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Re: Gareth Southgate Is A Gent
The English FA can afford the best manager money could buy if they really wanted to win it.
Nice guy, naive manager.
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Re: Gareth Southgate Is A Gent
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
Top international sides win things
France , Spain , Argentina , Portugal , Brazil , Belgium , Germany
And that's it
Remind me what Belgium have won again?
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Re: Gareth Southgate Is A Gent
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Originally Posted by
J R Hartley
The English FA can afford the best manager money could buy if they really wanted to win it.
Nice guy, naive manager.
I don't buy that at international level. Chris Coleman got us to the semis of Euro 2016. Would any top international side take a punt on Coleman? No.
Do I reckon the best manager in the world would have got England to have beaten France tonight? No.
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Originally Posted by
Eric the Half a Bee
I don't buy that at international level. Chris Coleman got us to the semis of Euro 2016. Would any top international side take a punt on Coleman? No.
Do I reckon the best manager in the world would have got England to have beaten France tonight? No.
I think this is a fair assessment. It pains me to say it but after France scored their 1st, England were the better side for much of the game.
It doesn't pain me to see them go out, though :hehe:
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Originally Posted by
superfeathers
I think this is a fair assessment. It pains me to say it but after France scored their 1st, England were the better side for much of the game.
It doesn't pain me to see them go out, though :hehe:
They were. France had the moments of quality when it mattered. France were defensively stupid and could have cost themselves a semi final place.
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Re: Gareth Southgate Is A Gent
christ almighty...welsh on here defending the english sides loss like it meant something.
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Originally Posted by
ToTaL ITK
christ almighty...welsh on here defending the english sides loss like it meant something.
Not sure what you mean.
If you watch that game as a neutral, France dominated the game until their first goal. Then England really took over the game.
When England scored France went at it again.
I was hoping France would win the game but being Welsh doesn't mean you can't watch what is happening in front of you
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Re: Gareth Southgate Is A Gent
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
Top international sides win things
France , Spain , Argentina , Portugal , Brazil , Belgium , Germany
And that's it
Belgium?
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Re: Gareth Southgate Is A Gent
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Originally Posted by
Canton Kev
Belgium?
Just a slip of the keyboard
Still better than England
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Re: Gareth Southgate Is A Gent
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Originally Posted by
Eric the Half a Bee
I don't buy that at international level. Chris Coleman got us to the semis of Euro 2016. Would any top international side take a punt on Coleman? No.
Do I reckon the best manager in the world would have got England to have beaten France tonight? No.
That’s your opinion and you’re welcome to it but o respectfully disagree.
England should be winning major trophies with their talent. Wales are never going to be on same ball park.
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J R Hartley
That’s your opinion and you’re welcome to it but o respectfully disagree.
England should be winning major trophies with their talent. Wales are never going to be on same ball park.
They didn't create many chances for a team that should be winning major trophies. Thought they were poor in the business end.
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J R Hartley
That’s your opinion and you’re welcome to it but o respectfully disagree.
England should be winning major trophies with their talent. Wales are never going to be on same ball park.
Do you think any England players would get into a let's call it world class 11 ?
I don't think so and that's the problem . England .....I mean the fans , the pundits and the media ......THINK players like Kane are world class ?
They don't have enough players to turn games
That cross into the 6 yard box for the France header tonight ? Perfect
England had lots of possession but they didn't produce enough of that sort of clear chances
They are a good side but not quite clinical or classy enough
I am not crying over it , we are unlikely to ever compete with England but they are not football giants either
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Alfresco
They didn't create many chances for a team that should be winning major trophies. Thought they were poor in the business end.
That's my view as well
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superfeathers
Not sure what you mean.
If you watch that game as a neutral, France dominated the game until their first goal. Then England really took over the game.
When England scored France went at it again.
I was hoping France would win the game but being Welsh doesn't mean you can't watch what is happening in front of you
You live in the UK i don't My experience of english"ex pats" is that they think the are the best in the world and i'm very happy to see them fail.and fail and fail.
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They have Jude Bellingham. If people can't see what a talent he is then I'm not sure what is needed to qualify as such. He's an incredible player already and I can only wish that Wales had somebody half as good.
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Harry Bosch
They have Jude Bellingham. If people can't see what a talent he is then I'm not sure what is needed to qualify as such. He's an incredible player already and I can only wish that Wales had somebody half as good.
He's a very good prospect but he's not Messi
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SLUDGE FACTORY
Kane is never as good as Giroud
Really good players are not world class tournament winners
England have a good work ethic but do not have enough to trouble the top table
Every time they come up against a really good side they get dumped out
For the recent euros England beat Germany before losing to Italy and Germany were poor
Kane is clearly better than Giroud - he's played well this tournament, but nothing to show for it.
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SLUDGE FACTORY
He's a very good prospect but he's not Messi
who is?
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Rjk
Kane is clearly better than Giroud - he's played well this tournament, but nothing to show for it.
He's clearly not
He's a good player but he's not world class
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Canton Kev
Belgium?
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superfeathers
Not sure what you mean.
If you watch that game as a neutral, France dominated the game until their first goal. Then England really took over the game.
When England scored France went at it again.
I was hoping France would win the game but being Welsh doesn't mean you can't watch what is happening in front of you
Yes England were the better side for most of the game, but a couple of moments of quality and France won - it happens, but I think the English can hold their heads up high, no disgrace in losing a tight game against a quality opposition. If England had won thy would now be big favourites for the trophy, as it it, France will probably win it now.
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SLUDGE FACTORY
There are some world class players in that tournament
The problem for England is they don't have any of them
:hehe:
Saka apart, nail on the head.
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Rjk
who is?
Bellingham is no .......insert really great players name here .......
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Re: Gareth Southgate Is A Gent
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Rjk
Yes England were the better side for most of the game, but a couple of moments of quality and France won - it happens, but I think the English can hold their heads up high, no disgrace in losing a tight game against a quality opposition. If England had won thy would now be big favourites for the trophy, as it it, France will probably win it now.
I would laugh myself to death if they lost to Morocco 🇲🇦
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Originally Posted by
Canton Kev
Belgium?
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
Bellingham is no .......insert really great players name here .......
only 19 and standing out in a side full of established champions league level players is seriously impressive,
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Re: Gareth Southgate Is A Gent
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Rjk
only 19 and standing out in a side full of established champions league level players is seriously impressive,
What's the Belgium link ?
You are believing the hype if you think he's seriously impressive , if he performs again in the next euros then maybe