2024 US Presidential Election

Current situation:

194 HARRIS

246 TRUMP

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

Looking very like Trump, apparently the Arab, Jewish, Latino men and first time voter groups have favoured him as well as more black men than usual. Not altogether surprised if he wins, but I can’t begin to explain it - there’s even talk of Trump winning the popular vote.

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It is hard to explain, it’s almost like two countries, the civilised on the coasts and buffoons in between. Too many buffoons I’m afraid, going to be a bumpy few years.

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Originally Posted by goats

It is hard to explain, it’s almost like two countries, the civilised on the coasts and buffoons in between. Too many buffoons I’m afraid, going to be a bumpy few years.

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It's the MSM vs social media & podcasts, and the fake news MSM just died.

194 HARRIS

265 TRUMP

The yanks wouldn't be so stupid to vote Trump in again, would they?
Oh, wait...they're Americans.

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Originally Posted by bobh

The yanks wouldn't be so stupid to vote Trump in again, would they?
Oh, wait...they're Americans.

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It's a landslide.

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Originally Posted by bobh

The yanks wouldn't be so stupid to vote Trump in again, would they?
Oh, wait...they're Americans.

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Wow that is an extremely bigoted comment

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Originally Posted by Wales-Bales

It's the MSM vs social media & podcasts, and the fake news MSM just died.

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You're fishing for bites with that.

I took far more interest in this US election than I normally do, back in 2016, I thought of Trump as a joke and hadn't watched any of the build up until I watched one of his speeches and had to reluctantly admit that he knew how to hold a crowd, as well as make his point cogently - I was more impressed than I thought I'd be. By contrast, I've seen far more of him over the past few months and thought he was awful. He was murdered by Harris in the debate they had and his addresses have been overlong and rambling, but it seems that, just as it doesn't matter what he gets up to as far as about 45 per cent of the country is concerned, it doesn't matter what crap he comes out with in his speeches - he was so right with that I could shoot someone on Fifth Avenue quote and it wouldn't make any difference as far as my support goes.

I first got Sky TV back in 1990 to watch England's tour of the West Indies, but soon happened upon what was then called the WWF. For about a year I was fascinated by it and couldn't stop watching it. I can remember a few months after I got the Sky dish, the first Gulf War began and, within a week, one of WWF's pantomime villains had turned into an Iraqi sympathiser who got his come uppance when. he was humiliated by someone like Hulk Hogan in some much hyped showdown a few weeks later.

I've thought of those old wrestling shows I couldn't get enough of for a short while thirty years ago now and again while I've watched the coverage from America of the election in the last few months - it's all been a bit cartoonish and way too biased for me. I knew about Fox, but, to be honest, they're no more biased than CNN and as for the Podcasts I'd watched, it was hard to find any objectivity. There was one especially called Meidas Touch I think which churned out about five videos a day and you could guarantee that the first one of the day would begin with the words "it's been an absolutely terrible morning for the Donald Trump campaign" - it was ridiculous stuff and full of holes and/or lies. Liberals have a tendency to look down their noses at people and act all superior, but, from what i saw on mainstream media and on social media as far as election coverage was concerned, they were just as bad as the Republicans in many ways.

I put a thread on here months ago asking where was the best place to get some considered and not completely biased coverage of the election and was pointed towards The Rest is Politics USA which I always made a point of watching. I was always struck by Katty Kaye never seeming fully convinced by the Democratic campaign even when it was going well for them and that's one of the reasons why I was never fully confident of a Harris win.

Having had a bit more time to think about it now, I'd say you can't avoid a feeling that large swathes of America were not willing to accept a, black, woman President, but there's more to it than that - rightly or wrongly, the "downtrodden" think that the Biden Government did not do enough for them.

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Originally Posted by goats

It is hard to explain, it’s almost like two countries, the civilised on the coasts and buffoons in between. Too many buffoons I’m afraid, going to be a bumpy few years.

