Evidence of Extraterrestrial Life could be revealed within the next month

Let's hope they're vegetarians..

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Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish

Let's hope they're vegetarians..

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They may classify us as vegetables though.

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Originally Posted by Dorcus

I'd rather live in hope than despair.

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Generally, who wouldn't?
But why would the discovery of life on another planet make your life/ future any better?

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Originally Posted by truthpaste

Generally, who wouldn't?
But why would the discovery of life on another planet make your life/ future any better?

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Better is a subjective term. Who actually could possibly know until it happens? However, rather than evoking any emotional response, it will certainly shed light upon aspects of experience and the Universe hitherto unknown.

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Originally Posted by Dorcus

I don't think he had a point at all. We would have been up against Manchester United, Liverpool, Arsenal, Bayern Munich, Atletico Madrid etc. and our little offering would pale by comparison. These days we would be behind Brentford, Middlesbrough and Bristol City...yuk!

Anyway, aliens on other planets may not experience colour as we do. For example, red might be experienced in the same way we hear a fart down here

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bit of a whoosh here I think

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Originally Posted by Dorcus

Why on Earth wouldn't it?

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:hehe:

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Originally Posted by delmbox

bit of a whoosh here I think

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Yes we're being dragged back into an old hornet's nest here.

Meanwhile in a parallel universe Cardiff City A.F.C. having won last season's European Cup are currently top of the Premier League table with 24 points from the first 8 games and a goal difference of 20.

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Originally Posted by Dorcus

Better is a subjective term. Who actually could possibly know until it happens? However, rather than evoking any emotional response, it will certainly shed light upon aspects of experience and the Universe hitherto unknown.

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There is no evidence that knowledge leads towards greater hope, in fact often knowing more about our plight can lead to deep despair.
Your hope in finding ET is to point the finger at God and say, "you didn't mention or know about any of these guys, so now I can ignore your words completely."

All the best with that particular delusion.

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Originally Posted by truthpaste

There is no evidence that knowledge leads towards greater hope, in fact often knowing more about our plight can lead to deep despair.
Your hope in finding ET is to point the finger at God and say, "you didn't mention or know about any of these guys, so now I can ignore your words completely."

All the best with that particular delusion.

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Quite so

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Originally Posted by Dorcus

Quite so

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Thanks for your honesty.

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Originally Posted by truthpaste

Your hope in finding ET is to point the finger at God and say, "you didn't mention or know about any of these guys, so now I can ignore your words completely."

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What would your take be on this? it's quite a biggie

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Originally Posted by delmbox

What would your take be on this? it's quite a biggie

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Well if we use the information God has given us, it would be impossible for there to be sentient life anywhere else - I will address this at the end of this post.
This view won't answer other questions like why the Universe is so incredibly big, but we are now looking at a universe that is post 'the fall' - what it looked like before the fall (detailed in Genesis 3) is anyone's guess?
But while we view all this from a broken world, God's perspective is contained in this comment to first century Christians in Rome in Pauls letter to them, Chapter 8 verse 22 - when we read "We know that the whole creation is groaning together and suffering labour pains up until now".
There is much to unpack from this statement, but from it we can see that the curse didn't only impact this planet, but the entire Creation of God, ie everything!
Now for a moment, let us assume that life forms similar to Vulcans exist somewhere in the Universe; why should they ALSO be impacted by a choice made by the first generation of human beings on this rock that we all now inhabit? That would make no sense at all?
So the fact that "the whole creation is groaning" logically rules out any other similar (or intelligent) life-forms to mankind. If you have any follow up questions on this or any other points, please ask away....

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Originally Posted by truthpaste

Well if we use the information God has given us, it would be impossible for there to be sentient life anywhere else - I will address this at the end of this post.
This view won't answer other questions like why the Universe is so incredibly big, but we are now looking at a universe that is post 'the fall' - what it looked like before the fall (detailed in Genesis 3) is anyone's guess?
But while we view all this from a broken world, God's perspective is contained in this comment to first century Christians in Rome in Pauls letter to them, Chapter 8 verse 22 - when we read "We know that the whole creation is groaning together and suffering labour pains up until now".
There is much to unpack from this statement, but from it we can see that the curse didn't only impact this planet, but the entire Creation of God, ie everything!
Now for a moment, let us assume that life forms similar to Vulcans exist somewhere in the Universe; why should they ALSO be impacted by a choice made by the first generation of human beings on this rock that we all now inhabit? That would make no sense at all?
So the fact that "the whole creation is groaning" logically rules out any other similar (or intelligent) life-forms to mankind. If you have any follow up questions on this or any other points, please ask away....

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I don't know if I'm reading this right but it seems like your answer is "it can't be true" isn't it?

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Originally Posted by delmbox

I don't know if I'm reading this right but it seems like your answer is "it can't be true" isn't it?

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What the bible?

