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Re: Siopis is having a medical
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Originally Posted by
City123
Is he one of our better midfielders?
The fact that some might consider this says a lot about the strength in depth in our midfield.
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Re: Siopis is having a medical
If he's no longer on the wage bill and a free its a good deal. If there's actually a fee involved it's a brilliant deal.
Can't fault him for effort. We need far better and there are better available anyway.
Good luck to him.
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Re: Siopis is having a medical
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Originally Posted by
Hilts
If he's no longer on the wage bill and a free its a good deal. If there's actually a fee involved it's a brilliant deal.
Can't fault him for effort. We need far better and there are better available anyway.
Good luck to him.
I echo this.
Siopis could never be faulted for his effort. There were a few games whereby he was vying for the MoM award.
However, he just seemed to lack that little something - passing ability, composure on the ball, whatever...
Good luck Sio!
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Re: Siopis is having a medical
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Originally Posted by
Rjk
I like Siopis. He seems like a good laugh in all of the training videos he puts up.
And he's not without his strengths either - in the game against England he was getting rave reviews from England fans on twitter. Some Man-u fans were demanding they sign him :hehe:
I'm not sure why he hasn't been more successful here - perhaps he isn't as well suited to the more physical nature of the Championship, and in another league that is refereed differently he could be more effective.
I also think his passing is better than he gets credit for. There have been matches where i've thought he's been useless with the ball for us, but when I've checked after the game he's had better passing stats than any of the other midfielders - just for some reason his misplaced passes stuck in the memory more (perhaps more unforced errors).
He is the last person you want to see lining up a shot from distance though.
Anyway I don't think it would be out of the question to get some money for him, hes a good player in the right team i think
The old international player reasoning is often an amusing one. We could have had millions if we'd have sold Darcy Blake after Wales lost 1-0 at Wembley but he had Wayne Rooney in his pocket all game. I was surprised to see that Joe Morrell is without a club despite nearly 40 appearances for Wales. I know it's all about country size - big countries occasionally have too many top players vying for the same positions and some have a minor international career as a result. Had they played for a smaller country, they'd be first on the team sheet.
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Re: Siopis is having a medical
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Originally Posted by
Eric the Half a Bee
Siopis doesn't suit the way we play that much and offers nothing in terms of possession or creatively. The days of needing a headless chicken in midfield are numbered.
Siopis was always the new Harry Arter.
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Re: Siopis is having a medical
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Originally Posted by
Taunton Blue Genie
Siopis was always the new Harry Arter.
Harry After, He was bad. His first touch was shocking and he couldn't tackle, yet he had a fine career. What do we know.....
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Re: Siopis is having a medical
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Originally Posted by
Tuerto
Harry After, He was bad. His first touch was shocking and he couldn't tackle, yet he had a fine career. What do we know.....
Apparently, Siopis' medical is taking longer than expected - as he insists on running around and around the medical couch.
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A no brainer for me, and I'm surprised people are questioning it. He's undoubtedly a good player (as evidenced when he plays for Greece), but he's just not suited to the pace and physicality of the Championship at all.
At his age, that's a great move for him - a slower, less demanding league, and the opportunity to play for a massive club in his homeland.
For us, he's supposedly a top earner and the money can be better used elsewhere. Bear in mind that he had another 18 months to go as well, so getting him off the wage bill will be a relief.
With that in mind, if we gave him 200k to sign for us and he's been here 18 months (with 18 to go), a 100k fee would be fair to me.
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Re: Siopis is having a medical
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Originally Posted by
Taunton Blue Genie
Siopis was always the new Harry Arter.
Except he didn't seem to get the 'red mist' that Arter was inflicted with.
Siopis was often like a dog chasing his own tail - Arter was often looking for retribution for a challenge that had occurred previously, the ball seemed incidental to Arter.
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Re: Siopis is having a medical
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Originally Posted by
Taunton Blue Genie
Apparently, Siopis' medical is taking longer than expected - as he insists on running around and around the medical couch.
I'd heard he took his medical notes from the doctor and passed them to the wrong receptionist
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Re: Siopis is having a medical
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Originally Posted by
Eric the Half a Bee
I'd heard he took his medical notes from the doctor and passed them to the wrong receptionist
:hehe:
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Re: Siopis is having a medical
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Originally Posted by
Taunton Blue Genie
Apparently, Siopis' medical is taking longer than expected - as he insists on running around and around the medical couch.
