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13-03-25, 21:25
Pedro de la Rosa

Re: What’s prompted this?

Calum Chambers, he's probably been one of our best midfielders this year.

That's not the ringing endorsement Riza thinks it is :hehe:
13-03-25, 21:25
Pedro de la Rosa

Re: What’s prompted this?

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Originally Posted by City123

He's not the brightest is he?

He's also got the thinnest skin I've ever seen in professional football. It is embarrassing.
13-03-25, 21:34
Dave Blue

Re: What’s prompted this?

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/...-riza-31194876

A cross between a player revolt and trying to blame everyone for the predicament I suspect. What jibberish he is spouting. One thing is completely clear, whatever formation and jargon he uses, they don’t go over half way until the second half. It’s got to stop.
13-03-25, 22:15
The Lone Gunman

Re: What’s prompted this?

I wonder if Riza has any idea how ridiculous he sounds? I somehow doubt it.

Seriously cringeworthy stuff.
13-03-25, 22:40
jon1959

Re: What’s prompted this?

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Originally Posted by PontBlue

I always thought football was about triangles not squares.

I may not be a tactical genius like Riza but I know one thing. His tactics failed miserably Tuesday night. Luton pack the middle of the pitch so the space for us to attack was out wide but we had no one on the left stretching the game so their defense comfortably sat in.

So we're back to square one?
13-03-25, 23:09
Pedro de la Rosa

Re: What’s prompted this?

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Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman

I wonder if Riza has any idea how ridiculous he sounds? I somehow doubt it.

Seriously cringeworthy stuff.

He rings up teenagers who message him on Instagram, so I seriously doubt it.

You've gotta understand the game, understand it tactically, as to why 4 wins in 24 is actually good.
13-03-25, 23:36
PentyrchBlue

Re: What’s prompted this?

I suspect that he's done this to try and correct things after his post match interview, which I saw on the Sky highlights of the game.

To me, it sounded like he was throwing the players under a bus, with the words he was using and to make it worse, I don't recall him taking any accountablity himself, in that interview. His demeanour as well didn't help or the way he came across on tv.

So I think today, maybe it was down to our media team, the backroom staff or the directors or more likely, senior players voicing their concerns to him (that he had to shoulder some of the blame, as it's his team, his tactics, his team selection and his ultimate responsibility) which prompted his 7 minute ramble.

Added to that he's probably seen or been told about the degree of criticism & unrest amongst City fans, on social media last night & this morning and felt he needed to accept the blame for the Luton shocker.

However, what concerns me the most, is the possibility of incidents like this causing a breakdown in trust & goodwill, between Riza and the playing squad. How does this help our cause to stay up?

What a mess.
13-03-25, 23:45
Dave Blue

Re: What’s prompted this?

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Originally Posted by PentyrchBlue

I suspect that he's done this to try and correct things after his post match interview, which I saw on the Sky highlights of the game.

To me, it sounded like he was throwing the players under a bus, with the words he was using and to make it worse, I don't recall him taking any accountablity himself, in that interview. His demeanour as well didn't help or the way he came across on tv.

So I think today, maybe it was down to our media team, the backroom staff or the directors or more likely, senior players voicing their concerns to him (that he had to shoulder some of the blame, as it's his team, his tactics, his team selection and his ultimate responsibility) which prompted his 7 minute ramble.

Added to that he's probably seen or been told about the degree of criticism & unrest amongst City fans, on social media last night & this morning and felt he needed to accept the blame for the Luton shocker.

However, what concerns me the most, is the possibility of incidents like this causing a breakdown in trust & goodwill, between Riza and the playing squad. How does this help our cause to stay up?

What a mess.

There shouldn’t need to be a relationship with the manager, their own pride should be enough motivation. Maybe that’s the problem.
14-03-25, 00:18
Bald Barry Bastad

Re: What’s prompted this?

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Originally Posted by Dave Blue

There shouldn’t need to be a relationship with the manager, their own pride should be enough motivation. Maybe that’s the problem.

