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It always been that way with that scummy paper. The Scottish version is always different Just shows what a hypocritical pile of shit it is.
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What a fiasco on BBC Question Time tonight. The guy from LBC radio who was probably the most sensible person on the panel could barely get a word in and was as frustrated as those in the audience. Let's trust that Ian Blackmore gets his beloved Scottish independence so Scotland can remain in the EU and then hopefully we won't have to hear from him in future. And I thought Sturgeon was a whinger!
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Originally Posted by
Gofer Blue
What a fiasco on BBC Question Time tonight. The guy from LBC radio who was probably the most sensible person on the panel could barely get a word in and was as frustrated as those in the audience. Let's trust that Ian Blackmore gets his beloved Scottish independence so Scotland can remain in the EU and then hopefully we won't have to hear from him in future. And I thought Sturgeon was a whinger!
You're forgetting Leila Moran and Emily Thornberry were on the show too so I'd put Dale way behind them. But I'm sure you'd agree that Richard Tice is freaky and Kwasi what's his name is worse than useless
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Dorcus
You're forgetting Leila Moran and Emily Thornberry were on the show too so I'd put Dale way behind them. But I'm sure you'd agree that Richard Tice is freaky and Kwasi what's his name is worse than useless
Ian Dale way behind Moran and Thornberry??
You must be joking he was the best there by a mile.
Thornberry tied herself in knots over Labours position if they won the election and have to negotiate a new deal ( once they agree a deal and bring it back for a referendum she would then campaign against it !!)
Moran kept going on about a second referendum saying that she would accept it if it said leave again but seem somewhat uncomfortable when Ian Dale told her that her leader had said she would never accept a leave result.
Tice and Kwarteng were not as bad as you say and Ian Blackford wittered on about Scotland as usual.
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the other bob wilson
did anyone else think he was utterly useless in the Commons yesterday? Maybe when/if he gets his election, he'll prove himself to be a brilliant campaigner, but, watching him at the Despatch box yesterday, I began to think his proroguing of Parliament and eagerness to have an election was more down to a desperation to avoid things like PMQs than some masterly plan to make sure we Brexited on 31 October.
He looked rattled which is a suprise as he must have known the numbers and opposition to his plans .
He doesn't read prepared stuff and must be a nightmare to brief.
The only option too this impass is an election , which will be a leave or stay election unfortunately , and our home issues will be lost in the noise of Brexit .
However the election needs a hunger on all sides .
Option two sign up too Mays withdrawal agreement , and fix the country.
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Originally Posted by
Gofer Blue
What a fiasco on BBC Question Time tonight. The guy from LBC radio who was probably the most sensible person on the panel could barely get a word in and was as frustrated as those in the audience. Let's trust that Ian Blackmore gets his beloved Scottish independence so Scotland can remain in the EU and then hopefully we won't have to hear from him in future. And I thought Sturgeon was a whinger!
The SNP just moan and groan thats the thanks you get for giving them greater devolution powers, greedy buggers.
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Originally Posted by
the other bob wilson
did anyone else think he was utterly useless in the Commons yesterday? Maybe when/if he gets his election, he'll prove himself to be a brilliant campaigner, but, watching him at the Despatch box yesterday, I began to think his proroguing of Parliament and eagerness to have an election was more down to a desperation to avoid things like PMQs than some masterly plan to make sure we Brexited on 31 October.
A couple of days later. How is Boris doing now?
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lardy
A couple of days later. How is Boris doing now?
He's either still be fighting against the EU tyranny that you wholeheartedly support, or he may even be one of you. Who knows?
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Originally Posted by
Dorcus
You're forgetting Leila Moran and Emily Thornberry were on the show too so I'd put Dale way behind them. But I'm sure you'd agree that Richard Tice is freaky and Kwasi what's his name is worse than useless
Dale way behind Moran and Thornberry - you must be joking! The usual Thornberry cool, calm demeanour was not in evidence last night, especially after she admitted that she would campaign to remain in the event of a second referendum after a new deal was negotiated - what a farce!
