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Re: Knife crime in Cardiff , tonight BBC Wales
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Originally Posted by
rudy gestede
Yikes, racist creep.
What, racist for highlighting the bleedin' obvious? Did you watch the show?
If you didn't, you can watch it here: https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episod...d-the-violence
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Re: Knife crime in Cardiff , tonight BBC Wales
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Originally Posted by
Croesy Blue
Do you think people are naturally criminals just because they aren't white?
Or do you think maybe there are underlying socialogical issues that mean more non white people end up getting caught up in this stuff?
There's a myriad of reasons why those from every demographic commit crimes... a deprived background, poverty, awful nurturing, drug dependency, poor education, low IQ, raised in a single mother household and a combination of some of those probably account for the great majority of the UK prison population. You can add a moronic culture perpetuated by glorifying music produced by the like of Stormzy for why so many from ethnic minorities in cities join gangs, peddle drugs and stab people to a far greater extent pro rata. But whatever the underlying reasons - aside from the seriously mentally ill who occupy psychiatric hospitals instead of HMPs - all of them are identical in the most important respect because by their own volition they consciously choose to break laws and are responsible for their actions.
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Re: Knife crime in Cardiff , tonight BBC Wales
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Originally Posted by
Organ Morgan.
Fans of so-called diversity would have a difficult task spinning that programme positively. The reporter, coppers and Barry victim: all white. Everyone else featured: non-white.
You are a racist and you can try and spin it however you want.
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Re: Knife crime in Cardiff , tonight BBC Wales
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Originally Posted by
Organ Morgan.
There's a myriad of reasons why those from every demographic commit crimes... a deprived background, poverty, awful nurturing, drug dependency, poor education, low IQ, raised in a single mother household and a combination of some of those probably account for the great majority of the UK prison population. You can add a moronic culture perpetuated by glorifying music produced by the like of Stormzy for why so many from ethnic minorities in cities join gangs, peddle drugs and stab people to a far greater extent pro rata. But whatever the underlying reasons - aside from the seriously mentally ill who occupy psychiatric hospitals instead of HMPs - all of them are identical in the most important respect because by their own volition they consciously choose to break laws and are responsible for their actions.
You said everyone other than the reporter and the coppers weren't white so you must think that's the reason that they commit crimes.
I'll ask again do you think these people commit crimes simply because they aren't white. If not why mention it?
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Re: Knife crime in Cardiff , tonight BBC Wales
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Originally Posted by
Croesy Blue
You said everyone other than the reporter and the coppers weren't white so you must think that's the reason that they commit crimes.
I'll ask again do you think these people commit crimes simply because they aren't white. If not why mention it?
Don’t beat around the bush he’s a racist and has posted plenty of things that back that up.
People need to stop pussy footing around when it comes to stuff like this. His post proves how ignorant he his, don’t be polite and engage him just call him out.
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Re: Knife crime in Cardiff , tonight BBC Wales
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Originally Posted by
rudy gestede
You are a racist and you can try and spin it however you want.
This fella just has to be another racist in your fevered imagination. Though I'll guess rather than play that card you'll dismiss his views as those of an inverted self-hater instead of someone who expressed the truth.
Most pedophiles in UK are of Pakistani descent: British home secretary: https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...w/67275144.cms
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Re: Knife crime in Cardiff , tonight BBC Wales
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Originally Posted by
Croesy Blue
You said everyone other than the reporter and the coppers weren't white so you must think that's the reason that they commit crimes.
I'll ask again do you think these people commit crimes simply because they aren't white. If not why mention it?
Hell, do you have to be spoonfed everything? I made the point because Cardiff is overwhelmingly white. 2011 Census says 2.4% were black. I already addressed your other query with remarks made of that dumbed-down music scene. Didn't that register upstairs?
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Re: Knife crime in Cardiff , tonight BBC Wales
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Originally Posted by
CardiffIrish2
Knife crime definitely on the increase in Cardiff so my Police Officer friends say.
Seems to be the drugs gang thing but what’s worse is that 13/14 year olds are carrying.
All this happened coincidentally as the govt stripped police numbers, fancy that eh?
Did your police officer friends happen to mention whether knife carriers included a disproportionately high number drawn from ethnic minorities?
