Kion Etete

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Originally Posted by Dave Blue

One less to sigh about when seen warming up.

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:hehe::hehe::hehe: you too

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Originally Posted by jon1959

I agree - but these are the same owners who signed over 15 first team players under Steve Morison. Those were the days before the act of making a decision became a lost art at the CCS.

We need at least 3 new outfield players.

We also need BBM to live up to our best hopes and to improve a lot of the players already in the squad - not just the ones just promoted from the Academy.

There are signs of that already - collectively and individually. At least for the top of the pitch. I have been impressed by BBM so far on limited evidence (interviews, training videos and the pre-season games) but he doesn't seem to be too concerned about our chronic defensive weaknesses, and he is working with a very underpowered coaching team. Who is responsible for the defensive work is a mystery - maybe Tom Ramasut is'still in the building'?

The Academy is the bright spot though. If we had brought in Dylan Lawlor, Ronan Kpakio and Tanatswa Nyakuhwa from Premier League u21 squads - and seen YouTube videos of their actual performances - I think most of us would have been buzzing. Because we grew our own they somehow don't count when we talk about the squad changes from last season.

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We let about fifteen go though three years ago.

We’ve largely ignored the Academy for years and now, when we decide to start using it, were chucking in good young players into a team seriously lacking a balance between youth and experience to sink or swim..

I accept that the young players do tend to get ignored when people consider our prospects for the new season, but, as I keep on saying, they’re going to have to be very good and BBM’s going to have to play an absolute blinder for us to be promotion contenders with the squad as it stands - these players we’re supposed to be bringing in before the window closes are going to have to be very good.

Call me crazy but I've always thought that there's a player in Etete and I wouldn't be surprised if he does well in League one with Rotherham.

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Originally Posted by Bald Barry Bastad

Call me crazy but I've always thought that there's a player in Etete and I wouldn't be surprised if he does well in League one with Rotherham.

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And I have, but you do have to wonder about the decision to extend his contract and the one to give O’Dowda a 3 (three!) year deal and then sell him six months later :facepalm:

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Originally Posted by Bald Barry Bastad

Call me crazy but I've always thought that there's a player in Etete and I wouldn't be surprised if he does well in League one with Rotherham.

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Same here. He won me a sum of money a couple of seasons ago when scoring the winner. Shame

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

And I have, but you do have to wonder about the decision to extend his contract and the one to give OÂ’Dowda a 3 (three!) year deal and then sell him six months later :facepalm:

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Thing is, how long do the club give players like Etete to prove themselves? he's been involved in over 50 league games for us and for the best part he's not been very good.

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

And I have, but you do have to wonder about the decision to extend his contract and the one to give O’Dowda a 3 (three!) year deal and then sell him six months later :facepalm:

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To be fair, had we not been relegated I’m fairly sure we wouldn’t have not moved on O Dowda.
Maybe he had a relegation clause.

Giving Etete a 2 year deal when had done **** all in the previous 2 years to justify it is just another in a long line of nonsensical and poor decisions by the football club under Tans regime. Especially since Warnock left, the recruitment has just got worse and worse, which takes some doing considering the dross he brought when we got relegated from the PL.

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Originally Posted by Tuerto

Thing is, how long do the club give players like Etete to prove themselves? he's been involved in over 50 league games for us and for the best part he's not been very good.

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When we gave Etete his two year extension in January, we were saying he was going to be a City player for the next two and a half years and yet he’s going to spend the first eighteen months, at least, of that period at other clubs, so what was the point?

I’d have offered him a one year extension and kept him here last season as a back up to Salech - it’s with the benefit of hindsight obviously, but that loan spell at Bolton has set his career back slightly.

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

When we gave Etete his two year extension in January, we were saying he was going to be a City player for the next two and a half years and yet heÂ’s going to spend the first eighteen months, at least, of that period at other clubs, so what was the point?

IÂ’d have offered him a one year extension and kept him here last season as a back up to Salech - itÂ’s with the benefit of hindsight obviously, but that loan spell at Bolton has set his career back slightly.

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As Hartley alludes to, the levels of ineptitude are staggering. Someone has made a decision to offer him that contract, when most supporters wouldn't have agreed to it, then BBM comes in and he's out the door. It would be interesting to know who thought it would be a good idea to offer Etete an extended contract.

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Originally Posted by Tuerto

As Hartley alludes to, the levels of ineptitude are staggering. Someone has made a decision to offer him that contract, when most supporters wouldn't have agreed to it, then BBM comes in and he's out the door. It would be interesting to know who thought it would be a good idea to offer Etete an extended contract.

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If the club expected a bidding war this summer for Kion Etete, then it might have made some sense to give him an extended contract to ensure he wouldn't leave on the cheap. In all other circumstances it is expensive madness to extend. The real world is made up of all those other circumstances. I would love to know where these decisions come from and how they are signed off - Paddy Deboys, the manager or the next manager, Ken Choo, the board? With a final approval from Vincent Tan on someone's advice?

Who knows, but it looks an increasingly leaderless and disfunctional way of running a club.