Be fair, that's not one of your best attempts at humour. :hehe:
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Last season, I was impressed with how he hustled and won the ball quite a lot.
This season, he hasn’t played well.
A move would be best for all I think.
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Re: Siopis is having a medical
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Originally Posted by
Eric the Half a Bee
The old international player reasoning is often an amusing one. We could have had millions if we'd have sold Darcy Blake after Wales lost 1-0 at Wembley but he had Wayne Rooney in his pocket all game. I was surprised to see that Joe Morrell is without a club despite nearly 40 appearances for Wales. I know it's all about country size - big countries occasionally have too many top players vying for the same positions and some have a minor international career as a result. Had they played for a smaller country, they'd be first on the team sheet.
Think Morrell had a pretty bad injury
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Re: Siopis is having a medical
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Originally Posted by
City123
Think Morrell had a pretty bad injury
Ah, if I was aware of that, I'd certainly forgotten. That's a huge pity.
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Re: Siopis is having a medical
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Originally Posted by
Eric the Half a Bee
Ah, if I was aware of that, I'd certainly forgotten. That's a huge pity.
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Originally Posted by
City123
Think Morrell had a pretty bad injury
Apparently he's back in training and looking for another club
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football...s/cqlr3xy46qvo
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Re: Siopis is having a medical
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Originally Posted by
City123
Is he one of our better midfielders?
Deffo.
Being a current Greek international suggests that he is a decent player as well.
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Re: Siopis is having a medical
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Originally Posted by
Bobby Dandruff
Deffo.
Being a current Greek international suggests that he is a decent player as well.
I disagree. He's not better defensively than Chambers or Ralls, he's not as good on the ball as Turnbull and Robertson is better in practically every aspect. Add into that the more attacking players and I don't think he's particularly high on our list of midfielders
Now he has Mannsverk to contend with who's highly rated
Can't fault his effort but a limited player who probably isn't suited to the pace and physicality of the Championship. Sure he'll do well in Greece
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Re: Siopis is having a medical
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Originally Posted by
Bobby Dandruff
Hold on: Ralls doesn’t play every game and is clearly ‘managed’ probably due to his age, Chambers has looked excellent in midfield albeit for a handful of game and we have never even seen Mannsverk play so I can’t see how you can say that.
Chambers has played an entire season in midfield for Fulham and was player of the year there. Ralls is ahead of Sio in the pecking order and Ajax haven't sent Mannsverk here to back up anyone (he's clearly Sio's replacement isn't he!). Sio's game is not suited to here, he gets pushed around and bullied far too often due to the physical nature of the British game. I'm sure he'll do well in Greece but I don't think he'd want to be second fiddle here.
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id be fascinated to know what the fee will be (assuming it goes through)
I have absolutely no idea, if you told me it was anything from a free transfer to 200k to 1 or 2 million id believe it.
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Looks more as if he wants to go than being pushed.
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Re: Siopis is having a medical
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Originally Posted by
Bobby Dandruff
And yet it seems odd to be getting rid of one of our better midfield players when Turnbull is unproven, Ramsay always injured and the new chap from Ajax also unproven. Ralls isn’t getting any younger either.
It probably suits him but I can think of a few others that I’d move on before Sio.
I can't agree with this. Despite his energy and enthusiasm, he suffers from falling between a 6 and 8. I just can't see where he fits into a Championship midfield. He neither has the physicality or the quality in his passing to prosper. Surely Chambers performances in the same role highlight what we have been missing from Siopis over the last 18 months.
Good luck to him, he has always given 100% - but I don't believe that his qualities suit either English Championship or Premier League football.
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Re: Siopis is having a medical
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Originally Posted by
Pedro de la Rosa
Chambers has played an entire season in midfield for Fulham and was player of the year there. Ralls is ahead of Sio in the pecking order and Ajax haven't sent Mannsverk here to back up anyone (he's clearly Sio's replacement isn't he!). Sio's game is not suited to here, he gets pushed around and bullied far too often due to the physical nature of the British game. I'm sure he'll do well in Greece but I don't think he'd want to be second fiddle here.
I also couldn't get over his lack of positional nous. For such an experienced player he gets caught out of position an awful lot.
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Re: Siopis is having a medical
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Originally Posted by
Taunton Blue Genie
Siopis was always the new Harry Arter.
Charlie Oatway
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Re: Siopis is having a medical
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Originally Posted by
City123
Is he one of our better midfielders?
Yes. Playing below his best lately though.
The problem being there’s too many of similar ilk