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				Originally Posted by  xsnaggle  
What I may or may not be is none of your business and not relevant to what I said.
 It's a fact that all the people on here who say that people who vote conservative are stupid and stupid people shouldn't be allowed to vote are all labour supporters.
 It seems like they all want an electoral system where you either vote labour or you are not allowed to vote. That reminds me of soviet communism. But then Sludge, that is the kind of society you aspire to live in. clearly, (and luckily for you) because you were never in the position of actually having to live in it. For your sake as well as mine I hope you never have to.
 
 
 
 people who are tories are always saying its none of your business who I vote for
 
 Its a giveaway , raving tory
 
 You know it and I know it 😏
 
 
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				Originally Posted by  SLUDGE FACTORY  
people who are tories are always saying its none of your business who I vote for 
 
 Its a giveaway , raving tory
 
 You know it and I know it 😏
 
 
 
 And you're a raving left wing pro communist fellow traveller safe in the knowledge he will never actually have to endure the nightmare of the utopia he aspires to.if you knew the reality you'd run as far away as you could as fast as you could
 
 
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		bloke's just another **** 
 
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				Originally Posted by  the other bob wilson  
Imagine what it would have been like if Corbyn had won eh. 
 
 
 In all honesty, would you have wanted that?
 Really?
 Honestly?
 
 
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				Originally Posted by  xsnaggle  
In all honesty, would you have wanted that?
 Really?
 Honestly?
 
 
 
 I would've loved it :thumbup:
 
 
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				Originally Posted by  xsnaggle  
And you're a raving left wing pro communist fellow traveller safe in the knowledge he will never actually have to endure the nightmare of the utopia he aspires to.if you knew the reality you'd run as far away as you could as fast as you could 
 
 
 confirmed
 
 Silly fecking tory
 
 I knew we would get there in the end
 
 
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		So Hancock, a strong pro lockdown voice who has long been the fall guy, is out of the cabinet and replaced by someone pushing to end restrictions "asap", all due to footage leaked to a newspaper whose political editor used to go out with the PM's wife?  Purely coincidental I'm sure
 
 https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics...soon-possible/
 
 
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		He, was a great batsman fair play. A  bit fiery. Ex Glamorgan. 😂😂 
 
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				Originally Posted by  dandywarhol  
He, was a great batsman fair play. A  bit fiery. Ex Glamorgan. 😂😂 
 
 
 Javid Megrandad
 
 Used to roll about with a lady on the grass behind Sophia Gardens listening to Javed sort out bowlers with his wood
 
 
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				Originally Posted by  SLUDGE FACTORY  
confirmed 
 
 Silly fecking tory
 
 I knew we would get there in the end
 
 
 
 And  stupid mantra chanting left wing clown who wishes for something that he hopes in reality he never gets. I promise you you would not like it so just give it up. you're in yesterworld and its all bad.
 and much as you try, trying to use words like tory as an insult doesn't work, just like using opera and ballet doesn't it just shows you are obsessed with a class war in your own head, dummy!!
 
 
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				Originally Posted by  SLUDGE FACTORY  
I cannot be envious of people who think of the coin before peoples health and welfare  
 
 
 how do you have a strong health and welfare system if you do not have a strong economy?
 
 Generally, left wing policies are bad for the economy, certainly in a global market place. If only there was a way to be economically right wing and socially left wing?
 
 
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				Originally Posted by  the other bob wilson  
Imagine what it would have been like if Corbyn had won eh. 
 
 
 it would have been like lockdown but only worse.
 
 
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				Originally Posted by  xsnaggle  
And  stupid mantra chanting left wing clown who wishes for something that he hopes in reality he never gets. I promise you you would not like it so just give it up. you're in yesterworld and its all bad.
 and much as you try, trying to use words like tory as an insult doesn't work, just like using opera and ballet doesn't it just shows you are obsessed with a class war in your own head, dummy!!
 
