Oh Tommy Tommy !

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

But the rest of the Muslim community ....

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Isn't his community Christian?

Rwandan Christian parents, and born in Cardiff?

Autistic and wouldn't leave the house for a long time? A loner.

No reports of radicalisation or conversion - maybe 'yet'.

Murder of 3 girls, possession of ricin, and a pdf study of an Al Qaida training manual shows how dangerous he is.

But some people seem desperate for any excuse to declare war on British muslims again.

Jenrick is doing his best impression as the love child of Farage and Yaxley-Lennon. Some cheerleaders here too.

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Originally Posted by Dorcus

Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit lovely boy

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anyway back to the mohammedan's planned chemical attack

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Originally Posted by + the native hipster

anyway back to the mohammedan's planned chemical attack

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My Chemical Romance? Yes they were a great band

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Originally Posted by jon1959

Isn't his community Christian?

Rwandan Christian parents, and born in Cardiff?

Autistic and wouldn't leave the house for a long time? A loner.

No reports of radicalisation or conversion - maybe 'yet'.

Murder of 3 girls, possession of ricin, and a pdf study of an Al Qaida training manual shows how dangerous he is.

But some people seem desperate for any excuse to declare war on British muslims again.

Jenrick is doing his best impression as the love child of Farage and Yaxley-Lennon. Some cheerleaders here too.

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errr , the news?

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Originally Posted by + the native hipster

errr , the news?

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Errr... What about the news?

What have you seen or heard on the news that justifies your 'identity' posts?

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Originally Posted by jon1959

Errr... What about the news?

What have you seen or heard on the news that justifies your 'identity' posts?

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You'd be surprised what rubbish they spew up on GB News, Fox News and Talk sport. Our friend needs to get out more with his/her wad.

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Originally Posted by jon1959

Errr... What about the news?

What have you seen or heard on the news that justifies your 'identity' posts?

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he killed 3 little girls and planned a chemical attack , and you defend that?

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Originally Posted by + the native hipster

he killed 3 little girls and planned a chemical attack , and you defend that?

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Don't be a complete twat.

I am not defending any of that. He committed three brutal murders, produced a supply of ricin and appears to have been reading a military study of an Al Qaida terrorist manual. He is violent and dangerous and thankfully locked up. He is also facing the new charges at Westminster Magistrates' Court on Wednesday:

The teenager accused of murdering three young girls in Southport has been charged with producing the poison ricin and possessing a military study of an al-Qaeda training manual.

Axel Rudakubana, 18, has been charged with production of a biological toxin contrary to Section 1 of the Biological Weapons Act 1974.

He has also been charged with possessing a PDF document of a kind likely to be useful to a person committing to or preparing an act of terrorism, contrary to Section 58 of the Terrorism Act 2000.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c05zpdq0lzgo

But you have decided he is a Muslim, 'a mohammedan', for your own warped political reasons. I am asking you what your evidence is for that.

As far as I can see Axel Rudakubana is a disturbed and very dangerous person from a non-Muslim culture and tradition. He is a loner. He didn't stand out. It doesn't appear that he was a member of any local mosque or Muslim community. If he was, the news reports I have seen don't say that.

I understand how frustrating it must be to travel to London at the weekend for a Tommy Robinson love-in, and to pay tribute to those brave rioters who firebombed hostels and mosques, without having this story out there to feed the fury. But sometimes the timing just sucks!

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Originally Posted by jon1959

Don't be a complete twat.

I am not defending any of that. He committed three brutal murders, produced a supply of ricin and appears to have been reading a military study of an Al Qaida terrorist manual. He is violent and dangerous and thankfully locked up. He is also facing the new charges at Westminster Magistrates' Court on Wednesday:

The teenager accused of murdering three young girls in Southport has been charged with producing the poison ricin and possessing a military study of an al-Qaeda training manual.

Axel Rudakubana, 18, has been charged with production of a biological toxin contrary to Section 1 of the Biological Weapons Act 1974.

He has also been charged with possessing a PDF document of a kind likely to be useful to a person committing to or preparing an act of terrorism, contrary to Section 58 of the Terrorism Act 2000.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c05zpdq0lzgo

But you have decided he is a Muslim, 'a mohammedan', for your own warped political reasons. I am asking you what your evidence is for that.

As far as I can see Axel Rudakubana is a disturbed and very dangerous person from a non-Muslim culture and tradition. He is a loner. He didn't stand out. It doesn't appear that he was a member of any local mosque or Muslim community. If he was, the news reports I have seen don't say that.