That Moran lady seems to think the result of a second referendum is going to be a landslide in favour of remain. Why does she (and other remainers) think this will be the case - have I missed some important opinion poll or something? IMO it will be a very close result again as people have become more and more entrenched. Which way it would go I wouldn't like to say, especially as there will be a lot more 18 years old able to vote this time (who mainly seem to be in favour of staying in the EU) and presumably quite a few of us old codgers will have "passed on" since the first referendum!
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Dorcus
I agree entirely Johnson is rubbish but I think you are being unfair on Jeremy. He may not be the brains behind the new project (That's more like J McD, Starmer and Thornberry) but boy what a figurehead he is to galvanise the support of the young and disenfranchised.
You actually believe that don't you ?
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RonnieBird
You actually believe that don't you ?
Absolutely!!! I'm actually gobsmacked a minority of people can't seem to grasp it. Hasta la Victoria siempre!
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Wales-Bales
He's either still be fighting against the EU tyranny that you wholeheartedly support, or he may even be one of you. Who knows?
😂🤔🤔
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Dorcus
Absolutely!!! I'm actually gobsmacked a minority of people can't seem to grasp it. Hasta la Victoria siempre!
Why is he so low in the polls disliked in his party , not likely to win an available election , against an absolute buffoon??
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Dorcus
Absolutely!!! I'm actually gobsmacked a minority of people can't seem to grasp it. Hasta la Victoria siempre!
A minority of people can't see it??
Have you seen his poll ratings recently?
Well not just recently!
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Dorcus
Absolutely!!! I'm actually gobsmacked a minority of people can't seem to grasp it. (Hasta la Victoria siempre) !
(Hasta la Victoria siempre
Argh yes, another failed south american failed socialist experiment, how many is that now , I wonder how many have died in these experiments after being delivred and controlled by miltia and life long president's.
Democracy 😂
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Originally Posted by
Dorcus
Absolutely!!! I'm actually gobsmacked a minority of people can't seem to grasp it. Hasta la Victoria siempre!
See, there you have it. In your mind it's only a minority of people who disagree with you on this or other issues, although that's just not so.
If you absolutely have to confront the reality, then it's because the " minority" as you call them - in sane talk the "majority", are stupid, ill informed or wicked and must be ignored.
These are the thought patterns of tyrants and their brainwashed acolytes I'm afraid.
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life on mars
(Hasta la Victoria siempre
Argh yes, another failed south american failed socialist experiment, how many is that now , I wonder how many have died in these experiments after being delivred and controlled by miltia and life long president's.
Democracy 😂
Give it time son, give it time
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RonnieBird
See, there you have it. In your mind it's only a minority of people who disagree with you on this or other issues, although that's just not so.
If you absolutely have to confront the reality, then it's because the " minority" as you call them - in sane talk the "majority", are stupid, ill informed or wicked and must be ignored.
These are the thought patterns of tyrants and their brainwashed acolytes I'm afraid.
Yes well we all know where you're coming from Sir Jim
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What bothers me is that Boris is the only one who actually wants to finish this mess and half of those preventing him are not doing it because they dont want no deal but because they want to overturn the referendum.
All these MP's know what they don't want but no matter how many forced extensions you get none of them can agree on what they do want.
Eventually the EU will refuse an extension and then we're out anyway.
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xsnaggle
What bothers me is that Boris is the only one who actually wants to finish this mess and half of those preventing him are not doing it because they dont want no deal but because they want to overturn the referendum.
All these MP's know what they don't want but no matter how many forced extensions you get none of them can agree on what they do want.
Eventually the EU will refuse an extension and then we're out anyway.
The mess you refer to that ‘Boris one leave one remain article each’ is one of the main instigators of. That duplicitous arsehole would burn the country to be king of the ashes.
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xsnaggle
What bothers me is that Boris is the only one who actually wants to finish this mess and half of those preventing him are not doing it because they dont want no deal but because they want to overturn the referendum.
All these MP's know what they don't want but no matter how many forced extensions you get none of them can agree on what they do want.
Eventually the EU will refuse an extension and then we're out anyway.
It's only a second referendum which will settle this otherwise it'll go on for years and years sucking the lifeblood out of anything else. I'm baffled why Leavers are so afraid to give it back to the people to decide.
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Great headline from the Telegraph today. I mean what are they thinking????
