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Re: Warnocks Pro Brexit rant afrer todays game including "To hell with the rest of the world"
The Guardian reported it like this
Neil Warnock has used a post-match press conference to attack the government’s handling of Brexit negotiations – insisting a clean exit from the EU will be better for Britain “football-wise”, and “in every aspect”.
The Cardiff City manager, speaking following his side’s 0-0 draw with Huddersfield, dismissed claims that Brexit will make it harder for Premier League clubs to sign players – then called on Theresa May to deliver on the referendum result.
“I think once the country knows what they’re doing, it will be straightforward [to make signings] … Any transfer window is difficult for me, not just this one.”
He continued: “I don’t know why politicians don’t do what the country wants, if I’m honest. They had a referendum and now we see different politicians and everyone else trying to put their foot in it … Why did we have a referendum in the first bloody place?
“I can’t wait to get out of it, if I’m honest. I think we’ll be far better out of the bloody thing. In every aspect. Football-wise as well, absolutely. To hell with the rest of the world.”
He is a bloke who speaks what is on his mind, we know that, we used to hate it when he wasnt with us, we love it now ( Fickle football fan shocker )
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Re: Warnocks Pro Brexit rant afrer todays game including "To hell with the rest of the world"
If this was any other manager we'd be all laughing saying that his head has gone, this was totally embarrassing for Neil and Cardiff city
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Re: Warnocks Pro Brexit rant afrer todays game including "To hell with the rest of the world"
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Originally Posted by
jamieccfc
If this was any other manager we'd be all laughing saying that his head has gone, this was totally embarrassing for Neil and Cardiff city
And yet the majority of journalists and their headlines are Warnock talking about Brexit, and not talking about a piss poor performance or a lack of strategy in the transfer window.
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Re: Warnocks Pro Brexit rant afrer todays game including "To hell with the rest of the world"
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Originally Posted by
Stavross1927
And yet the majority of journalists and their headlines are Warnock talking about Brexit, and not talking about a piss poor performance or a lack of strategy in the transfer window.
Piss-poor performance - not entirely unexpected.
Lack of strategy in the transfer window - not entirely unexpected.
Manager of a multi-cultural football club who's allegedly trying to bring in players from Europe banging on about Brexit and saying "to hell with the rest of the world" - entirely unexpected. Hence the headlines.
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Re: Warnocks Pro Brexit rant afrer todays game including "To hell with the rest of the world"
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Originally Posted by
dml1954
Did you join the forum just to insult one of the best managers we have ever had ?
No. I joined this forum when Lennie Lawrence was manager.
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Re: Warnocks Pro Brexit rant afrer todays game including "To hell with the rest of the world"
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Originally Posted by
Swiss Peter
No. I joined this forum when Lennie Lawrence was manager.
:hehe: :hehe:
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Re: Warnocks Pro Brexit rant afrer todays game including "To hell with the rest of the world"
I just watched the interview and there is no way it was calculated to deflect. He looks completely pissed off and I think it was just a rant
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Re: Warnocks Pro Brexit rant afrer todays game including "To hell with the rest of the world"
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Originally Posted by
blue matt
The Guardian reported it like this
Neil Warnock has used a post-match press conference to attack the government’s handling of Brexit negotiations – insisting a clean exit from the EU will be better for Britain “football-wise”, and “in every aspect”.
The Cardiff City manager, speaking following his side’s 0-0 draw with Huddersfield, dismissed claims that Brexit will make it harder for Premier League clubs to sign players – then called on Theresa May to deliver on the referendum result.
“I think once the country knows what they’re doing, it will be straightforward [to make signings] … Any transfer window is difficult for me, not just this one.”
He continued: “I don’t know why politicians don’t do what the country wants, if I’m honest. They had a referendum and now we see different politicians and everyone else trying to put their foot in it … Why did we have a referendum in the first bloody place?
“I can’t wait to get out of it, if I’m honest. I think we’ll be far better out of the bloody thing. In every aspect. Football-wise as well, absolutely. To hell with the rest of the world.”
He is a bloke who speaks what is on his mind, we know that, we used to hate it when he wasnt with us, we love it now ( Fickle football fan shocker )
He’s a bloke speaking his mind and being made to look backwards and thick though. No one minds someone speaking their mind but the context is important.
