Johnny Marr , Cardiff , Radio One Music Festival Or Whatever It's Called

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Originally Posted by NYCBlue

And you know this how?

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I know because page , Gilmour, hendrix , Harrison, iommi etc are almost always listed by other guitarists as influential across genres and generations

Marr was good at what he did but he's never going to be remembered as a great

And that's the way it is

I've asked this question before on here. What do brilliant musicians do that ordinary musicians can't? What are the nuances that our music aficionados seem to be able to see but i most certainly can't. I enjoy the sound, but have no idea what is really good and what isn't.

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Originally Posted by Tuerto

I've asked this question before on here. What do brilliant musicians do that ordinary musicians can't? What are the nuances that our music aficionados seem to be able to see but i most certainly can't. I enjoy the sound, but have no idea what is really good and what isn't.

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In terms of this topic , it's not about who can play the fastest or most difficult notes , it's about the sound or at least in my opinion it is

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

In terms of this topic , it's not about who can play the fastest or most difficult notes , it's about the sound or at least in my opinion it is

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I mean in terms of technique. I can tell a decent footballer by their shape, touch, vision etc, most of us can, because we have watched loads of it. But Musicians? Maybe it's nothing like sport in terms of individual brilliance, but the sound is the thing that makes the difference. Would be interested to know from those who can play a bit.

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

In terms of this topic , it's not about who can play the fastest or most difficult notes , it's about the sound or at least in my opinion it is

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Randy Rhoads was a fine plucker.

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Originally Posted by Tuerto

I mean in terms of technique. I can tell a decent footballer by their shape, touch, vision etc, most of us can, because we have watched loads of it. But Musicians? Maybe it's nothing like sport in terms of individual brilliance, but the sound is the thing that makes the difference. Would be interested to know from those who can play a bit.

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That wouldn't include me then

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Originally Posted by valleys caveman

Randy Rhoads was a fine plucker.

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Indeed, what a song crazy train was

Ozzy was hopeless as a solo artist but often had great guitarists backing him up

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

That wouldn't include me then

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Yeah, i don't even know if i'm talking any sense.

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Originally Posted by Tuerto

Yeah, i don't even know if i'm talking any sense.

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Put it this way a lot of people think rock music fans listen to music that is fast or technically very difficult but it's really about the sound

Some of the most amazing guitar sounds are easy to play and very simple

That little ditty in my life by the beatles for example

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

Indeed, what a song crazy train was

Ozzy was hopeless as a solo artist but often had great guitarists backing him up

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Wasn't Randy plucking Sharon?
I've watched a few Ozzy interviews about RR's untimely death, and Ozzy is always very complementary towards RR.

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Originally Posted by valleys caveman

Wasn't Randy plucking Sharon?
I've watched a few Ozzy interviews about RR's untimely death, and Ozzy is always very complementary towards RR.

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If he was he was my deepest sympathies

I think Ozzy and most people in rock music held RR in high esteem , he was a very gifted guitarist

Met his namesake in Tenerife last January, John Marr, ex Partick Thistle, Greenock Morton. Had a few pints with him over a few nights, asked me how Gerry Byrne was getting on. He’d played with him in Scottish junior football. He, obviously, wished he had a quid for every time he was asked how Morrissey was getting on.

anyway found a suitable alternative take it away Rick Astley & Blossoms !

takes 3 guitar players doing what johnny was doing back in the day

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aH-OGtN6Opo

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

I know because page , Gilmour, hendrix , Harrison, iommi etc are almost always listed by other guitarists as influential across genres and generations

Marr was good at what he did but he's never going to be remembered as a great

And that's the way it is

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No, it isn't. I'll give you Hendrix, possibly Gilmore. But the rest of them are just a bunch of shredders. Good at what they do but can't write a decent song for toffee. Johnny Marr is already heralded as great. And will be remembered as one too. Just google what other guitarists have to say about him.

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Originally Posted by NYCBlue

No, it isn't. I'll give you Hendrix, possibly Gilmore. But the rest of them are just a bunch of shredders. Good at what they do but can't write a decent song for toffee. Johnny Marr is already heralded as great. And will be remembered as one too. Just google what other guitarists have to say about him.

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Yes it is

He was a guitarist in an indie student band

Jimmy Page , Hendrix , Pete Townsend ......Great rock guitarists

Marr was in a band that was league one compared to those boys

British indie music throws up some good bands and some good guitarists but the Smiths and Marr are not rock greats .

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Originally Posted by NYCBlue

You couldn't name a better guitarist than Johnny Marr.

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Duane Eddy!