ability that Sludge is implying. He couldnt pass water.
Im going to go off on a Blue Matt style tangent here but outside the Gurnos Social Club they have 30 foot banners of Merthyrs favourite sporting sons. The chap from out of the area who bought the club thought it would be a nice touch. Jonny Owen, Howard Winstone, Kerry Hope (Boxers who won World or European titles), Rob Sidoli (Welsh rugby international) and....Darcy ****ing Blake :hehe:. Its bizarre.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tuerto
Blake wasnt anything special compared to many footballers from Merthyr whove had decent pro careers, isnt even from Merthyr and yet Jason Bowen and Mark Pembridge are actually from the Gurnos Estate and in Pembridge case had a terrific career and actually lived 50 yards from the club!?!? Most insulting.
Talking of Pembridge and ability and attitude, he got every drop out of the ability he had because he had the right attitude. There are many players in Merthyr around the same age who reckoned they were better junior players than Pembridge and still say he wasnt anything special:hehe: They could have made it if they didnt hit the booze, chasing women.etc if you listen to them but they havent had 50+ caps for Wales and had a career playing for the likes of Everton and Benfica.
When Chris Wilder come out with his comments a couple of weeks ago I chuckled to myself and thought of Pembridge.
They must be getting the Declan John one readyQuote:
Originally Posted by J R Hartley
Gerrard is 34 now and only played 10 games for Chesterfield last season. I can see why.
Blake was a very talented utility player and he could certainly pass, could have been a decent championship player .....in fact .....he was !Quote:
Originally Posted by J R Hartley
Another merthyr boy whose name escapes me wound up the North Bank by doing the ayatollah in front of them after scoring a goal ......from pentrebach
Wonder what happened to him ....went to Yeovil I think ........ask your spurs mates
Darcy Blake? That's bizzare! Ithought he was from the Blackwood area. I'm with you completely, attitude and discipline are as important as being able to control the ball or make a pass, if a players discipline isn't in order then they're not good enough. A case in point, Leon jeanne simply wasn't good enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by J R Hartley
pembridge was pretty talented as well, hell of a left foot on him.Quote:
Originally Posted by J R Hartley
https://youtu.be/2VvQTLJyywQ
Tredegar I thinkQuote:
Originally Posted by Tuerto
What, no Derek Showers? :shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by J R Hartley
I'm pretty sure he makes every single word of it up, he knows no one's going to checkQuote:
Originally Posted by Tuerto