It does worry me if we pick up any injuries in the next month

Maybe, just maybe, the new manager has shipped out what he believes to be the dross, and thinks he can have a good season with the players he’s kept, along with the youngsters he’s added to the squad.
Like all managers, he will have to fall on his sword if it goes tits up.
The standard in Division 1 obviously isn’t as good as the standard in the championship. It would be more worrying if a team who’d been promoted didn’t strengthen their squad.
Lets see how the first 10 games go, before we start wetting our knickers.

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Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman

Always gave 100%?!? Was that apart from the many occasions when he was sat on the ground with his arms in the air pretending he'd been fouled while play carried on around him?

Etete very rarely had the stomach for a battle of any kind. His efforts in a City shirt were genuinely embarrassing at times. Shame, as he's a player who has some natural ability, but he's not up to the physical side of the game.

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I think he gets an unfair deal.

People and I feel refs assume he should rough up to it purely because he’s big.

If he was a 5’8 striker we’d say he’d be justified and not getting the fouls he deserves.

I think he showed promise but we’ve never got the most out of strikers.

Etete is as weak as a kitten. As already mentioned in this thread - spends too much time sat on his arse, throwing his arms up asking the ref for a foul, before slowly rising to his feet and dusting himself down - while play continues around him.

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Originally Posted by Rock_Flock_of_Five

Etete is as weak as a kitten. As already mentioned in this thread - spends too much time sat on his arse, throwing his arms up asking the ref for a foul, before slowly rising to his feet and dusting himself down - while play continues around him.

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I’d rather say that he often got little protection from referees, but maybe that was because they thought he was doing what you say he was. I was supportive of Etete, but Salech is a big step up from him, especially in terms of his attitude.

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Originally Posted by William Treseder

Maybe, just maybe, the new manager has shipped out what he believes to be the dross, and thinks he can have a good season with the players heÂ’s kept, along with the youngsters heÂ’s added to the squad.
Like all managers, he will have to fall on his sword if it goes tits up.
The standard in Division 1 obviously isnÂ’t as good as the standard in the championship. It would be more worrying if a team whoÂ’d been promoted didnÂ’t strengthen their squad.
Lets see how the first 10 games go, before we start wetting our knickers.

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You need to buy my book as your fishing has gone terrible of late.

No-one is wetting their knickers. Everyone is pretty much in agreement he is dross and it was bizarre his deal was extended.

How dare people on a message board have an opinion on an outgoing transfer. :hehe:

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Originally Posted by Rjk

When we signed him he had an interesting profile in terms of stats - I can't find the details now but from memory he was very high in terms of tackles/blocks etc for a striker, reasonable at dribbling, but had some very obvious weaknesses too - I think most notably shots, touches in the area (and goals).
Might be more useful to a team playing an aggressive high press- but that hasn't been us for the last several years.

Didn't seem to be able to use his physique as an asset, which is a pity.
I don't think he'll ever be prolific, but in the right setup he could be an asset at this level.

Good luck to him

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Interesting profile in terms of stats? The guy started just 25 first team games before we bought him. :hehe:

Looked a world beater in the Whitts memorial game v Villa, but apart from that has been largely very poor. Obviously BBM doesn’t like the look of him and won’t be a loss.

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Originally Posted by J R Hartley

You need to buy my book as your fishing has gone terrible of late.

No-one is wetting their knickers. Everyone is pretty much in agreement he is dross and it was bizarre his deal was extended.

How dare people on a message board have an opinion on an outgoing transfer. :hehe:

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Settle down son. I’m not on a fishing trip. I’m talking about the whole situation in general.
Why don’t you try reading posts and understand the gist of them before you get all uppity.?

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Originally Posted by William Treseder

Why don’t you try reading posts and understand the gist of them before you get all uppity.?

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You just smashed the irony meter into a gazillion pieces Flower Man.

Rotherham - Port Vale match report from the Rotherham Advertiser:

https://www.rotherhamadvertiser.co.u...debuts-5254585

Frontman Kion Eete was introduced as a substitute in the closing stages of yesterday's 2-1 win over Port Vale at AESSEAL New York Stadium only a day after moving to S60 on a season-long loan from Cardiff City.

Short on fitness, the 23-year-old did little to impress, but his manager thinks his acquisition is great business for the club.

“We think we'll get a tune out of him,” Hamshaw said. "We need to get crosses into the box for him. These are things we'll work on.

“He's a proper Rotherham United centre-forward, in my opinion. He'll give his all.”

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Originally Posted by jon1959

Rotherham - Port Vale match report from the Rotherham Advertiser:

https://www.rotherhamadvertiser.co.u...debuts-5254585

Frontman Kion Eete was introduced as a substitute in the closing stages of yesterday's 2-1 win over Port Vale at AESSEAL New York Stadium only a day after moving to S60 on a season-long loan from Cardiff City.

Short on fitness, the 23-year-old did little to impress, but his manager thinks his acquisition is great business for the club.

“We think we'll get a tune out of him,” Hamshaw said. "We need to get crosses into the box for him. These are things we'll work on.

“He's a proper Rotherham United centre-forward, in my opinion. He'll give his all.”

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Looked very laboured from what I saw when he came on. He isn't going to be anywhere near match fit though to be fair to him.

I think he has that sort of running style though. When you see Salech and co sprinting to close down saturday you could understand why he wasn't in the managers plans.