Bluebirds legacy numbers and the 1221 full list of bluebirds

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Originally Posted by The Bloop

It took 72 years to get to number 611 (Martin Thomas in 1982/83) and 42 years for the next 611 players.

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I'm not surprised. In the last 42 years the number of subs has shot up

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Originally Posted by Steve the Tea

Yes, I understand that but has that principle been used throughout when two players made their debuts in the same game? I thought each player was to have his own distinctive number.

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Just out of interest the first time numbers on shirts were used in a league game was 1928 and it didn’t become compulsory until 1939. In that first 1910 game there wasn’t a 1-11

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Originally Posted by Des Parrot

Just out of interest the first time numbers on shirts were used in a league game was 1928 and it didn’t become compulsory until 1939. In that first 1910 game there wasn’t a 1-11

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Bit off topic but weren’t players numbered 1-22 when numbers were introduced? 1-11 one team & 12-22 the other.

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Originally Posted by Des Parrot

An average of 9 per season in the last century, increasing to 15 per season since 2000. Last season was the most in one season, 22. This probably reflects the greater use of academy players.

Some players should either be anonymous or give their number up,yes you number 1206 !

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You might have started something here - try 1001!!

668. HEATON, Tom; 669. KENNEDY, Mark should be 968 and 969.

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I love the jarring contrast between thr calibre of some of the players next to each other i.e.
961 Trevor Sinclair
963 Robbie Fowler
962......... Ross Turnbull

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Originally Posted by Cardiff Ultra

I love the jarring contrast between thr calibre of some of the players next to each other i.e.
961 Trevor Sinclair
963 Robbie Fowler
962......... Ross Turnbull

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Bonkers isn't it - having a Champions League, Europa League and 2-time FA Cup winner sandwiched between those 2 is crazy 😊

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Originally Posted by The Bloop

Bonkers isn't it - having a Champions League, Europa League and 2-time FA Cup winner sandwiched between those 2 is crazy ��

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Possibly the most models awarded to an ex-City player of all time.

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Originally Posted by Des Parrot

Just out of interest the first time numbers on shirts were used in a league game was 1928 and it didn’t become compulsory until 1939. In that first 1910 game there wasn’t a 1-11

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That's nothing to do with the point I was making about the Legacy numbers.

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723.. Mark Jones... First goal scorer of my Cardiff city journey. Penalty V Carlisle united.

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Originally Posted by Steve the Tea

Yes. It's an excellent idea. Well done.

Just one little thing: I hope they correct #1 to #11 from all showing as #1.

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It's a symbolic touch, and a nice one in my opinion. Football is a team game and you need 11 players to start a game.

There was no "first Cardiff City player" because without all 11 of those men there would be no "Cardiff City" to be a player for. Well over 100 years later we're supporting the club that began when they stepped out together onto that pitch for the first time. They're all equally as important as each other to be given the #1 spot.

Also, how do you decide who would be players #2 to #11? I doubt the tactics or formation played back then would match the modern numbering system and is there even any accurate records of who played where?

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Originally Posted by Canton Kev

It's a symbolic touch, and a nice one in my opinion. Football is a team game and you need 11 players to start a game.

There was no "first Cardiff City player" because without all 11 of those men there would be no "Cardiff City" to be a player for. Well over 100 years later we're supporting the club that began when they stepped out together onto that pitch for the first time. They're all equally as important as each other to be given the #1 spot.

Also, how do you decide who would be players #2 to #11? I doubt the tactics or formation played back then would match the modern numbering system and is there even any accurate records of who played where?

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As importantly perhaps, numbers weren't worn on shirts until the late 1920's.

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Originally Posted by Canton Kev

It's a symbolic touch, and a nice one in my opinion. Football is a team game and you need 11 players to start a game.

There was no "first Cardiff City player" because without all 11 of those men there would be no "Cardiff City" to be a player for. Well over 100 years later we're supporting the club that began when they stepped out together onto that pitch for the first time. They're all equally as important as each other to be given the #1 spot.

Also, how do you decide who would be players #2 to #11? I doubt the tactics or formation played back then would match the modern numbering system and is there even any accurate records of who played where?

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For the first ever game it would be alphabetically for the starting XI. This would also apply if players made their debuts in the same game any season.

If players come on as substitutes the order of coming on would apply.

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Originally Posted by Steve the Tea

For the first ever game it would be alphabetically for the starting XI. This would also apply if players made their debuts in the same game any season.

If players come on as substitutes the order of coming on would apply.

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Yes I understand how it works in any game in any season. But this wasn't any game. It's what's been considered the very first game of the club that we have all come to know and follow many years after all 11 men have long since passed away.

If Billy Watt had slipped over 2 mins before kick off and been replaced by a bloke called Mr Aaronson, then Tom Abley would've become #2 instead.

Like I said, football is a team game and you need 11 players to kick off. Every man that stepped out onto that pitch was only able to do so because of the 10 other men who walked out with him. Symbolically, the club was born from those 11 men equally.

It's a nice touch and I'd much prefer the club keep all of them as #1 rather than relegating their importance in history based on their surname.

Wonder when we will get to 1234?

This summer, Jan 26 window or summer 2026 when we preparing for the premiership?

That’s a great list, I see we had a doctor playing.for us just before the start of World War One.

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

That’s a great list, I see we had a doctor playing.for us just before the start of World War One.

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Who?

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Originally Posted by jon1959

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Dr Finlay I presume

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Originally Posted by jon1959

Who?

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57, Dr J McBean - sounds like a character from an old western film.

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

57, Dr J McBean - sounds like a character from an old western film.

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I thought you making reference to #288 Jim Finlay 😊

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Originally Posted by The Bloop

I thought you making reference to #288 Jim Finlay 😊

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Showing your age a bit there Bloop :hehe: . I can remember Dr Findlay's Casebook being one of those programmes the whole family sat down to watch back in the sixties (can still hear the theme tune today) - it used to bore me rigid.

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

Showing your age a bit there Bloop :hehe: . I can remember Dr Findlay's Casebook being one of those programmes the whole family sat down to watch back in the sixties (can still hear the theme tune today) - it used to bore me rigid.

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Shows how old we are Paul, we most probably knew old Dr Cameron when he was in medical school :old::old:

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Originally Posted by 19bluebirds27

Wonder when we will get to 1234?

This summer, Jan 26 window or summer 2026 when we preparing for the premiership?

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Overall we've been averaging something like 10 per year?, so about 18 months to hit that

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Originally Posted by splott parker

Shows how old we are Paul, we most probably knew old Dr Cameron when he was in medical school :old::old:

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……and Dr. Snoddie

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Originally Posted by Enoch Mort

……and Dr. Snoddie

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Forgot about him, the term “dour Scot” was invented with Dr Cameron in mind I reckon.