 
 
 I always knew despite your continually denial and your obvious attack on anything left of centre that you were a raving tory boy
 
 I don't care whether you or your wife have experience of living in the Eastern bloc its totally irrelevant to modern Western social democratic policy
 
 In fact the recent attack on the welfare state by your lot could easily be taking place in communist countries and states you think people like me support
 
 The sooner that the Labour Party disband , get rid of corban,  Abbott and the other idiots and we get a decent alternative to your lot , the better .
 
 If that makes me a socialist communist dreamer then clearly you need to sort your head out
 
 
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				Originally Posted by  Feedback  
how do you have a strong health and welfare system if you do not have a strong economy?
 
 Generally, left wing policies are bad for the economy, certainly in a global market place. If only there was a way to be economically right wing and socially left wing?
 
 
 
 are you saying that the conservatives are doing a good job of running the economy ?
 
 Tell me you are joking
 
 You don't have to have a right wing economic policy to provide health and welfare .
 
 Right wing economic policy almost always leads to a contraction on health and welfare . The only reason why spending on health and welfare goes up during times of economic hardship is because failure to do so would lead to rioting and disorder .
 
 
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				Originally Posted by  Feedback  
it would have been like lockdown but only worse. 
 
 
 At least the nurses who saved our lives would have got a decent pay rise
 
 The tories really are wankers
 
 
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				Originally Posted by  dandywarhol  
He, was a great batsman fair play. A  bit fiery. Ex Glamorgan.  
 
 
 Bet he wont be caught leg before or over
 
 
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				Originally Posted by  SLUDGE FACTORY  
At least the nurses who saved our lives would have got a decent pay rise 
 
 The tories really are wankers
 
 
 
 Worth a peak
 
 https://images.nursinganswers.net/nu...bands-2021.png
 
 
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				Originally Posted by  life on mars  
 
 
 They don't earn much at all then considering what they do and the training
 
 
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				Originally Posted by  dandywarhol  
Health Secretary for England. This is Wales. 
 
 
 And your point is?
 
 
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				Originally Posted by  SLUDGE FACTORY  
I always knew despite your continually denial and your obvious attack on anything left of centre that you were a raving tory boy 
 
 I don't care whether you or your wife have experience of living in the Eastern bloc its totally irrelevant to modern Western social democratic policy
 
 In fact the recent attack on the welfare state by your lot could easily be taking place in communist countries and states you think people like me support
 
 The sooner that the Labour Party disband , get rid of corban,  Abbott and the other idiots and we get a decent alternative to your lot , the better .
 
 If that makes me a socialist communist dreamer then clearly you need to sort your head out
 
 
 
 you're a fecking idiot.
 
 
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				Originally Posted by  xsnaggle  
you're a fecking idiot. 
 
 
 right back at you
 
 
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				Originally Posted by  SLUDGE FACTORY  
They don't earn much at all then considering what they do and the training 
 
 
 Some of those top bands are  fairly  paid , amazingly there are  12 pay band.
 
 From band 5 its 30.6k rising to thee to band 9 which is £104k pa
 
 
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				Originally Posted by  Hilts  
Yeah the whole front bench and the utter bufoon who leads thems feck off and resign.
 
 But utter bufoons put an x by their names at elections
 
 We are fecked.
 
 
 
 Politics seems finished in the UK. Anyone putting an X in the box for Kier Starmer would also be voting for utter buffoons
 
 
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				Originally Posted by  DubaiDai  
Politics seems finished in the UK. Anyone putting an X in the box for Kier Starmer would also be voting for utter buffoons 
 
 
 I don't disagree , he's hopeless as are most of his top team
 
 
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				Originally Posted by  SLUDGE FACTORY  
I don't disagree , he's hopeless as are most of his top team 
 
 
 Its very sad there is no real opposition .
 
 I know you not supposed to mention the Blair name or Blairsim around Labour and it supporters however surely some must wonder some form of that politics maybe more successful and making a better fist of this .
 
 If only they had gone for David Miliband what would that look like now , would Brexit have happened , would the red wall still be there , would he win seats in Scotland to stop the march of Scottish nationalism ??