Birmingham Council declares bankruptcy

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05-09-23, 16:07
SLUDGE FACTORY

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Originally Posted by Maurice Swan

Not 40% each year obviously....but it's just like budgeting on home expenditure...just on a larger scale.

Absolute nonsense

No wonder you are living the life of luxury in the dordogne
05-09-23, 16:07
Maurice Swan

Re: Birmingham Council declares bankruptcy

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Originally Posted by Nobody's Rep

So how do you reduce looked after children costs by 40% or the rising costs of elderly care in the community by 40% - things that no high flying private executive can control ?

You reduce overheads...salaries of top execs etc....and other (much) extraneous expenditure...

Not sure what you mean by high flying executive..
05-09-23, 16:10
SLUDGE FACTORY

Re: Birmingham Council declares bankruptcy

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Originally Posted by Nobody's Rep

So how do you reduce looked after children costs by 40% or the rising costs of elderly care in the community by 40% - things that no high flying private executive can control ?

It doesn't affect him so he can make daft comments thinking a 40 percent cut is manageable and all down to left wing waste

Hopefully he hasn't got a proxy vote
05-09-23, 16:10
Maurice Swan

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

Absolute nonsense

No wonder you are living the life of luxury in the dordogne

I live a good life (not luxury) because I planned and lived within my means in the UK...it is called forward planning....maybe that is an alien concept to you...
05-09-23, 16:12
SLUDGE FACTORY

Re: Birmingham Council declares bankruptcy

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Originally Posted by Maurice Swan

You reduce overheads...salaries of top execs etc....and other (much) extraneous expenditure...

Not sure what you mean by high flying executive..

The salaries of chief executives is chicken feed compared to the costs of running a huge local authority subject to central government cuts

Have you been in the sun all day ?
05-09-23, 16:13
SLUDGE FACTORY

Re: Birmingham Council declares bankruptcy

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Originally Posted by Maurice Swan

I live a good life (not luxury) because I planned and lived within my means in the UK...it is called forward planning....maybe that is an alien concept to you...

You silly old tory

Plenty of people live a good life and don't boast about it

Pompous nonsense
05-09-23, 16:19
Maurice Swan

Re: Birmingham Council declares bankruptcy

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

Absolute nonsense

No wonder you are living the life of luxury in the dordogne

I live a good life (not luxury) because I planned and lived within my means in the UK...it is called forward planning....maybe that is an alien concept to you...

Oh and yes I DO have a proxy vote...although when most in South Wales at leat would elect a donkey with a red rosette it makes no difference....

Look..I grew up in a two up two down terrace house in Cymmer,Porth...outside toilet which froze in winter...........my father dug coal in Ynysybwl Colliery by hand....fractured his skull.....leg amputated by accidents in the mines....Don't lecture me on moralities. I moved on and made my life better....

The only decent administration for the Rhondda was when Annie Powell (Communist ) was mayor (and I am NOT advocating communism.)
05-09-23, 16:24
SLUDGE FACTORY

Re: Birmingham Council declares bankruptcy

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Originally Posted by Maurice Swan

I live a good life (not luxury) because I planned and lived within my means in the UK...it is called forward planning....maybe that is an alien concept to you...

Oh and yes I DO have a proxy vote...although when most in South Wales at leat would elect a donkey with a red rosette it makes no difference....

Look..I grew up in a two up two down terrace house in Cymmer,Porth...outside toilet which froze in winter...........my father dug coal in Ynysybwl Colliery by hand....fractured his skull.....leg amputated by accidents in the mines....Don't lecture me on moralities. I moved on and made my life better....

The only decent administration for the Rhondda was when Annie Powell (Communist ) was mayor (and I am NOT advocating communism.)

I am playing the world's smallest violin

You were born in the wrong barn

Thankfully a tory like you is a wasted vote ❎
05-09-23, 16:26
Tuerto

Re: Birmingham Council declares bankruptcy

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Originally Posted by Maurice Swan

I live a good life (not luxury) because I planned and lived within my means in the UK...it is called forward planning....maybe that is an alien concept to you...

Oh and yes I DO have a proxy vote...although when most in South Wales at leat would elect a donkey with a red rosette it makes no difference....

Look..I grew up in a two up two down terrace house in Cymmer,Porth...outside toilet which froze in winter...........my father dug coal in Ynysybwl Colliery by hand....fractured his skull.....leg amputated by accidents in the mines....Don't lecture me on moralities. I moved on and made my life better....

The only decent administration for the Rhondda was when Annie Powell (Communist ) was mayor (and I am NOT advocating communism.)

You were advocating The National Rally a few weeks back.
05-09-23, 16:26
Vindec

Re: Birmingham Council declares bankruptcy

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

The reason for such rampant financial problems since 2010 when your bloody tories came in is the huge reduction in block grant from the government

It's all outlined above for you

Less and less income , more and more demand for services

Now we , ccfc can hopefully compete in the lower half of the championship but with the club not really spending any money we are unlikely to do well

It's the same sort of thing

Isn't the problem in Birmingham due to the fact the Council had been underpaying their female workforce forcing the Council to backpay with the resultant unsustainable debt.
05-09-23, 16:26
Maurice Swan

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

I am playing the world's smallest violin

You were born in the wrong barn

Thankfully a tory like you is a wasted vote ❎

Well..there you go again...sad man.
Is that supposed to mean anything??

No further response..I will leave others to judge.....they know your idiosynchries well...
05-09-23, 16:31
SLUDGE FACTORY

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Originally Posted by Vindec

Isn't the problem in Birmingham due to the fact the Council had been underpaying their female workforce forcing the Council to backpay with the resultant unsustainable debt.

