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lardy
I guarantee you will not find a post by me like that about the Southport stabbings. Feel free to search my history :thumbup:
The 'whoosh' exchange was me highlighting the irony in your reply, sorry that you missed it.
Offering condolences is fine. Offering condolences and doing nothing to help, and in fact doing more to make it worse, when you are literally the only people who can do something about it, is not fine.
There are hundreds of school shootings in the US. We can use the facts of any of those if you're worried that the blood isn't dry enough on this one.
Glad you agree that offering condolences is fine. That's my point.
I think we both agree that the fact assault weapons are legal is also a fkn disgrace, even within the context of the right to bear arms. I've literally said that already. So we agree there too.
But instantly demanding they be banned when one is used in a mass shooting when millions own and support their ownership just won't work. I wish it would and it would in other countries but it plainly isn't there. The polarisation is massive and having a default setting of politicizing it makes a solution less not more likely.
Theres a tonne of other issues too. Why is this happening more often? Why him? Was there a motive? Why the loose relationship between gun ownership and murders within states? What's the legal definition of arms? What to do with the millions in circulation? Etc etc.
I know you aren't saying its a simple thing, but it really isn't. We all wish it was, but it's not and condemning someone offering condolences after a tragic event doesn't make a solution any closer.
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You say you want strong gun laws but you're vigorously defending the exact people who are working against it happening, even though there's huge public support for it.
I'll admit, your posts in this thread totally baffle me. You seem to be deliberately ignoring that these are the law makers
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Originally Posted by
lardy
You say you want strong gun laws but you're vigorously defending the exact people who are working against it happening, even though there's huge public support for it.
I'll admit, your posts in this thread totally baffle me. You seem to be deliberately ignoring that these are the law makers
No, I'm saying it's a reasonable position to offer condolences to victims families in the immediate aftermath of a tragic event.
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JamesWales
No, I'm saying it's a reasonable position to offer condolences to victims families in the immediate aftermath of a tragic event.
And it was introduced to the thread, not because of the sentiment but because of who was saying it.
Anyway, just waiting for your withdrawal of your Southport stabbing thread comment about me and we can wrap this up.
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the other bob wilson
Shocking politicisation from her. She could have just said ‘thoughts and prayers with the victims’
James will be so angry about this he will probably have to make another 20 posts to tell us!
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the other bob wilson
Let's check what Trump's VP pick has to say about it. Probably something similar, right? Nobody wants school shootings.
Oh...
https://apnews.com/article/jd-vance-...914a4d8a14cd8c
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I see the 14 year old charged with the murders is called Colt Gray - sounds like his future was mapped out for him from birth.
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the other bob wilson
I see the 14 year old charged with the murders is called Colt Gray - sounds like his future was mapped out for him from birth.
Got to be looking at a “45” year stretch :old:
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lardy
If you are a psycho !
This bloke could be vice president
Psycho ? He didn't really say that did he ?
Ffsake
He looks odd mind , jesus eyes 👀
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the other bob wilson
What a top lady 👏
I hate trump and I don't live there
Imagine having that twat on your tv screens
It's incredible that people over here seem to side with him
It's very creepy too
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jon1959
Shocking politicisation from her. She could have just said ‘thoughts and prayers with the victims’
James will be so angry about this he will probably have to make another 20 posts to tell us!
But he will " understand " trump voters 🙄
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the other bob wilson
Wow, pretty colourful language but a powerful and heartfelt appeal from an obviously very concerned mother.
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JamesWales
No, I'm saying it's a reasonable position to offer condolences to victims families in the immediate aftermath of a tragic event.
You're really not though, are you Jim. It's what you do, an extreme act occurs, usually something that the far right (sorry Heathblue) attempt to play down, defend or add reason to, and you play this silly little game for the millionth time, pretending to be mr stand back from the maddening crowd, all reasonable, it's your way of defending these things Jim.
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the other bob wilson
She's correct, it doesn't have to be this way but unfortunately a sizeable proportion of her fellow countrymen have enabled it to be this way with their obsession with guns.
An interesting (recent) article about gun ownership in the USA:
https://www.pewresearch.org/short-re...cans-and-guns/
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Gofer Blue
Wow, pretty colourful language but a powerful and heartfelt appeal from an obviously very concerned mother.
I am glad she swore and told it like it is
Thoughts and prayers......don't mean shit
And she's right ....actions .....firstly not voting for trump , the complete asshole
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SLUDGE FACTORY
I am glad she swore and told it like it is
Thoughts and prayers......don't mean shit
And she's right ....actions .....firstly not voting for trump , the complete asshole
Take a look at the link I posted above. Some interesting statistics about attitudes of Americans to gun ownership depending on their age, location, gender, political leanings etc.
What a combination - Trump and this Vance character! Never mind God bless America, more like God help America. I cannot believe that they could contemplate electing such a duo.
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Gofer Blue
Take a look at the link I posted above. Some interesting statistics about attitudes of Americans to gun ownership depending on their age, location, gender, political leanings etc.
What a combination - Trump and this Vance character! Never mind God bless America, more like God help America. I cannot believe that they could contemplate electing such a duo.
God help the world.
Not that i believe.
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jeepster
God help the world.
Not that i believe.
Yes indeed. As you probably know, I am a believer. As much as I don't want to believe it, I believe we are in the "endtimes" so these events are pretty predictable; but I won't go there lest I be accused of turning every thread into a bible-bashing messianic mission field. :wink:
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Gofer Blue
Take a look at the link I posted above. Some interesting statistics about attitudes of Americans to gun ownership depending on their age, location, gender, political leanings etc.
What a combination - Trump and this Vance character! Never mind God bless America, more like God help America. I cannot believe that they could contemplate electing such a duo.
Pair of nutters
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Gofer Blue
Yes indeed. As you probably know, I am a believer. As much as I don't want to believe it, I believe we are in the "endtimes" so these events are pretty predictable; but I won't go there lest I be accused of turning every thread into a bible-bashing messianic mission field. :wink:
Good man:thumbup:
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Gofer Blue
Yes indeed. As you probably know, I am a believer. As much as I don't want to believe it, I believe we are in the "endtimes" so these events are pretty predictable; but I won't go there lest I be accused of turning every thread into a bible-bashing messianic mission field. :wink:
Spot on, and well done for protecting the fragile.
9/11 for example saw a massive change in awareness for so many; you only had to talk to people to know it.