I understand how frustrating it must be to travel to London at the weekend for a Tommy Robinson love-in, and to pay tribute to those brave rioters who firebombed hostels and mosques, without having this story out there to feed the fury. But sometimes the timing just sucks!

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ok , struggling to see how someone deep into islamic terrorists groups isn't a mohammedan regardless of back ground . and presumably you think nazi's are loners to be helped , no mosques firebomed

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Originally Posted by + the native hipster

ok , struggling to see how someone deep into islamic terrorists groups isn't a mohammedan regardless of back ground . and presumably you think nazi's are loners to be helped , no mosques firebomed

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Nazis are never loners. I think you've got a lot to learn about the human psyche. Unfortunately it's not a simple thesis. Anyway, take some consolation no mosques were firebombed and the Government did a brilliant job in nipping the riots in the bud. I'm sure you'll agree we all feel safer after that

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Originally Posted by Dorcus

Nazis are never loners. I think you've got a lot to learn about the human psyche. Unfortunately it's not a simple thesis. Anyway, take some consolation no mosques were firebombed and the Government did a brilliant job in nipping the riots in the bud. I'm sure you'll agree we all feel safer after that

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ditto muslim extremists, and why would someone claim mosques were firebombed when they weren't

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Originally Posted by + the native hipster

ditto muslim extremists, and why would someone claim mosques were firebombed when they weren't

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Oh there's lots of reasons I suppose; humans are a strange breed: but anyway you and I can sleep a lot easier knowing that no mosques were indeed bombed. See! I've cheered you up already

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Originally Posted by + the native hipster

ok , struggling to see how someone deep into islamic terrorists groups isn't a mohammedan regardless of back ground . and presumably you think nazi's are loners to be helped , no mosques firebomed

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You are hard work!

From the police statements and the news reports that followed he was reading a military study of an Al Qaida manual. The military that produced the study - whether western or otherwise - will represent governments that are hostile to Al Qaida and want to understand their threat.

I assume Radukubana was reading it for direction on how to carry out a terrorist attack. There is no suggestion that he was studying Islam or that he was in contact with Al Qaida. That has not been claimed.

He is clearly very dangerous. He has killed and it looks like he planned a chemical terror attack. He may be a Muslim convert - but that has not been said by the police. It is your assumption based on no evidence. There are tens of thousands of people who think like you saying exactly the same all over social media tonight.

Most Nazis are not loners. Most Islamic terrorists are not loners. Most far right terrorists are not loners. Most rely on organisations and ways of embedding their ideologies. They need and use support networks. They may operate in cells but they have a base.

This guy may be the same but so far it sounds as if he was a genuine loner, quiet, kept to himself and his laptop. He was diagnosed with autism but other than that there is no suggestion of mental illness. He is disturbed and dangerous, but as far as I can see from what has been put out by the police so far not ‘a mohammedan’. I feel your pain but, as Sludge would say, ‘there you go’!

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Originally Posted by Dorcus

Oh there's lots of reasons I suppose; humans are a strange breed: but anyway you and I can sleep a lot easier knowing that no mosques were indeed bombed. See! I've cheered you up already

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so no threat to mohammedans , just to little girls and any one near johnny ricin ,thats good then

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Originally Posted by + the native hipster

so no threat to mohammedans , just to little girls and any one near johnny ricin ,thats good then

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I wasn't aware his name was Johnny! Most media outlets give it as Axel.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c39jrjm2w89o

The far-right anti-Islam activist Stephen Yaxley-Lennon, better known as Tommy Robinson, has lost an appeal against his 18-month prison sentence for contempt of court.

Yaxley-Lennon was jailed last October after he ignored a court order not to repeat lies about a Syrian refugee, who had successfully sued him for libel.

The 42-year-old appealed against the sentence on Friday, with the Court of Appeal told his segregation from other inmates at HMP Woodhill was damaging to his mental health.

In a ruling on Wednesday morning, Lady Chief Justice Baroness Carr, Lord Justice Edis and Lord Justice Warby dismissed the appeal.

"The judge's application of the law and his reasoning on the appropriate sanction in this case both exhibit a meticulous approach," they said.

Following the ruling, a spokesperson for the attorney general's office said Yaxley-Lennon's 18-month sentence "reflected how gravely the court considers contempt".

