Everton Cup 1977 , modern fitness techniques with CCFC

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Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee

Cardiff City scored 5 or more goals more often under Jimmy Andrews than any City manager this millennium bar Alan Cork, Malky Mackay and Lennie Lawrence.

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Were you watching CCFC in those days ? It really wasn't up to much

Jimmy Andrews refused to take toshack on in any role as he said he wasn't qualified

Toshack said look at what I have won as a player

Toshack says cobblers then and goes to Swansea

Who play brilliant football and soar up the leagues

Tempus Fugit

Everyone who is old enough has memories of the “Villars match” in 73/74 when we faced Palace in our last game knowing one of the two teams would be relegated, but the match which ended 76/77 was exactly the same, yet does not seem as well remembered. Carlisle were the opponents and. Like Palace three years earlier took the leaf (with a great goal as I remember). We were going down at that stage, but Alan Campbell (who later signed for Carlisle) equalised a minute later and we ended up safe although my memory is that Carlisle made it a lot more difficult for us in the closing minutes before their relegation was confirmed- there was a huge scramble in our penalty area in the final minute which ended up in a punch up involving most of the players from both sides.

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

Were you watching CCFC in those days ? It really wasn't up to much

Jimmy Andrews refused to take toshack on in any role as he said he wasn't qualified

Toshack said look at what I have won as a player

Toshack says cobblers then and goes to Swansea

Who play brilliant football and soar up the leagues

Tempus Fugit

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Because Toshack brought some "fading" Liverpool players with him.
They went down the leagues as quickly as they went up.

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Originally Posted by bobh

Because Toshack brought some "fading" Liverpool players with him.
They went down the leagues as quickly as they went up.

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We had been waiting since 1962 for a go at the big boys

Toshack could have done it for us but was rejected by CCFC

It's in the history books

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

Were you watching CCFC in those days ? It really wasn't up to much

Jimmy Andrews refused to take toshack on in any role as he said he wasn't qualified

Toshack said look at what I have won as a player

Toshack says cobblers then and goes to Swansea

Who play brilliant football and soar up the leagues

Tempus Fugit

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I wasn't born for most of his time with us.

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Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee

I wasn't born for most of his time with us.

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A blessing for you

There was much pain

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Originally Posted by tpcnw

Yes he was 20 years old and played at number 2.

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Well I never knew that till now, and I was at the game !!

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

Keystone kops defending and goalkeeping

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Right? I don't remember it like that. He should have been stopped.

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Originally Posted by MacAdder

I always remember Paul Went as a proper Fatty Arbuckle well over weight but after seeing that clip he looks pretty lean.
The rest look exactly how I remember them though.
Great clip.

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Yes, that was how I remember Paul Went too (overweight). But as you say, he doesn't look in bad shape in that video, his legs look well-toned in fact.

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Originally Posted by TWGL1

That’s a super video, amazing that they were expecting 40,000 for this game , and segregation was put into a section of the Bob bank. What was Everton’s support that day apparently they had a rough time, but they are well supported so I’m assuming 4,000 plus?

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A large number of Everton supporters arrived by 'football special'. At the end of the game, there was a football special parked over the Ninian bridge. I doubt if there were any windows left in at least two carriages. Also, Everton fans making their way up the walkway to the halt were easy targets.

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Originally Posted by JumpersforGoalposts

Here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40UoS7YCmy8

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Fair play to Duncan McKenzie, he had the confidence to try and play a bit of football in that quagmire of a goalmouth - most players would have tried to 'leather' the ball instead, but he showed great composure.
I was in the middle of the Grange End that afternoon.

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Originally Posted by NYCBlue

Right? I don't remember it like that. He should have been stopped.

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Well your memory is entirely yours

But he wasn't tackled by a number of defenders and goalkeeper as can be seen by the video

Keystone kops

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Originally Posted by Rock_Flock_of_Five

Fair play to Duncan McKenzie, he had the confidence to try and play a bit of football in that quagmire of a goalmouth - most players would have tried to 'leather' the ball instead, but he showed great composure.
I was in the middle of the Grange End that afternoon.

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There are a number of clips online of his remarkable close control of the ball on shockingly bad pitches.

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Originally Posted by Rock_Flock_of_Five

Fair play to Duncan McKenzie, he had the confidence to try and play a bit of football in that quagmire of a goalmouth - most players would have tried to 'leather' the ball instead, but he showed great composure.
I was in the middle of the Grange End that afternoon.

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Bob bank me.

I agree and of course, we all agree Duncan Mckenzie was magic.

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Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee

Cardiff City scored 5 or more goals more often under Jimmy Andrews than any City manager this millennium bar Alan Cork, Malky Mackay and Lennie Lawrence.

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This is how I remember that era. We were as likely to win by a hat full as we were to lose by the same number. Andrews in particular would choose teams without nearly any central midfielders. Sayer, Giles, Reece, then Grapes would often be 3 of the 4 midfielders with someone like Livermore or Campbell (who were no diggers) trying to hold it together.

And lest we forget the best and most flamboyant City kit ever

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Originally Posted by MacAdder

Bob bank me.

I agree and of course, we all agree Duncan Mckenzie was magic.

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What a player

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

Everyone who is old enough has memories of the “Villars match” in 73/74 when we faced Palace in our last game knowing one of the two teams would be relegated, but the match which ended 76/77 was exactly the same, yet does not seem as well remembered. Carlisle were the opponents and. Like Palace three years earlier took the leaf (with a great goal as I remember). We were going down at that stage, but Alan Campbell (who later signed for Carlisle) equalised a minute later and we ended up safe although my memory is that Carlisle made it a lot more difficult for us in the closing minutes before their relegation was confirmed- there was a huge scramble in our penalty area in the final minute which ended up in a punch up involving most of the players from both sides.

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My late wife came with me for one and only time.
We were on cardiff central after the game.
The palace special pulled out.
This guy comes out of the cafe with a load of drinks and food.he said wheres the train.pointing we said it went that way.