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Re: Knife crime in Cardiff , tonight BBC Wales
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Originally Posted by
Organ Morgan.
Hell, do you have to be spoonfed everything? I made the point because Cardiff is overwhelmingly white. 2011 Census says 2.4% were black. I already addressed your other query with remarks made of that dumbed-down music scene. Didn't that register upstairs?
And do you think they are criminal just because they're black? Or do you think there are actual reasons that are exaccerbated by how non white people have been treated and continue to be treated in this country?
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Re: Knife crime in Cardiff , tonight BBC Wales
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Originally Posted by
Organ Morgan.
This fella just has to be another racist in your fevered imagination. Though I'll guess rather than play that card you'll dismiss his views as those of an inverted self-hater instead of someone who expressed the truth.
Most pedophiles in UK are of Pakistani descent: British home secretary:
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...w/67275144.cms
I actually do think Javid is racist as it goes. Not because of this quote though.
It’s not the pointing out of the race that makes you a racist though, it’s the fact you tar every non white person with the same brush by saying “I’d like to see champions of so called diversity spin this”.
It doesn’t need to be spun the reason more black people are criminals isn’t because they’re black it’s because of how society treats non white people.
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Re: Knife crime in Cardiff , tonight BBC Wales
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Originally Posted by
Organ Morgan.
Fans of so-called diversity would have a difficult task spinning that programme positively. The reporter, coppers and Barry victim: all white. Everyone else featured: non-white.
Just to highlight again this is racist. Pointing out statistics isn’t racist but this is.
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Re: Knife crime in Cardiff , tonight BBC Wales
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
God knows what the answer to this is , armed police on every street corner , I used to enjoy going to the grangetown carnival but I hear that area of town is well dodgy at night
The programme insinuated some of it was down to county lines, the drug dealers from shitier parts of the UK, coming down and taking territory and local drug dealers and young couriers arming themselves for protection, and then it is spreading from there!
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Re: Knife crime in Cardiff , tonight BBC Wales
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Originally Posted by
goats
It reminds me of the gang violence that used to plague LA and New York, the police just basicallly let them wipe each other out
If memory serves one of the key developments which reduced gang related killings was the introduction of laws which basically made every gang member equally guilty of murder even though they may not have been present. Membership of the gang was enough to convict them
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Re: Knife crime in Cardiff , tonight BBC Wales
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Originally Posted by
rudy gestede
I actually do think Javid is racist as it goes. Not because of this quote though.
It’s not the pointing out of the race that makes you a racist though, it’s the fact you tar every non white person with the same brush by saying “I’d like to see champions of so called diversity spin this”.
It doesn’t need to be spun the reason more black people are criminals isn’t because they’re black it’s because of how society treats non white people.
But if that is so, and i'm not disputing it, why are most knife crimes "Black on Black" and not "Black on White" to retaliate against the way society treats them?
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Re: Knife crime in Cardiff , tonight BBC Wales
Who gets most caught up in knife crime? People involved in the drug trade at a low level
Who's more likely to be involved in the drug trade at a low level? People who are desperate for money
Who's most likely to be desperate for money? Poor people
Which part of society is more likely to be poor? Non white people
Who buys the most cocaine and doesn't get punished for it? Middle class white people.
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Re: Knife crime in Cardiff , tonight BBC Wales
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Originally Posted by
xsnaggle
But if that is so, and i'm not disputing it, why are most knife crimes "Black on Black" and not "Black on White" to retaliate against the way society treats them?
Isn’t the fact it’s black on black crime just proving the point even more?
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Re: Knife crime in Cardiff , tonight BBC Wales
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Originally Posted by
rudy gestede
Isn’t the fact it’s black on black crime just proving the point even more?
No
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Re: Knife crime in Cardiff , tonight BBC Wales
So do you think black people are just naturally more likely to be violent then?
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Re: Knife crime in Cardiff , tonight BBC Wales
Dont want to play this down but kids carried knives in my day. Not that they ever used them.
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Re: Knife crime in Cardiff , tonight BBC Wales
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Originally Posted by
rudy gestede
So do you think black people are just naturally more likely to be violent then?
You do like to twist shit to suit your own agenda don't you.
