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Re: "I'm convinced that death is not the end for us whatever happens after that"
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Originally Posted by
truthpaste
Ok, so you have become aware that this 'flesh & blood' existence is not all there is to life. Agreed.
You have become aware of claims concerning the Nephelim, the Pyramids and other unexplained worldwide phenomena and you have sought answers to these.
Next you have found an answer that does the following:-
1. Gives an explanation that satisfies you and ties a lot of these mysteries together.
2. Mentions the Biblical accounts and plants seeds of doubt on their reliability.
3. Makes 'truth claims' about a large narritive based on texts left by the sumerians and other ancient peoples.
Would this be a fair summary of where you are up to now?
You are dealing with a religious nutter here
You will never win
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Re: "I'm convinced that death is not the end for us whatever happens after that"
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
You are dealing with a religious nutter here
You will never win
I see you as way off the mark as ever, I also hate religion because it serves to confuse people like yourself, and sadly it seems that you will never understand this :shrug:
Stevo isn't trying to win, without your permission he is asking questions of many things and looking a little deeper than this brief existence in time; I know that will annoy you but try to deal with it as best you can :thumbup:
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Re: "I'm convinced that death is not the end for us whatever happens after that"
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Originally Posted by
truthpaste
Ok, so you have become aware that this 'flesh & blood' existence is not all there is to life. Agreed.
You have become aware of claims concerning the Nephelim, the Pyramids and other unexplained worldwide phenomena and you have sought answers to these.
Next you have found an answer that does the following:-
1. Gives an explanation that satisfies you and ties a lot of these mysteries together.
2. Mentions the Biblical accounts and plants seeds of doubt on their reliability.
3. Makes 'truth claims' about a large narritive based on texts left by the sumerians and other ancient peoples.
Would this be a fair summary of where you are up to now?
Yes, let's go with that for now, although I'm struggling to think of any related mystery right now that is not explained by my answer.
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Re: "I'm convinced that death is not the end for us whatever happens after that"
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stevo
Yes, let's go with that for now, although I'm struggling to think of any related mystery right now that is not explained by my answer.
Your 'answer' being your video I suppose?
So how is your investigation for related facts going re the sources for all their claims?
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Re: "I'm convinced that death is not the end for us whatever happens after that"
I was going to ask you a similar question. How do you think the pyramids were built? How is there staggering similarity in ancient buildings and artifacts that span the globe? How did they make these things thousands of years ago that we'd struggle to achieve today?
Where does Gobleki Tepe fit in with your history and narrative?
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Not to mention "drones", UFOs, etc.
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Re: "I'm convinced that death is not the end for us whatever happens after that"
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Originally Posted by
truthpaste
I see you as way off the mark as ever, I also hate religion because it serves to confuse people like yourself, and sadly it seems that you will never understand this :shrug:
Stevo isn't trying to win, without your permission he is asking questions of many things and looking a little deeper than this brief existence in time; I know that will annoy you but try to deal with it as best you can :thumbup:
I think he's wasting his time but if you enjoy talking nonsense and getting someone to engage then it's a free country
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Re: "I'm convinced that death is not the end for us whatever happens after that"
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SLUDGE FACTORY
I think he's wasting his time but if you enjoy talking nonsense and getting someone to engage then it's a free country
Well, we are both wasting our time really because Truthpaste and I know that we're never going to change each others minds. But we do agree that we're on the verge of a world-changing event. So, we'll know who's right soon enough.
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Re: "I'm convinced that death is not the end for us whatever happens after that"
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stevo
Well, we are both wasting our time really because Truthpaste and I know that we're never going to change each others minds. But we do agree that we're on the verge of a world-changing event. So, we'll know who's right soon enough.
A Comet ?
A sale at Home Bargains ?
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Re: "I'm convinced that death is not the end for us whatever happens after that"
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stevo
Well, we are both wasting our time really because Truthpaste and I know that we're never going to change each others minds. But we do agree that we're on the verge of a world-changing event. So, we'll know who's right soon enough.
Match of The Day
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Re: "I'm convinced that death is not the end for us whatever happens after that"
It's not even a fair contest really, given the US Government has already started the ball rolling on alien and UAP disclosure. And you only have to spend 5 minutes of your time looking into the subject's recent events to conclude that we're not alone in this universe.
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Re: "I'm convinced that death is not the end for us whatever happens after that"
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stevo
It's not even a fair contest really, given the US Government has already started the ball rolling on alien and UAP disclosure. And you only have to spend 5 minutes of your time looking into the subject's recent events to conclude that we're not alone in this universe.
If they come from some distant planet they are unlikely to be Christians....
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Re: "I'm convinced that death is not the end for us whatever happens after that"
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Taunton Blue Genie
If they come from some distant planet they are unlikely to be Christians....
