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16-07-24, 13:43
life on mars

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He has done very well , much more successful that some of the bigger gobby managers . true gent .
16-07-24, 13:58
Citizen's Nephew

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Originally Posted by superfeathers

I agree. And he comes across as a lovely guy, I just don't rate him.

Here's one - If you had the option (and I guess to make this one work you need to think of him as being a different nationality?), would you want him in charge of Wales, or City?

Yes!
16-07-24, 14:06
The Lone Gunman

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Originally Posted by J R Hartley

He has plenty of supporters in the media and ex-players. None more so than his mate Stuart Pearce.

No doubt Southgate's had plenty of support and that's not surprising given his achievements by comparison to the England managers who went before him, but I've never had the feeling that he's been especially highly rated.
16-07-24, 14:08
The Lone Gunman

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Originally Posted by Rock_Flock_of_Five

I'd argue that beating the Netherlands in the semi-final was a test.

The Netherlands are currently rated 7th in the FIFA rankings - above Spain.

Strange but true.
16-07-24, 14:11
BLUETIT

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Bring back Big Sam, 100% win record :hehe:
16-07-24, 14:27
Citizen's Nephew

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Nobody I've spoken to want's Potter. I hope they give it to him! :hehe:

....there's a media shoutout for Klopp. If he did get it (want it) then England could win the fkn WC.....I really hope the give it Potter.
16-07-24, 14:32
superfeathers

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Originally Posted by Rjk

he has some strengths - good motivator and building team spirit.
doesn't appear to know how to coach an effective attack out of a very talented bunch of players

A rich mans Bulut if you ask me.

Bit unfair maybe, and hopefully with the right signings Bulut will come good
16-07-24, 14:34
Citizen's Nephew

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https://www.theguardian.com/football...e-jurgen-klopp
16-07-24, 14:56
PhyllisStant

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I think the likes of Guadiola and Klopp are more responsible for the up turn in England’s national performances. The homegrown player development and exposure to world class competition provided Southgate with all the weaponry he needed. Unfortunately he didn’t really know what to do with it.
16-07-24, 15:12
Talksport

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Originally Posted by Rock_Flock_of_Five

I'd argue that beating the Netherlands in the semi-final was a test.

I don't think so. They were only 3rd in their group, then were 2nd best against Turkey.
16-07-24, 15:29
BlueArmy 86

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Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman

Apart from Euro 2020, when they beat Croatia and Germany. And 2024, when they beat the Netherlands.

You say Southgate is overrated. By who?

I wouldn't say any of those teams were top sides at the time they played England. Croatia reliant on a few top players, but a lot of mediocre players, the worst German side in years and an average Dutch side this time around.

The English media/pundits/a lot of fans on TV radio etc. I think this was a tournament too far, and a better coach would've brought better performances, momentum and more chance of winning it.
16-07-24, 16:10
The Lone Gunman

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Originally Posted by BlueArmy 86

I wouldn't say any of those teams were top sides at the time they played England. Croatia reliant on a few top players, but a lot of mediocre players, the worst German side in years and an average Dutch side this time around.

The English media/pundits/a lot of fans on TV radio etc. I think this was a tournament too far, and a better coach would've brought better performances, momentum and more chance of winning it.

I agree with your final sentence, but not with the rest. Your argument about what constitutes a top side is just plain daft. For instance, Croatia finished runners-up in the 2018 World Cup and third in the 2022 World Cup, but apparently were not a top side when England beat them at the 2020 Euros.
16-07-24, 16:11
Der Kaiser

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Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman

Apart from Euro 2020, when they beat Croatia and Germany. And 2024, when they beat the Netherlands.

You say Southgate is overrated. By who?

Germany were not a good side at Euro 2020. The Netherlands weren't in 2024.
16-07-24, 16:13
The Lone Gunman

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Originally Posted by Der Kaiser

Germany were not a good side at Euro 2020. The Netherlands weren't in 2024.

Nobody England beats are a good side. Anyone who beats England are a good side. Them’s the rules.
16-07-24, 16:18
ToTaL ITK

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Originally Posted by pipster

I would have thought Russell Slade will be on their list if possible candidates, he could take them to the next level

Oh behave!!! it will be warnock
16-07-24, 16:19
SLUDGE FACTORY

Re: Southgate gone

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Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman

Nobody England beats are a good side. Anyone who beats England are a good side. Them’s the rules.

I always had you down as a bit of a little Englander

It's been well and truly confirmed
16-07-24, 16:20
SLUDGE FACTORY

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Originally Posted by Packerman

Well Woodbridge actually. Lovely place. Step up from Bridgend that’s for sure.

Is it near the stour ?
16-07-24, 16:26
The Lone Gunman

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

I always had you down as a bit of a little Englander

It's been well and truly confirmed

I’ve long since had you down a fat fraud from Neath. No confirmation necessary.
16-07-24, 16:27
Packerman

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Nope on the river Deben.
16-07-24, 16:38
SLUDGE FACTORY

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Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman

I’ve long since had you down a fat fraud from Neath. No confirmation necessary.

The last time I saw you , you had bigger tits than dolly parton and a double chin

And a shiny bonce xx

🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 Engerland !
16-07-24, 16:38
SLUDGE FACTORY

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Originally Posted by Packerman

Nope on the river Deben.

A bit coastal there but a few bass
16-07-24, 16:48
Packerman

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Lots of beach fishing, shingle or sand my partners son goes. Bit bleak the North Sea 🥶not for me a bit of summer carp fishing maybe
16-07-24, 16:51
SLUDGE FACTORY

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Originally Posted by Packerman

Lots of beach fishing, shingle or sand my partners son goes. Bit bleak the North Sea 🥶not for me a bit of summer carp fishing maybe

There's not much on the east coast

South Wales is great for sea fishing

I like pike and perch fishing when it comes to coarse angling
16-07-24, 16:51
SLUDGE FACTORY

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

The last time I saw you , you had bigger tits than dolly parton and a double chin

And a shiny bonce xx

🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 Engerland !

https://youtu.be/yrpmv_zOa0k?si=C-lsJ_1HCT-BtIqi
16-07-24, 16:57
NottinghamBlue

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

Engerland !

Let me spell it for you, it's Ingurland.

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