I was pointing out that you said that they were like they were because of the way "society" treats them, and asked why, if that was the case, the vast majority of knife crime is "black on Black" and not "Black oh White", as in against the society that treats them so badly.
I said nothing about any particular ethnic group being particularly any particular way. So why bring it into the argument. I suspect its because you cannot argue the simple point so you try to distract by throwing in something else.
But actually I don't give a toss unless someone starts stabbing me or mine!
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Re: Knife crime in Cardiff , tonight BBC Wales
Non white people are more likely to be involved in violent crime because of how society is.
I don’t see how you think the fact “black on black” crime happens is a counter point to that.
It’s not about retaliation, it’s about poorer people being involved in drugs and gangs and therefore more likely to be involved in knife crime.
How many people who are involved in knife crime do you think are rich and how many do you think are poor?
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Re: Knife crime in Cardiff , tonight BBC Wales
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Originally Posted by
rudy gestede
Non white people are more likely to be involved in violent crime because of how society is.
I don’t see how you think the fact “black on black” crime happens is a counter point to that.
It’s not about retaliation, it’s about poorer people being involved in drugs and gangs and therefore more likely to be involved in knife crime.
How many people who are involved in knife crime do you think are rich and how many do you think are poor?
Why are you asking me? I seem to recall I just said I'm not interested.
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Re: Knife crime in Cardiff , tonight BBC Wales
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Originally Posted by
xsnaggle
Why are you asking me? I seem to recall I just said I'm not interested.
Made a right tit of yourself :hehe:
“IF ITS BECAUSE OF SOCIETY WHY ARENT THEY STABBING WHITES”
It’s not the French Revolution mate :hehe:
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Re: Knife crime in Cardiff , tonight BBC Wales
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Originally Posted by
rudy gestede
I actually do think Javid is racist as it goes. Not because of this quote though.
It’s not the pointing out of the race that makes you a racist though, it’s the fact you tar every non white person with the same brush by saying “I’d like to see champions of so called diversity spin this”.
It doesn’t need to be spun the reason more black people are criminals isn’t because they’re black it’s because of how society treats non white people.
There are no excuse whatsoever for being a criminal, or plunging a knife into another person.
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Re: Knife crime in Cardiff , tonight BBC Wales
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Originally Posted by
rudy gestede
Made a right tit of yourself :hehe:
“IF ITS BECAUSE OF SOCIETY WHY ARENT THEY STABBING WHITES”
It’s not the French Revolution mate :hehe:
It's you making a tit of yourself, and keyboard 'shouting' just makes you look more of a knobber than you already appear. You cannot explain black on black crime as proof of your argument, so first try to deflect the argument and now start having a tantrum.
Time for your cocoa and bed I think.
you cannot let anything go, just like the WB/ Ronniedbird thing.
Get a life!
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Re: Knife crime in Cardiff , tonight BBC Wales
I’ve explained it mate, it’s not my fault you don’t understand.
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Re: Knife crime in Cardiff , tonight BBC Wales
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Originally Posted by
William Treseder
There are no excuse whatsoever for being a criminal, or plunging a knife into another person.
Who said it’s an excuse ?
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Re: Knife crime in Cardiff , tonight BBC Wales
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Originally Posted by
William Treseder
There are no excuse whatsoever for being a criminal, or plunging a knife into another person.
Yes there is.
It's the fault of white people. White people force them to do it. Some black young men have no free will, because of white people.
If you don't know that you must be a racist 🙄
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Re: Knife crime in Cardiff , tonight BBC Wales
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Originally Posted by
JDerrida
Yes there is.
It's the fault of white people. White people force them to do it. Some black young men have no free will, because of white people.
If you don't know that you must be a racist
Ah! you clearly fully understand what rudy was saying. Can you explain it to me please in words of 1 syllable because I'm a bit stupid and don't grasp it.
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Re: Knife crime in Cardiff , tonight BBC Wales
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Originally Posted by
rudy gestede
Who said it’s an excuse ?
You gave a reason why more black people are criminals. It came across as a bit of a lame excuse.
There are plenty of white criminals and killers all over the world. Doesn’t matter what skin colour, or creed, there are no excuses.