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I hadn't visited the States for years until last August, admittedly it was Florida but I was surprised how many people favoured Trump.

I think you're right about a few bumpy years, I can see Trumps protectionist policies making a dent on the UK economy.

Putin must also be rubbing his cock in excitement.

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Originally Posted by bobh

The yanks wouldn't be so stupid to vote Trump in again, would they?
Oh, wait...they're Americans.

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Just think, people like sludge make up the majority over there…..no chance really

We saw 4 years ago that Trump is a bad loser; seems he's also a bad winner, with his speech just now verging on gloating.

Would you leave your beautiful young daughter alone in a room with Donald Trump?

I rest my case.

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Originally Posted by Jordi Culé

You're fishing for bites with that.

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They tried and failed to gaslight the American people.

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Originally Posted by Wales-Bales

They tried and failed to gaslight the American people.

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You're fishing for bites with that.

Trump's win is no surprise - it has looked like that (bar a brief and shallow Harris surge a few months ago) all year.

Shit result though.

Time to turn off the TV and avoid the MAGA parties for a while - and the parties in St Petersburg and Tel Aviv!

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Originally Posted by Jordi Culé

I hadn't visited the States for years until last August, admittedly it was Florida but I was surprised how many people favoured Trump.

I think you're right about a few bumpy years, I can see Trumps protectionist policies making a dent on the UK economy.

Putin must also be rubbing his cock in excitement.

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I’ve been there 4 times in last 6 years and agree about Trumps popularity, does depend on where you go though. New York and California a lot more liberal of course, the rest is all guns and Dolly Parton

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

I took far more interest in this US election than I normally do, back in 2016, I thought of Trump as a joke and hadn't watched any of the build up until I watched one of his speeches and had to reluctantly admit that he knew how to hold a crowd, as well as make his point cogently - I was more impressed than I thought I'd be. By contrast, I've seen far more of him over the past few months and thought he was awful. He was murdered by Harris in the debate they had and his addresses have been overlong and rambling, but it seems that, just as it doesn't matter what he gets up to as far as about 45 per cent of the country is concerned, it doesn't matter what crap he comes out with in his speeches - he was so right with that I could shoot someone on Fifth Avenue quote and it wouldn't make any difference as far as my support goes.

I first got Sky TV back in 1990 to watch England's tour of the West Indies, but soon happened upon what was then called the WWF. For about a year I was fascinated by it and couldn't stop watching it. I can remember a few months after I got the Sky dish, the first Gulf War began and, within a week, one of WWF's pantomime villains had turned into an Iraqi sympathiser who got his come uppance when. he was humiliated by someone like Hulk Hogan in some much hyped showdown a few weeks later.

I've thought of those old wrestling shows I couldn't get enough of for a short while thirty years ago now and again while I've watched the coverage from America of the election in the last few months - it's all been a bit cartoonish and way too biased for me. I knew about Fox, but, to be honest, they're no more biased than CNN and as for the Podcasts I'd watched, it was hard to find any objectivity. There was one especially called Meidas Touch I think which churned out about five videos a day and you could guarantee that the first one of the day would begin with the words "it's been an absolutely terrible morning for the Donald Trump campaign" - it was ridiculous stuff and full of holes and/or lies. Liberals have a tendency to look down their noses at people and act all superior, but, from what i saw on mainstream media and on social media as far as election coverage was concerned, they were just as bad as the Republicans in many ways.

I put a thread on here months ago asking where was the best place to get some considered and not completely biased coverage of the election and was pointed towards The Rest is Politics USA which I always made a point of watching. I was always struck by Katty Kaye never seeming fully convinced by the Democratic campaign even when it was going well for them and that's one of the reasons why I was never fully confident of a Harris win.

Having had a bit more time to think about it now, I'd say you can't avoid a feeling that large swathes of America were not willing to accept a, black, woman President, but there's more to it than that - rightly or wrongly, the "downtrodden" think that the Biden Government did not do enough for them.

