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Re: Wales considering renaming as Cymru
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Originally Posted by
dml1954
So change the name of the national team, in a country where only about 30% of the population speak the language. Very clever. Almost as idiotic as changing all the road signs.
30? No where near, 10% maybe
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Re: Wales considering renaming as Cymru
I think football should renamed as bodyball (minus the arms).
The Bodyball Association of Cymru has a nice ring to it.
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Re: Wales considering renaming as Cymru
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Originally Posted by
Sloop_Jon_Bee
I think the FAW should be concentrating on the massive upcoming event in Qatar rather than pushing the Cymru over Wales thing. It doesn't bother me either way Wales or Cymru, but i would lean on keeping it as Wales as this is what people around the world know it as. What does bother me by this release from FAW is why are they not concentrating on the World Cup tournament, instead of getting involved with shit outside of football.
Spedger
Well it will be translated around the world, nobody knows it as Wales outside English Speaking countries. It'll still be (Pays De) Gal·les where i live.
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Re: Wales considering renaming as Cymru
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Originally Posted by
dml1954
So change the name of the national team, in a country where only about 30% of the population speak the language. Very clever. Almost as idiotic as changing all the road signs.
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Originally Posted by
goats
30? No where near, 10% maybe
dml1954 might be right for once!
The (2011) census determined that 18.56% of the population could speak Welsh and 14.57% could speak, read and write in the language.
The most recent Annual Population Survey (June 2020), as conducted by the Office for National Statistics, suggests that 28.6% of people in Wales aged three and over were able to speak Welsh.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...Welsh-speakers
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Re: Wales considering renaming as Cymru
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Originally Posted by
jon1959
dml1954 might be right for once!
The (2011) census determined that 18.56% of the population could speak Welsh and 14.57% could speak, read and write in the language.
The most recent Annual Population Survey (June 2020), as conducted by the Office for National Statistics, suggests that 28.6% of people in Wales aged three and over were able to speak Welsh.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...Welsh-speakers
Dml may be even closer than that! 29.7% as of year ending June 2022. Seems a little high to me tbh
https://gov.wales/welsh-language-dat...2021-june-2022
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Re: Wales considering renaming as Cymru
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
I have never ever heard anyone call Wales Cymru in a football sense
Maybe in print but even then it's rare
It's Wales ff sake
Are you going to the Wales game , isn't it fantastic to see Wales in euro 2016 , bloody hell Wales gave Belgium a stuffing , I wonder if Bale is going to help Wales get to the world Cup?
Why do you care what our country is called in a football sense?
You are always so keen to tell us how it’s City first, Wales 2nd and you couldn’t really care for international football?
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Re: Wales considering renaming as Cymru
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Originally Posted by
Sloop_Jon_Bee
I think the FAW should be concentrating on the massive upcoming event in Qatar rather than pushing the Cymru over Wales thing. It doesn't bother me either way Wales or Cymru, but i would lean on keeping it as Wales as this is what people around the world know it as. What does bother me by this release from FAW is why are they not concentrating on the World Cup tournament, instead of getting involved with shit outside of football.
Spedger
The FAW will have to rebrand as FAC.
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Re: Wales considering renaming as Cymru
Once you know the meaning Wales does have a somewhat negative connotation, although I’m not too bothered with it being used personally. Likewise, Cymru has a more positive meaning and I’m likewise happy with its use. Either/or is fine by me.
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Re: Wales considering renaming as Cymru
I have no issue with changing the official name to Cymru, it is after all the name of our country in the original language.
It also has the secondary affect of winding up the English nationalists in this Telegraph article.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football...les-world-cup/
Mind you reading some of the comments on this forum and the comments on the article, it appears there are some kindred spirits.
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Re: Wales considering renaming as Cymru
I think there should be a compromise.
We should keep the English language but change the team's name to Wails reminding everyone how some of the support just love acting all hysterical like the people who comment in the Daily Mail.
Haven't they been referred to as Cymru in all the home games by stadium announcer?
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Re: Wales considering renaming as Cymru
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Originally Posted by
Jordi Culé
I think there should be a compromise.
We should keep the English language but change the team's name to Wails reminding everyone how some of the support just love acting all hysterical like the people who comment in the Daily Mail.