. ‘Boris Johnson would rather defy the law than ask for another Brexit delay, he has indicated, as Labour was accused of plunging Britain into a constitutional crisis’
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CardiffIrish2
Great headline from the Telegraph today. I mean what are they thinking????
. ‘Boris Johnson would rather defy the law than ask for another Brexit delay, he has indicated, as Labour was accused of plunging Britain into a constitutional crisis’
I have to admit Irish I'm enjoying this psychodrama. It's got to be the best soap ever. Anyone know when the sequel will be shown ... "Britain the Gangster State"?
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Dorcus
I have to admit Irish I'm enjoying this psychodrama. It's got to be the best soap ever. Anyone know when thuel will be shown ... "Britain the Gangster State"?
Guy Richie is interested in filming it. Jason Statham playing Cummins and Brad Pitt in a fat Suit playing Boris Johnson.
‘You need some minerals Boris Corbyn’s mugging you off’
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Some real short sighted stuff if one thinks this is all down to Boris .
The opposition could have stopped him in his tracks a long time ago .
But they are now enjoying the fame and headlines, delays ,phillbustering all in hope it gets them votes.
Ironically they are pissing on a democrat vote and its people.
Shame on them all .
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life on mars
Some real short sighted stuff if one thinks this is all down to Boris .
The opposition could have stopped him in his tracks a long time ago .
But they are now enjoying the fame and headlines, delays ,phillbustering all in hope it gets them votes.
Ironically they are pissing on a democrat vote and its people.
Shame on them all .
Classic lifeonmars
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Is it true that the Remain MPs colluded with the EU about a 3 month extension before they introduced the bill to prevent a no-deal Brexit?
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Wales-Bales
Is it true that the Remain MPs colluded with the EU about a 3 month extension before they introduced the bill to prevent a no-deal Brexit?
Is that lawful ?
There's been other little chats I bet between Europe and others parties about disruptive behaviours in parliamentary so the can gets kicked down the road to stop Brexit .
So democratic.
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Classic lifeonmars
Thanks , thought it was one of my better attempts, glad you appreciated the content .
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Originally Posted by
life on mars
Some real short sighted stuff if one thinks this is all down to Boris .
The opposition could have stopped him in his tracks a long time ago .
But they are now enjoying the fame and headlines, delays ,phillbustering all in hope it gets them votes.
Ironically they are pissing on a democrat vote and its people.
Shame on them all .
Did that democratic vote include a specific and categoric option to leave with NO DEAL?
If Yes
What percentage of people voted for NO DEAL in that vote?
If No
What percentage of people voted for parties advocating NO DEAL in 2017?
If Greater than 50% - Then NO DEAL is mandated by the people
If less than 50% - Then
What options remain?
1) Leave with NO DEAL.... but there is no mandate. How do we find out how what the British people want?
General Election? But that is fought on other grounds, not just Brexit. Some people, vote for a good MP, some vote for education or crime, not all vote on Brexit. Result - INCONCLUSIVE!
Second referendum? But what is the question?
2) Leave with a deal... but what deal? 17.4 million people voted for many different reasons ranging from complete distrust of the EU, kicking Cameron in the bollocks, remaining in the FTA, having a good deal (easiest in history), xenophobia, and cutting ties altogether.
May was a shit PM. Johnson is going to be the shortest lived PM in history, and the worst (current record holder died in office, wasn't short-lived because he was shit). But none of this would have been possible if Cameron had been a strong PM. For me, the damage Cameron did will last generations, regardless of the outcome of us remaining, leaving, dealing with the EU. May tried her best with a shit hand, I'm starting to appreciate her more as each Johnson-Cummings infested, poker playing, manipulating shitfest takes place. Johnson can kill the UK off, so he has to be stopped. It's that simple.
I'm lucky, I am in the US working and earning. But, if I was doing this job in the UK I'd now be considering emigrating, or staying and stock piling food, money and water because I know a no deal on Oct 31 would mean I'd be out of work by November 30. Hyper inflation on its way to the UK, get your wheelbarrows ready filled with all your decreasing currency. And, you brought it on yourselves because you didn't like people speaking different languages on a 5 minute bus ride.