Truthpaste will be along soon to belittle you or read you a page out of the book
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Re: "I'm convinced that death is not the end for us whatever happens after that"
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SLUDGE FACTORY
Be patient but if we don't agree with God we get sent to hell
Well sod that then
Purgatory?
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Re: "I'm convinced that death is not the end for us whatever happens after that"
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Heathblue
Purgatory?
The Waiting Room for Hell. Sludge has just jumped to the end game.
Better to opt for the Mead Halls of Thor with all your old mates from the Ninian Stand shield wall before Ragnarok kicks in.
A much better party than purgatory!
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Re: "I'm convinced that death is not the end for us whatever happens after that"
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Originally Posted by
stevo
I was going to ask you a similar question. How do you think the pyramids were built? How is there staggering similarity in ancient buildings and artifacts that span the globe? How did they make these things thousands of years ago that we'd struggle to achieve today?
Where does Gobleki Tepe fit in with your history and narrative?
Well firstly I don't think you are wasting your time just because you are brave enough to seek answers, however peculiar things seem to be; imagine someone from 1940 who had never seen a black & white TV suddenly seeing you produce an iPad out of your bag and Facetiming with someone in Sydney, watching live sport in colour, Multiple Movies by touching glass, Video games etc etc.
The experience would probably shock them to the core and possibly terrify them too. So reality can be way beyond our understanding, even human capabilities spanning 80+ years.
I think the pyramids across the world and many other unexplained structures are probably the result of non-human intelligence. The same intelligence that owns the thoughts of the 'hangers on' to this and other dialogues across this board, and usually leaves them spitting blood and protesting without any counter position or idea why spiritual things sometimes annoy them so much!
These creatures have thousands of years experience and know how to manipulate individuals and nations as they did so quickly in the late 1800's when many key major and satanic artifacts were moved from Turkey and Iraq to Germany. Around the same time (1889) a certain Austrian was born and 40 years later he took his place on the world stage, being used as a puppet to delete the race that was the actual target of those powers.
The evidence of these creatures taking on flesh at various times including the era of the pyramids is painted on the walls of those structures, as we have already seen in these discussions. What you have to do is examine the credibility of your sources, because this scenario is given in sufficient detail in the Bible, and without error.
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Re: "I'm convinced that death is not the end for us whatever happens after that"
With respect, I think the rest of this board (apart from Gofer Blue) would agree with me in saying alien involvement in ancient civilizations is a much more likely explanation than angel or demonic involvement.
I had a colleague once, who thought like you. She believed every word of the Bible and made jibes about my catholic upbringing. She also believed that planet Earth is about 6000 years old. I asked her - what about all the dinosaur bones? She said, oh the devil put them there. Interesting side story - years later, she left her job to pursue a degree in theology. By the end of those three years, she converted to Catholicism.
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Re: "I'm convinced that death is not the end for us whatever happens after that"
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Originally Posted by
truthpaste
Well firstly I don't think you are wasting your time just because you are brave enough to seek answers, however peculiar things seem to be; imagine someone from 1940 who had never seen a black & white TV suddenly seeing you produce an iPad out of your bag and Facetiming with someone in Sydney, watching live sport in colour, Multiple Movies by touching glass, Video games etc etc.
The experience would probably shock them to the core and possibly terrify them too. So reality can be way beyond our understanding, even human capabilities spanning 80+ years.
I think the pyramids across the world and many other unexplained structures are probably the result of non-human intelligence. The same intelligence that owns the thoughts of the 'hangers on' to this and other dialogues across this board, and usually leaves them spitting blood and protesting without any counter position or idea why spiritual things sometimes annoy them so much!
These creatures have thousands of years experience and know how to manipulate individuals and nations as they did so quickly in the late 1800's when many key major and satanic artifacts were moved from Turkey and Iraq to Germany. Around the same time (1889) a certain Austrian was born and 40 years later he took his place on the world stage, being used as a puppet to delete the race that was the actual target of those powers.
The evidence of these creatures taking on flesh at various times including the era of the pyramids is painted on the walls of those structures, as we have already seen in these discussions. What you have to do is examine the credibility of your sources, because this scenario is given in sufficient detail in the Bible, and without error.
In the book again,no real truth at all.
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Re: "I'm convinced that death is not the end for us whatever happens after that"
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Originally Posted by
stevo
With respect, I think the rest of this board (apart from Gofer Blue) would agree with me in saying alien involvement in ancient civilizations is a much more likely explanation than angel or demonic involvement.
I had a colleague once, who thought like you. She believed every word of the Bible and made jibes about my catholic upbringing. She also believed that planet Earth is about 6000 years old. I asked her - what about all the dinosaur bones? She said, oh the devil put them there. Interesting side story - years later, she left her job to pursue a degree in theology. By the end of those three years, she converted to Catholicism.