The backpay is part of the situation but the reduction in block grant since 2010 is the key
05-09-23, 16:33
Maurice Swan

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I strongly suggest this should be moved to the Alternative forum if it is to continue.
05-09-23, 16:33
A Quiet Monkfish

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Originally Posted by Tuerto

I work in local government Mo, and i'll tell you this, it's brutal. I work on Housing repairs and we're nailed down to doing the minimum required, even if it looks utter shit and by no fault of the trades person (in most cases) the quality and standard of work is greatly compromised. It's demoralising not just for the operative, but for the Tennant as well. I'm given 4 or 5 hours on a job that needs 2 days in order to do a good job that will last. It's cut to the bone.

Some of this might have helped ....

https://www.itv.com/news/wales/2023-...end-it-in-time

They are, completely fu***ng useless.
05-09-23, 16:34
SLUDGE FACTORY

Re: Birmingham Council declares bankruptcy

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Originally Posted by Maurice Swan

Well..there you go again...sad man.
Is that supposed to mean anything??

No further response..I will leave others to judge.....they know your idiosynchries well...

It means stop being so pompous

Just because you have done well enough to emigrate doesn't mean you can make ridiculous comments about the financial problems of Birmingham City Council based upon your upbringing in Aberdare

Spend a few hours in the shade Mo
05-09-23, 16:39
pipster

Re: Birmingham Council declares bankruptcy

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Originally Posted by WJ99mobile

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-englan...ngham-66715441

I know Birmingham has it's own unique issues but won't be long before we see others go the same way.

Thatchers fault obviously.

Any other Councils gone bust (Lab or Con or Lib Dem ?)
Birmingham council is a basket case - Channel4 of all people , did a documentary on Brum council, Im surprised they lasted this long.

And there was me thinking a Labour run Council was all about fair pay for all - they fecking bang on about it often enough. If they had payed them properly in the first place that would have meant they had no money to spend on the left wing socialist nonsense policies.
05-09-23, 16:39
Maurice Swan

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[QUOTE=SLUDGE FACTORY;5451848]It means stop being so pompous

Just because you have done well enough to emigrate doesn't mean you can make ridiculous comments about the financial problems of Birmingham City Council based upon your upbringing in Aberdare /QUOTE]

that is EXACTLY why I feel able to make financial comments........I have MANAGED things at all stages i n life.... NO further comments....
05-09-23, 16:44
Nobody's Rep

Re: Birmingham Council declares bankruptcy

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Originally Posted by Maurice Swan

You reduce overheads...salaries of top execs etc....and other (much) extraneous expenditure...

Not sure what you mean by high flying executive..

That is not enough detail - sorry

but if you keep reducing staff costs - even top ones you fail to recruit and therefore have bigger problems again - sorry but some of the stuff that councils deal with are not widgets or consumer products - they are human beings and come at a premium cost whether people like it or not
05-09-23, 16:45
Maurice Swan

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We all have different viewpoints...
05-09-23, 16:46
life on mars

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

No Birmingham is labour led

As are most councils that get into financial bother

But it's got nothing to do with that which is the point you were trying to push

But I am afraid you have fallen on your ass

And you think it's nothing to do with poor management, vanity projects, too many staff , sickness levels , no performance or budget responsibilities?? Manchester Police went to special measures , London is a mess , see the trend here
https://www.claims.co.uk/most-compla...glish-councils

Check out who runs the 10 worst by complaints .

Easy to make sweeping generalisation about the alleged political favouring based on ones dislike of a party in all honesty you'd have to be really sure of that and for poor management .

Think you may Labour does run a lot of councils these days and 1 in 10 are in trouble.

Trouble for Labour they are not keen on bad news like wage control , staff numbers , performance and critical funding? They tend to favour 20mph speed limits , green issues , diversity, events , road bumps , changing street names, replacing status, anything really beside the core issues health , policing, education.
05-09-23, 16:49
life on mars

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Lovely run Sheffield a beacon of light :

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-...shire-66305959
Several Sheffield City council staff sacked or resigned over fraud - report
Think the Labour MP went sign for fraud..
05-09-23, 16:51
life on mars

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Phew

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-englan...r-63428147.amp

How embarrassing GMP faced scrutiny after a report revealed a failure to record more than 80,000 crimes in a year.

Chief Constable Stephen Watson, who took over last May, said the force had got back to basic policing.
05-09-23, 16:52
Eric Cartman

Re: Birmingham Council declares bankruptcy

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Originally Posted by Maurice Swan

You reduce overheads...salaries of top execs etc....and other (much) extraneous expenditure...

Not sure what you mean by high flying executive..

I work in a local authority with well over a million residents, no love lost here for chief exec and senior leadership from me but their salaries are pitiful compared with their responsibility. Providing care and maintaining responsibility for the most vulnerable people in society whilst delivering other services across the board. Plenty of problems but high salaries isn't one of them.
05-09-23, 16:55
life on mars

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Another Labour run feck fest

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-politics-65676411

Betsi Cadwaladr: Police considering north Wales NHS investigation
05-09-23, 16:56
Maurice Swan

Re: Birmingham Council declares bankruptcy

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Originally Posted by Eric Cartman

I work in a local authority with well over a million residents, no love lost here for chief exec and senior leadership from me but their salaries are pitiful compared with their responsibility. Providing care and maintaining responsibility for the most vulnerable people in society whilst delivering other services across the board. Plenty of problems but high salaries isn't one of them.

Let's just say they earn more than the Prime Minister......Invariably they are well OVER six figures...........

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