"We respect the court's decision to refuse permission to appeal the sentence imposed," they added.

The latest ruling marks Yaxley-Lennon's second court defeat in less than a month, after he lost a closely-related challenge to his segregation in jail in March.

Yaxley-Lennon, who is from Luton, was imprisoned after breaching a court order put in place after he lost a hugely expensive libel trial in 2021.

The former leader of the now-defunct English Defence League had wrongly claimed in an online video that a Syrian teenager was a violent thug.



Thoughts and prayers (not really!) with + the native hipster and Elon Musk at this difficult time!

Probably the wrong type of racist for the ccmb massive
but!!
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Probably the wrong type of racist for the ccmb massive
but!!
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-media-max-width="560"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">🚨 Joe Biden is spending his first speech since leaving office saying he didn’t have to grow up around black people<br><br>“I remember watching a bus go by… it was full of colored kids… I had never seen those.”<br><br>The face of the Democrat party 🤣🤡 <a href="https://t.co/4keCWCep8O">pic.twitter.com/4keCWCep8O</a></p>&mdash; Nick Sortor (@nicksortor) <a href="https://twitter.com/nicksortor/status/1912275043834339462?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 15, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

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That's a bloke , in his twilight years , talking about how he had little contact with black kids or " coloured kids " as people of his time used to say when he was growing up

Over this side of the pond he could be an old fella from cyncoed or rhiwbina or heath because in the old days that's how it was

I can't see where the idea he's a racist comes from

Prison news for everyone this week. Islamist tries to chop three guards heads off. Far-right activist has appeal turned down!

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Originally Posted by JamesWales

Prison news for everyone this week. Islamist tries to chop three guards heads off. Far-right activist has appeal turned down!

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Behave James.

This is the ‘Oh Tommy Tommy’ thread. This is where the fans and the opponents talk all things Tommy. This is the Tommy backed by the richest man in the world with a social media empire to allow him to spread his Tommy love globally.

The Islamist mass murderer naturally got more coverage in the UK media (broadcast, print and social) but as there are very few differences of opinion about him and his attack on the prison staff, there is little scope for a messageboard debate - so limited traction.

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Originally Posted by jon1959

Behave James.

This is the ‘Oh Tommy Tommy’ thread. This is where the fans and the opponents talk all things Tommy. This is the Tommy backed by the richest man in the world with a social media empire to allow him to spread his Tommy love globally.

The Islamist mass murderer naturally got more coverage in the UK media (broadcast, print and social) but as there are very few differences of opinion about him and his attack on the prison staff, there is little scope for a messageboard debate - so limited traction.

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That's a very fair summary Jon. But I do think many are very uncomfortable talking about the pretty serious issues happening, in prisons and elsewhere, and they are not the things that Mr Yaxley Lennon talks about, deserving as it may be that he is currently serving time.

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Originally Posted by JamesWales

That's a very fair summary Jon. But I do think many are very uncomfortable talking about the pretty serious issues happening, in prisons and elsewhere, and they are not the things that Mr Yaxley Lennon talks about, deserving as it may be that he is currently serving time.

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Not sure of the point of this post.
Are you saying you’re in support of Tommy?
Or that you disagree with violence against prison guards? One is an interesting point of view, the other I’d say most would agree with

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Originally Posted by superfeathers

Not sure of the point of this post.
Are you saying you’re in support of Tommy?
Or that you disagree with violence against prison guards? One is an interesting point of view, the other I’d say most would agree with

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Sorry, I missed this. He raises issue on the dangers of radical islam that many are in agreement on, but fewer are willing to talk about openly. His mistake is his inconsistency in applying it across the board and the tone and language used as well as his own violent history.

But my point was, in the week in which an radical Islamist connected to the murder of kids at a concert tried to murder prison guards doing their job, it just says a lot that people will stick to their comfort blanket of talking about Tommy Robinson. The irony is that his biggest detractors only fuel his rise really.

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Originally Posted by JamesWales

Sorry, I missed this. He raises issue on the dangers of radical islam that many are in agreement on, but fewer are willing to talk about openly. His mistake is his inconsistency in applying it across the board and the tone and language used as well as his own violent history.

But my point was, in the week in which an radical Islamist connected to the murder of kids at a concert tried to murder prison guards doing their job, it just says a lot that people will stick to their comfort blanket of talking about Tommy Robinson. The irony is that his biggest detractors only fuel his rise really.

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Yes would have done.🤣