We're doomed then. I've not seen much character or pride amongst this lot.
14-03-25, 05:22
the other bob wilson

Re: What’s prompted this?

Does this make it look any better? Not sure it does really.

https://www.cardiffcityfc.co.uk/vide...a-cc2bf408ded3

To me, it doesn’t work because it’s a speech which sounds like “don’t forget that all that has happened is not just down to me” and that line would be effective if we were, say, in the wurzel’s position currently. As it is, it comes across a bit “we’re all pretty shit” really. As for box systems and where Rubin Colwill played, it doesn’t really matter when you’ve played as poorly as we did and lost a very important game - the bottom line is that the plan, whatever it was, didn’t work.

One thing that occurs to me though, is that we’ve had a bad Board and failing managers for a while now and managed to stay up, if, as seems likely at the moment, we go down this season, what is it that will have made the difference? It’s got to be the players hasn’t it? They should have been criticised for Tuesday, just like they should be criticised for winning just four in twenty four. They shouldn’t be “thrown under the boss” in an attempt to absolve Omer Riza of blame, but they shouldn’t be placated either. Whether they’re as good as some still say they are or not, they’ve been failures this season - it’s as simple as that.
14-03-25, 07:28
Rjk

Re: What’s prompted this?

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Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa

He's also got the thinnest skin I've ever seen in professional football. It is embarrassing.

have you already forgotten Steve Morison?
14-03-25, 07:42
Hilts

Re: What’s prompted this?

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Originally Posted by PentyrchBlue

I suspect that he's done this to try and correct things after his post match interview, which I saw on the Sky highlights of the game.

To me, it sounded like he was throwing the players under a bus, with the words he was using and to make it worse, I don't recall him taking any accountablity himself, in that interview. His demeanour as well didn't help or the way he came across on tv.

So I think today, maybe it was down to our media team, the backroom staff or the directors or more likely, senior players voicing their concerns to him (that he had to shoulder some of the blame, as it's his team, his tactics, his team selection and his ultimate responsibility) which prompted his 7 minute ramble.

Added to that he's probably seen or been told about the degree of criticism & unrest amongst City fans, on social media last night & this morning and felt he needed to accept the blame for the Luton shocker.

However, what concerns me the most, is the possibility of incidents like this causing a breakdown in trust & goodwill, between Riza and the playing squad. How does this help our cause to stay up?

What a mess.

I wouldn't worry about the breakdown of trust. He's lost the plot completely anyway. This has just made it worse again.

He should never have been put in this position in the first place.

This has just made it worse but we are just throwing games away now until he goes.

This is all on the complete idiots running the club? Will they sack him with 8 games to go is the question and then if they do will we get out of the bottom 3.

It is a complete mess.
14-03-25, 07:43
Hilts

Re: What’s prompted this?

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Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa

He rings up teenagers who message him on Instagram, so I seriously doubt it.

You've gotta understand the game, understand it tactically, as to why 4 wins in 24 is actually good.

You what??? How do you know this.?
14-03-25, 08:24
A Quiet Monkfish

Re: What’s prompted this?

I tend to feel a bit sorry for him. He's obviously way out of his depth which has become increasingly visible as things have gone from bad to worse as each week passes. It's one of the characteristics of an experienced manager, good or bad, that they rarely display any sense of desperation to the media when the situation is, indeed, desperate.
14-03-25, 09:10
Rjk

Re: What’s prompted this?

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Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish

I tend to feel a bit sorry for him. He's obviously way out of his depth which has become increasingly visible as things have gone from bad to worse as each week passes. It's one of the characteristics of an experienced manager, good or bad, that they rarely display any sense of desperation to the media when the situation is, indeed, desperate.

He's on a hiding to nothing really, if he was completely calm and collected with what's going then people would find a reason to criticise him for that also.
14-03-25, 09:33
The Lone Gunman

Re: What’s prompted this?

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Originally Posted by Rjk

He's on a hiding to nothing really, if he was completely calm and collected with what's going then people would find a reason to criticise him for that also.