1. If you are seeking affirmation from the rest of this board then you are in as much trouble as watching someone who walks into Catholicism for enlightenment, although most secular degrees in theology in the UK would have that impact.
2. While she still wouldn't have an answer for you re the dinosaur bones, are you seriously saying that you've not spoken to anyone who actually understands the Bible who can give you an answer to such a simple question?
3. The fact that you had a Catholic upbringing (which usually leads to atheism in the majority of cases) and are now placing your hope in youtube videos about aliens, without (currently) verifying the sources speaks volumes for the vatican.
And no, she didn't believe every word of the Bible as she first would have needed to understand what she was reading!
Clue: it doesn't talk about the devil planting fake bones :hehe:
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Re: "I'm convinced that death is not the end for us whatever happens after that"
Please enlighten us then. I remember in the book of Genesis, it talks something about replenishing the Earth, a sort of out with the old, in with the new type of approach. Is that what you're referring to? Because that doesn't really explain the existence of dinosaur bones that are millions of years old.
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Re: "I'm convinced that death is not the end for us whatever happens after that"
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
Your faith is well known Sludge, along with the god who sends you to spam discussions like this. Also, it can't stand up to any robust testing, which is why all you are left with are insults for those who would dare to disagree.
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Re: "I'm convinced that death is not the end for us whatever happens after that"
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Originally Posted by
stevo
Please enlighten us then. I remember in the book of Genesis, it talks something about replenishing the Earth, a sort of out with the old, in with the new type of approach. Is that what you're referring to? Because that doesn't really explain the existence of dinosaur bones that are millions of years old.
Well firstly recent history (post 2019) should have taught you that 'following the science' is no guarantee of getting things right; sure science has made some amazing discoveries, but that doesn't mean that all it does is at that same high level.
A £200M striker can still miss a penalty or fall over the ball when it seems easier to score an open goal.
The dating of bones isn't done from the bones but from the rocks surrounding the actual bones; so if the dating of the rocks are way off, then so will the suggested dating of the bones in it.
Around 20 years ago there was a discovery of the bones of a t-rex where the femur was recently broken. When the femur was examined, then soft tissue and red blood cells were discovered inside! - dinosaur soft tissue problem - if you prefer sources that are non-Christian and perfectly sludged (no divine words or people who know Him) then look HERE.
The secular article concludes with "Large land animals like dinosaurs, however, would have to suffer a rare catastrophic burial -- such as death by landslide".
I wonder what would cause a sudden burial of large creatures in a catastrophic event! Any thoughts Stevo?
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Well, no doubt you're referring to the great flood, which of course is one theory. There are others such as an asteroid strike. But science isn't always right, that's just the nature of it. But I don't know what it is you have against scientists. They're not all out to prove the non-existence of God. I'm sure you're aware of many scientists who do believe in a deity of some kind.
If science one day points evidence towards the existence of God, then scientists will apply the scientific method and accept whatever it tells them.
You still haven't told me what the Bible has to say to prove dinosaurs either didn't exist or if they did, it was not that long ago.
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Re: "I'm convinced that death is not the end for us whatever happens after that"
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stevo
Well, no doubt you're referring to the great flood, which of course is one theory. There are others such as an asteroid strike. But science isn't always right, that's just the nature of it. But I don't know what it is you have against scientists. They're not all out to prove the non-existence of God. I'm sure you're aware of many scientists who do believe in a deity of some kind.
If science one day points evidence towards the existence of God, then scientists will apply the scientific method and accept whatever it tells them.
You still haven't told me what the Bible has to say to prove dinosaurs either didn't exist or if they did, it was not that long ago.
As asteroid strike would not cause there to be a worldwide flood, mainly because it would not bring to the surface all the waters of the deep that were a massive part of why the entire world flooded and why many animals were caught in a sudden deep layer of mud in all parts of the planet.
Yes, many scientists do believe in a deity, and many of them work at the top of their field in science while also rejecting the idea of evolution and have no problem accepting God's version of events.
As for the lie that dinosaurs are not in the Bible, then you need to understand that prior to the word 'dinosaur' being invented in the 1800's they were referred to in literature and many historical records as dragons. The Bible was translated into English in the 1500's and 1600's, so like all literature it also mentions dragons, in fact no no less than 37 times!
In fact, there is evidence that people knew exactly what dinosaurs looked like long before the first skeletons were carefully excavated; firstly consider this:
In the early 1800s a number of fossil discoveries were made in southern England. These included Megalosaurus, which was described by William Buckland in 1824, and Iguanodon and Hylaeosaurus, which were described by Gideon Mantell in 1825 and 1833 respectively. These were the FIRST discoveries of Dinosaur bones enabling people to see what they looked like!
That's no more than 200 years ago - now look at this ARTICLE re a grave (again in England) that is over 500 years old.
How would this artist have known in 1496AD what dinosaurs looked like unless he had seen one?