Haven't they been referred to as Cymru in all the home games by stadium announcer?
It's from the Guardian?
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Re: Wales considering renaming as Cymru
As the nomenclature 'Wales' is cognate with Wallachia (part of Romania), Wallonia (Southern Belgium) and Cornwall and effectively means 'stranger' or 'foreigner', it makes sense to adopt the name bestowed upon us by our own culture rather than a description foisted upon us by those not from these islands.
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Stick to the name the majority of the country have called it since they were in primary school... Wales.
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Germany v Deutschland anyone?
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There’s some right weird herbs in here fair play. If this is all you have to get upset about then you need to get a life.
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Re: Wales considering renaming as Cymru
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Originally Posted by
79blue
I have no issue with changing the official name to Cymru, it is after all the name of our country in the original language.
It also has the secondary affect of winding up the English nationalists in this Telegraph article.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football...les-world-cup/
Mind you reading some of the comments on this forum and the comments on the article, it appears there are some kindred spirits.
“The team should always be called Cymru, that's what we call it here,” Mooney told the Press Association. "Our view at the moment is that domestically we're clearly called Cymru. That's what we call our national teams."
Thats bollocks mind isn't it. If by 'here' he means Wales, as in the country..
I don't know anyone who has ever called the team Cymru in the English language.
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Re: Wales considering renaming as Cymru
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Originally Posted by
JamesWales
“The team should always be called Cymru, that's what we call it here,” Mooney told the Press Association. "Our view at the moment is that domestically we're clearly called Cymru. That's what we call our national teams."
Thats bollocks mind isn't it. If by 'here' he means Wales, as in the country..
I don't know anyone who has ever called the team Cymru in the English language.
You're absolutely right. It is complete bollocks.
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Re: Wales considering renaming as Cymru
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Originally Posted by
Des Parrot
Germany v Deutschland anyone?
The Germani were a particular collection of tribes and the word 'Deutsch' is considered to have come from a German word that means 'folk'.
Some Latin languages and Welsh use names for Germany that relate to the Alemmani tribes (Allemagne etc) and some Baltic languages relate to the Saxon tribes (Saksa in Finnish). Eastern European languages use a word for Germany that meant in their respective languages 'non-speaker i.e Niemcy/Německ/Nemecko (Polish, Czech and Slovak respectively).
In what is a large country, its identity is associated either with different tribes or being foreign.
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Re: Wales considering renaming as Cymru
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Originally Posted by
JamesWales
“The team should always be called Cymru, that's what we call it here,” Mooney told the Press Association. "Our view at the moment is that domestically we're clearly called Cymru. That's what we call our national teams."
Thats bollocks mind isn't it. If by 'here' he means Wales, as in the country..
I don't know anyone who has ever called the team Cymru in the English language.
I think he means the FAW when he says that's what we call it here. He sounds like another jobsworth trying to justify his position.
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Re: Wales considering renaming as Cymru
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Originally Posted by
UNDERHILL1927
There’s some right weird herbs in here fair play. If this is all you have to get upset about then you need to get a life.
You think it's insignificant the way in which your country is addressed?
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Re: Wales considering renaming as Cymru
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Originally Posted by
Des Parrot
Germany v Deutschland anyone?
5-4 after penalties.
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Re: Wales considering renaming as Cymru
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Originally Posted by
Rock_Flock_of_Five
You think it's insignificant the way in which your country is addressed?
Why shouldn’t a country be addressed in the name of its own language?
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Re: Wales considering renaming as Cymru
Welsh football fans are revered the world over for the passion in which we sing the national anthem but don’t dare call the team by it’s welsh language name :hehe:
We will be singing GSTK before games it was left up to some of the bootlickers on here.
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Re: Wales considering renaming as Cymru
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Originally Posted by
J R Hartley
Why shouldn’t a country be addressed in the name of its own language?
The World Cup draw would be a nightmare.
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Re: Wales considering renaming as Cymru
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Originally Posted by
UNDERHILL1927
Got to be fishing here.
I’d do the same ….. English mother and grandparents, English wife , Welsh Speaking son.
quite like France too as French ancestors