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Trump is past his sell-by-date, but he does have some formable people behind him who could torch a lot of the current bureaucracy.

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Originally Posted by jon1959

Trump's win is no surprise - it has looked like that (bar a brief and shallow Harris surge a few months ago) all year.

Shit result though.

Time to turn off the TV and avoid the MAGA parties for a while - and the parties in St Petersburg and Tel Aviv!

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Alternately, he might never make it into the Whitehouse.

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Originally Posted by Wales-Bales

They tried and failed to gaslight the American people.

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Still casting your rod.

https://youtu.be/flA5ndOyZbI?si=oQIfAKr964gqZFrk

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Originally Posted by blue sky

https://youtu.be/flA5ndOyZbI?si=oQIfAKr964gqZFrk

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Not in the Middle East it won't be

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

I took far more interest in this US election than I normally do, back in 2016, I thought of Trump as a joke and hadn't watched any of the build up until I watched one of his speeches and had to reluctantly admit that he knew how to hold a crowd, as well as make his point cogently - I was more impressed than I thought I'd be. By contrast, I've seen far more of him over the past few months and thought he was awful. He was murdered by Harris in the debate they had and his addresses have been overlong and rambling, but it seems that, just as it doesn't matter what he gets up to as far as about 45 per cent of the country is concerned, it doesn't matter what crap he comes out with in his speeches - he was so right with that I could shoot someone on Fifth Avenue quote and it wouldn't make any difference as far as my support goes.

I first got Sky TV back in 1990 to watch England's tour of the West Indies, but soon happened upon what was then called the WWF. For about a year I was fascinated by it and couldn't stop watching it. I can remember a few months after I got the Sky dish, the first Gulf War began and, within a week, one of WWF's pantomime villains had turned into an Iraqi sympathiser who got his come uppance when. he was humiliated by someone like Hulk Hogan in some much hyped showdown a few weeks later.

I've thought of those old wrestling shows I couldn't get enough of for a short while thirty years ago now and again while I've watched the coverage from America of the election in the last few months - it's all been a bit cartoonish and way too biased for me. I knew about Fox, but, to be honest, they're no more biased than CNN and as for the Podcasts I'd watched, it was hard to find any objectivity. There was one especially called Meidas Touch I think which churned out about five videos a day and you could guarantee that the first one of the day would begin with the words "it's been an absolutely terrible morning for the Donald Trump campaign" - it was ridiculous stuff and full of holes and/or lies. Liberals have a tendency to look down their noses at people and act all superior, but, from what i saw on mainstream media and on social media as far as election coverage was concerned, they were just as bad as the Republicans in many ways.

I put a thread on here months ago asking where was the best place to get some considered and not completely biased coverage of the election and was pointed towards The Rest is Politics USA which I always made a point of watching. I was always struck by Katty Kaye never seeming fully convinced by the Democratic campaign even when it was going well for them and that's one of the reasons why I was never fully confident of a Harris win.

Having had a bit more time to think about it now, I'd say you can't avoid a feeling that large swathes of America were not willing to accept a, black, woman President, but there's more to it than that - rightly or wrongly, the "downtrodden" think that the Biden Government did not do enough for them.

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You probably don't want my endorsement, but this is a great post Bob

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Originally Posted by Wales-Bales

Trump is past his sell-by-date, but he does have some formable people behind him who could torch a lot of the current bureaucracy.

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Formidable people like a number of Silicon Valley billionaires by the sound of it. That’s one of the things I don’t get about your lot, you talk about things like big pharma being behind parties of the centre/left and I think that’s a fair point to a degree, but you don’t seem to have a problem with a party that has gone much further to the right in the last quarter of a century being in the hands of a group which includes some of the richest people in the world.

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Originally Posted by JamesWales

You probably don't want my endorsement, but this is a great post Bob

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Thanks, that’s another thing that did the Democrats no favours - too interested in getting celebrity endorsements!