Nonsense. If he was calm, collected, spoke well and made some sense (which he has done after a couple of defeats), people would accept it.

In this instance, he genuinely sounds like he's gone over the edge. It's an embarrassing display.
14-03-25, 10:47
Dorcus

Re: What’s prompted this?

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Originally Posted by J R Hartley

Coaching mumbo jumbo. Stick to under 21s or youth football Omar.

We might not understand this so called “box” between Robertson, Colwill, Chambers and Ramsey, but maybe the players don’t understand it either given the results.

I tell you what’s not difficult to understand - 4wins in 24 games. On yer bike you charlatan.

Football is a simple game made complicated by pretentious idiots like Riza. Forever changing the starting the line up and formation, not to mention having to use every sub possible. How can your expect any consistency with constant changes?

As ever, JR, spot on every word! 👍
14-03-25, 11:11
Trigger

Re: What’s prompted this?

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Originally Posted by superfeathers

our only hope is that they’re using this time wisely to have someone semi decent ready to appoint as soon as they sack him on Saturday, then get them bedded in over the break.

Obviously though, that 100% isn’t happening

:hehe::hehe: As you well know, there is absolutely no hope of that.

I'm still baffled (not that I should be) that they spent months and couldn't find anyone suitable.

I really hope Riza sorts this out, at the moment my faith in him and this squad is at its lowest.
14-03-25, 11:16
Undercoverinwurzelland

Re: What’s prompted this?

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Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish

I tend to feel a bit sorry for him. He's obviously way out of his depth which has become increasingly visible as things have gone from bad to worse as each week passes. It's one of the characteristics of an experienced manager, good or bad, that they rarely display any sense of desperation to the media when the situation is, indeed, desperate.

Me too. Maybe he was overambitious wanting the job, but you can't criticise him for that. Virtually all of us could see back in September, and certainly by December that we needed a manager with some experience. The only people who couldn't see it were Tan and co.
This mess isn't Riza's fault. He's doing his best but he's clearly bitten off way more than he can chew.
14-03-25, 11:22
Pedro de la Rosa

Re: What’s prompted this?

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Originally Posted by Hilts

You what??? How do you know this.?

The fans he's messaged have said so online and he admits to it in that car crash of a press conference
14-03-25, 11:31
Hilts

Re: What’s prompted this?

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Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa

The fans he's messaged have said so online and he admits to it in that car crash of a press conference

FFS!!!!

For his own sake he needs to be removed.

Crazy.
14-03-25, 11:44
Rjk

Re: What’s prompted this?

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Originally Posted by Hilts

FFS!!!!

For his own sake he needs to be removed.

Crazy.

tbh if we get a few wins out of somewhere I couldn't care less if he interacts with the fans on social media
14-03-25, 14:37
splott parker

Re: What’s prompted this?

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Originally Posted by Rjk

tbh if we get a few wins out of somewhere I couldn't care less if he interacts with the fans on social media

It’s him interacting with the players that concerns me.
14-03-25, 15:28
The Lone Gunman

Re: What’s prompted this?

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Originally Posted by Undercoverinwurzelland

Maybe he was overambitious wanting the job, but you can't criticise him for that.

You can, just as you can criticise anyone in any sphere of employment who applies for a job they're obviously not qualified to do. The problem is, for reasons best known to himself, Omer Riza genuinely seemed to believe he was the right man for this role. Was he delusional? Almost certainly in my opinion, but whatever he was thinking there's absolutely no way he should be given a free pass. It's a mess and he's a big part of it.
14-03-25, 15:31
Undercoverinwurzelland

Re: What’s prompted this?

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Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman

You can, just as you can criticise anyone in any sphere of employment who applies for a job they're obviously not qualified to do. The problem is, for reasons best known to himself, Omer Riza genuinely seemed to believe he was the right man for this role. Was he delusional? Almost certainly in my opinion, but whatever he was thinking there's absolutely no way he should be given a free pass. It's a mess and he's a big part of it.

I think you're always going to find people in any walk of life who think they're more capable than they are. It's up the people making the decisions to realise that they're not.

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