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Originally Posted by truthpaste

Well if we use the information God has given us, it would be impossible for there to be sentient life anywhere else - I will address this at the end of this post.
This view won't answer other questions like why the Universe is so incredibly big, but we are now looking at a universe that is post 'the fall' - what it looked like before the fall (detailed in Genesis 3) is anyone's guess?
But while we view all this from a broken world, God's perspective is contained in this comment to first century Christians in Rome in Pauls letter to them, Chapter 8 verse 22 - when we read "We know that the whole creation is groaning together and suffering labour pains up until now".
There is much to unpack from this statement, but from it we can see that the curse didn't only impact this planet, but the entire Creation of God, ie everything!
Now for a moment, let us assume that life forms similar to Vulcans exist somewhere in the Universe; why should they ALSO be impacted by a choice made by the first generation of human beings on this rock that we all now inhabit? That would make no sense at all?
So the fact that "the whole creation is groaning" logically rules out any other similar (or intelligent) life-forms to mankind. If you have any follow up questions on this or any other points, please ask away....

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😱 You cannot be serious Shirley!

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Originally Posted by truthpaste

Well if we use the information God has given us, it would be impossible for there to be sentient life anywhere else - I will address this at the end of this post.
This view won't answer other questions like why the Universe is so incredibly big, but we are now looking at a universe that is post 'the fall' - what it looked like before the fall (detailed in Genesis 3) is anyone's guess?
But while we view all this from a broken world, God's perspective is contained in this comment to first century Christians in Rome in Pauls letter to them, Chapter 8 verse 22 - when we read "We know that the whole creation is groaning together and suffering labour pains up until now".
There is much to unpack from this statement, but from it we can see that the curse didn't only impact this planet, but the entire Creation of God, ie everything!
Now for a moment, let us assume that life forms similar to Vulcans exist somewhere in the Universe; why should they ALSO be impacted by a choice made by the first generation of human beings on this rock that we all now inhabit? That would make no sense at all?
So the fact that "the whole creation is groaning" logically rules out any other similar (or intelligent) life-forms to mankind. If you have any follow up questions on this or any other points, please ask away....

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What if god was just thinking "ah well they'll never meet each other". Like having a girlfriend in another postcode.

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Originally Posted by lardy

What if god was just thinking "ah well they'll never meet each other". Like having a girlfriend in another postcode.

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That still doesn't work, why have the WHOLE OF CREATION including their solar system impacted by a lifeform that has (and will have) nothing to do with them?

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Originally Posted by truthpaste

That still doesn't work, why have the WHOLE OF CREATION including their solar system impacted by a lifeform that has (and will have) nothing to do with them?

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But it is fair for every descendant of "the first generation of human beings on this rock" to be impacted by it?

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Originally Posted by truthpaste

That still doesn't work, why have the WHOLE OF CREATION including their solar system impacted by a lifeform that has (and will have) nothing to do with them?

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Other life forms in other parts of the Universe could be "created" differently and by a different "Creator". We might have an infinite number of "Creators" protecting their own patches. The Battle of the Titans so to speak.

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Originally Posted by lardy

But it is fair for every descendant of "the first generation of human beings on this rock" to be impacted by it?

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This is an excellent question. There are two key aspects when we consider this:-

When we look at God in Scripture we see that He is relational, and we are informed that among His many other attributes, "God is Love". Now as we all know, love MUST involve choice, if it doesn't then it is invalid and worthless.
Therefore God had to give mankind a choice to have a relationship with Him or go His own way; like so many others today, who do the Frank Sinatra thing, they did it their way (MY WAY). The consequences were devastating and as promised, death, disease and disasters followed. Now if that were the end of the story then your issue of fairness would be perfectly sound. However in our plight, God launched a rescue Mission. His arrival we remember at Christmas (not His actual birth day - just the official one), and His key Death & Resurrection we remember at Easter. Which meant that He could now legally offer us a way out of the mess: ie the fact that we each have an eternal soul and we are helpless to save ourselves, even if we decide to become religious - NB!
Many verses explain this solution, and how we can enter into the good of it, this one is found in John's Gospel Chapter 1:

(12) But to all who did receive Him (Jesus), who believed in His name, He gave the right to become children of God, (13) who were born, not of blood nor of the will of the flesh nor of the will of man, but of God.

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Originally Posted by truthpaste

Well if we use the information God has given us

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Go on then, please explain what information "god" has given us...

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Originally Posted by truthpaste

This is an excellent question. There are two key aspects when we consider this:-

When we look at God in Scripture we see that He is relational, and we are informed that among His many other attributes, "God is Love". Now as we all know, love MUST involve choice, if it doesn't then it is invalid and worthless.
Therefore God had to give mankind a choice to have a relationship with Him or go His own way; like so many others today, who do the Frank Sinatra thing, they did it their way (MY WAY). The consequences were devastating and as promised, death, disease and disasters followed. Now if that were the end of the story then your issue of fairness would be perfectly sound. However in our plight, God launched a rescue Mission. His arrival we remember at Christmas (not His actual birth day - just the official one), and His key Death & Resurrection we remember at Easter. Which meant that He could now legally offer us a way out of the mess: ie the fact that we each have an eternal soul and we are helpless to save ourselves, even if we decide to become religious - NB!
Many verses explain this solution, and how we can enter into the good of it, this one is found in John's Gospel Chapter 1:

(12) But to all who did receive Him (Jesus), who believed in His name, He gave the right to become children of God, (13) who were born, not of blood nor of the will of the flesh nor of the will of man, but of God.

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Still a load of bunkem.Made up by man to control the masses.

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Originally Posted by jeepster

Still a load of bunkem.Made up by man to control the masses.

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Absolutely correct, and to conceal the real truth

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Originally Posted by Dorcus

Absolutely correct, and to conceal the real truth

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Ah, the real truth, which would be....?