Evatt, Buckingham, Edwards .... Will it make that much difference ?

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Originally Posted by blue matt

if it gains us 10 goals, its maybe added a few more points on the board

yes, set piece coaches are a big thing these days, google nicolas jover ( deemed by many as the best in the world at it ) responsible ?? for Arsenal scoring so many from corners, think it was 26 this season ( might be wrong on that )

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Arsenal have good set piece takers. Ours sail over the back stick or go knee height to the bloke at the front post. They’ve got tall players that are aggressive that attack the ball, again something we lack.

We didn’t need a set piece coach when we had Moore, Flint, Morrison etc. If you put the ball in a good area, with players that want to get on the end of it, you’ll score goals.

I think the 25% ratio is about right; the question is will any manager be able to add that 25% wth the setup of the club as it is?

We are basically the Man United of the EFL. Chaotic, overbearing, billionaire owners, a poor football structure leading to hiring and firing of managers and a Frankensteins monster of a squad, and players that consistently play worse after they join us.

Its no coincidence that Warnock is the only successful Tan appointment, because he learned his trade in an era when managers did have to do a hell of a lot more. Those managers just aren't around anymore.

I think we'll have to go for a manager who's plyed his trade in the lower divisions. Hiring a young coach type manager like say Ipswich did with Kieron McKenna would just not work at a club with the set up weve got.

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Originally Posted by Cardiff Ultra

I think the 25% ratio is about right; the question is will any manager be able to add that 25% wth the setup of the club as it is?

We are basically the Man United of the EFL. Chaotic, overbearing, billionaire owners, a poor football structure leading to hiring and firing of managers and a Frankensteins monster of a squad, and players that consistently play worse after they join us.

Its no coincidence that Warnock is the only successful Tan appointment, because he learned his trade in an era when managers did have to do a hell of a lot more. Those managers just aren't around anymore.

I think we'll have to go for a manager who's plyed his trade in the lower divisions. Hiring a young coach type manager like say Ipswich did with Kieron McKenna would just not work at a club with the set up weve got.

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We need someone who can actually coach. We do have some young players and their development has been ruined by a lack of coaching

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Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa

Imagine if we didn’t give him £15m and a huge wage bill, we’d get relegated? Oh hang on…

The worst thing is, I think he rates himself and thinks he’s doing a good job. We barely ever sign a player that improves us. Salech and maybe Robertson aside, I don’t think anyone else has for 18 months at least

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I keep going back to this - it leaves me in dread and hysterics in equal measure.

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/...nsfer-31115935

😂

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Originally Posted by Tuerto

I hope you don't take what i said as being shitty, it wasn't meant that way. I wasn't aware that there were dedicated Set piece coaches. I've learnt something. :thumbup:

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Really? The emergence of set piece coaches is probably one of the biggest coaching developments in the last few years. As of the mid-2020s, most top European clubs have either: a dedicated set piece coach, or `an assistant with set piece responsibility, often supported by data analysts and video staff.

Set piece coaching emerged from the concept of marginal gains, popularized by British cycling coach Dave Brailsford. Clubs started analyzing every tiny detail that could give them a competitive edge — including set pieces, which account for around 30–35% of goals in many competitions.A major turning point came with FC Midtjylland (Denmark) and Brentford (England), both owned by Matthew Benham, a professional gambler and data analytics expert. Around 2014–2015, Midtjylland began employing data scientists and introduced specialist set piece coaching.Midtjylland scored a disproportionate number of goals from set pieces and won the Danish league in 2015. Top clubs took notice.top clubs took notice:

Liverpool hired Thomas Grønnemark, a throw-in coach, in 2018. His methods reportedly improved their throw-in retention significantly.
Arsenal and Manchester City began employing set piece analysts and coaches to focus on both attacking and defending dead-ball situations. Currently Arsenal and Villa are most often talked about for their set-piece coachs - the villa one looks like a Bondi Beach surfer.

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Originally Posted by Garth Blue

piece coaching emerged from the concept of marginal gains, popularized by British cycling coach Dave Brailsford

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How is Davey boy getting on at Man Utd?

Set piece coaching is hilarious, it's just a fancy name for stuff Tony Pulis was doing 20 years ago.

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Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa

How is Davey boy getting on at Man Utd?

Set piece coaching is hilarious, it's just a fancy name for stuff Tony Pulis was doing 20 years ago.

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Yeh, that's why successful teams like L'pool, Villa and Arsenal have dedicated set piece coaches - waist of time eh?

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Originally Posted by Garth Blue

Yeh, that's why successful teams like L'pool, Villa and Arsenal have dedicated set piece coaches - waist of time eh?

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Make that waste.