Given how high he can hoist his trousers, I dare say he hasn't got a couple of quarter pounders swinging away down below....Quote:
Originally Posted by goats
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Given how high he can hoist his trousers, I dare say he hasn't got a couple of quarter pounders swinging away down below....Quote:
Originally Posted by goats
I can certainly see why Dalman's firm with their virtually guaranteed return on their investment are interested.Quote:
Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie
I wouldn't use the word happy but I'm not against him.
I'd assume most people are in the same boat.
All the hate stems from a few poor managerial choices (and as such player recruitment), but ones many on here agreed with at the time.
You're apparently missing the fact that Mehmet Dalman was brought into the club more than a decade ago by Vincent Tan and elevated to the position of Chairman by Tan, while Ken Choo is merely one of Tan's stooges - an employee who does what he's told.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cardiff-Cal
Make no mistake, it's Tan who controls CCFC, not his subordinates.
Yeah, that's all it is....Quote:
Originally Posted by WJ99mobile
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I can't imagine one set of fans would be jealous of our change of colour from blue to red, I went along with it but when questioned by anyone you just had to agree, it was ridiculous and caused so much harm to the club.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cardiff-Cal
The Sala case has been another stick to beat us with and could have been handled so much better.
Add in a total lack of communication with the fans and putting a car salesman and a bean counter in charge of the club yer I guess there's rivers of jealousy up and down the country.
Sala transfer. Why did Tan say yes to Warnock when the transfer committee had aleady opposed it. Biggest mistake in the history of CCFC ?
From Tan's point of view I believe it's a lack of trust in football people to protect his investment in the club that's the issue. Having had his fingers burnt by some poor expensive purchases by Malky and Warnock, he is probably reluctant to employ a DoF/Advisor, believing incorrectly that he can steer the club in the right direction without any outside 'interference'.
It is surprising though that he hasn't looked at the success of teams like Brighton and Brentford and tried to emulate the planning that has gone into making them the thriving clubs they are today.
So Tan backed the manager but gets criticised for it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Enoch Mort
Followed by immediate relegations.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hilts
Hasn't he just built a new complex to try and bring through more academy players?Quote:
Originally Posted by Moodybluebird
I'm baffled there seems to be people who still want to support him.
I can't get into this "better the Devil you know" argument. That throws any ambition out of the window and I actually think it's a form of Stockholm syndrome.
I'm not a regular watcher of The Apprentice but the one thing that strikes home whenever a task fails is usually a lack of preparation or research into it. It's usually fatal when candidates on there think they know what they're doing based on gut instinct or misguided belief.Quote:
Originally Posted by Moodybluebird
Tan bought us without knowing a single thing about owning a football club. He's got a board that knows nothing about football. Has he, at any stage, looked at how other successful clubs operate? I doubt it.
Managers always seem to rate Dalman highly, but I wonder if that's down to Dalman not having a scooby doo and gives managers some sort of free reign, as much as Tan will allow, anyway?
I'm not sure why Tan gets criticism for the signing. I can see why he is criticised for how they've dealt with it after.Quote:
Originally Posted by WJ99mobile
Warnock was simply asking for a striker he thought might help keep us up. Nobody was to know what was to come.
Any promotion to the PL was a mere pipedream before Tan’s funding (Yes we were close when he joined but likely to go to the wall let’s be honest). Any anti Tan sentiment never comes with a solution. Who else is interested in investment ?Quote:
Originally Posted by sneggyblubird
It does come with a solution. Shape up or actively look to sell the club. People will buy a club with potential at the right price.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave Blue
If he doesn't have a serious rethink then we may be in a worse place than before he arrived very soon.
The argument that all debts are payable to him isn't rhe case anymore either. If Dalman's firm and the like now want their pound of flesh they can and will.
We need a club strategy an identity and something like a Director of Football (on the Board and reporting direct to the owner) who can plan, recruit, oversee the full age and gender range of club teams - especially the work of the Academy - and ensure that there is continuity and progression whenever a manager leaves (is poached by a Premier League club for eye-watering compensation).Quote:
Originally Posted by Undercoverinwurzelland
There were a couple of times when Tan seemed open to that approach - when Glenn Roeder came in as an advisor and when Slade was given that Head of Football (?) title after he was sacked. Neither lasted long and the Slade one looked like a ‘soften the blow’ non job - although maybe he could have made something of it if he hadn’t left for another go at management?
Is Tan’s mam still around to nudge him in the right direction?
12 consecutive years in the Championship or above under his ownership, mostly competing at the top end. Plus all the charitable work he has done in the area, including setting up the Cardiff City foundation, raising millions of pounds in the process.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hilts
A cabal of about 20-25 people on this board who hate Tan (and always have) is hardly representative of our fan base either. Most people would have more common sense than that.
Tan must be a brilliant business man otherwise he wouldn’t have been so successful. Inspired management choices are likely to have been made by him in his commercial life away from football.
Why doesn’t he learn from his mistakes at Cardiff City - he must have the intelligence to do just this? It is galling this seems not to be the case.
Without his money we would have really struggled- I don’t see anyone else offering £3 million per month to keep us afloat. So far from perfect, reluctantly I am luke warm happy with Tan as we seemingly have no other choice.
A lot of people who hated Tan left when we turned red and haven’t come back ( there was a whole row of season ticket holders behind me who cancelled en masse and very few have returned since). I rarely attended a game in red but came back when we returned to blue. Maybe it’s my age but I’m convinced a little bit of passion for our club died in all of us when he went through with that monstrosity of a decision , even if you carried on going to games, it’s never been the same since. The promotion under Warnock was good but nowhere near the levels of passion I saw for the club in the Dave Jones era and beforeQuote:
Originally Posted by dml1954
And he is paying for that now, no wonder Warnocks not coming back, Tan would probably rather us go downQuote:
Originally Posted by Enoch Mort
Didn’t someone post on here the other day that Brighton are £450 million in debt? I don’t know if that’s actually true as they don’t spend big, in fact I think there team cost less than £50 million, and they sell big also…..Quote:
Originally Posted by Moodybluebird
That's not really the point. We still do not have the planning and recruitment structure in place to help drive the club forward.Quote:
Originally Posted by WJ99mobile