“To hell with the rest of the world” is about as small minded as you can get.
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Re: Warnocks Pro Brexit rant afrer todays game including "To hell with the rest of the world"
Shows how boring yesterdays game was and how little we managed to accomplish.
Warnock usually does his usual "deflect attention from the players onto himself" shtick by referencing something that happens during the game (see the "no handshake" incident with Wolves last season). This time he had to pull something as random as Brexit out of his arse.
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Re: Warnocks Pro Brexit rant afrer todays game including "To hell with the rest of the world"
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Originally Posted by
Stavross1927
And yet the majority of journalists and their headlines are Warnock talking about Brexit, and not talking about a piss poor performance or a lack of strategy in the transfer window.
I agree with the 'piss poor performance' comment, but to be fair to the club and Warnock there is clearly a strategy for this window - but one that hasn't worked (yet).
We know he is looking for a striker, a defensive midfielder and a right back. The club was putting lists of targets together from October. The main markets they were looking in were England, Scotland and France. Warnock and his coaches have been out to watch players and games and check out scouting reports, and to speak directly to players, agents and club owners or executives. They thought they had two deals almost agreed in December (including fees, wages and personal terms) but the goalposts moved. All of that adds up to a strategy, if so far an unsuccessful one.
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Re: Warnocks Pro Brexit rant afrer todays game including "To hell with the rest of the world"
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Originally Posted by
Tuerto
:hehe:
Nobody's talking about the performance anymore
The Nuno feck off thing, Clyne and now this, what's next? Will he read from a self published book of poetry? Sing an ABBA medley? He could do anything
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Re: Warnocks Pro Brexit rant afrer todays game including "To hell with the rest of the world"
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Originally Posted by
J R Hartley
:hehe: :hehe:
Old DML can’t help himself. I’m sure he’s Warnocks brother 😂
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Re: Warnocks Pro Brexit rant afrer todays game including "To hell with the rest of the world"
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Originally Posted by
thehumblegringo
I just watched the interview and there is no way it was calculated to deflect. He looks completely pissed off and I think it was just a rant
Humble- i agree.
When i first read about them i thought he's just deflecting. However now ive seen it i agree with you- its just a rant from him- again.
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Re: Warnocks Pro Brexit rant afrer todays game including "To hell with the rest of the world"
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Originally Posted by
thehumblegringo
I just watched the interview and there is no way it was calculated to deflect. He looks completely pissed off and I think it was just a rant
The man's a true thespian :hehe:
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Re: Warnocks Pro Brexit rant afrer todays game including "To hell with the rest of the world"
I can’t get behind a fella like that sorry. Not the type of person I’d want in charge of the club I support either.
Bit silly of him considering Cardiff voted remain.
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Re: Warnocks Pro Brexit rant afrer todays game including "To hell with the rest of the world"
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Originally Posted by
dml1954
Did you join the forum just to insult one of the best managers we have ever had ?
I think Swiss Peter was just deflecting. Don’t read too much into it.
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Re: Warnocks Pro Brexit rant afrer todays game including "To hell with the rest of the world"
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Originally Posted by
Divine Wright
I can’t get behind a fella like that sorry. Not the type of person I’d want in charge of the club I support either.
Bit silly of him considering Cardiff voted remain.
The majority of 70 year old white males voted leave.
I'd rather him keep his political ramblings out of the press room but providing he keeps us up he'll do.
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Re: Warnocks Pro Brexit rant afrer todays game including "To hell with the rest of the world"
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Originally Posted by
Father Dougal
People used to say mourinho was brilliant at deflecting things with the media. However once people totally saw through it he just looked ridiculous and pitiful.
Im afraid Warnock is coming across as the same.
On the pitch he's still doing a remarkable job (how are we not in the bottom 3??) but off the pitch hes been found wanting this season.
Who gives a sod about what he does off the pitch ?
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Re: Warnocks Pro Brexit rant afrer todays game including "To hell with the rest of the world"
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Originally Posted by
Swiss Peter
No. I joined this forum when Lennie Lawrence was manager.
Pray enlighten everyone as to what your previous user name(s) was then, so a more informed judgement can be made as to what your real agenda is. Also, I will rephrase my question - did you rejoin the forum just so that you could insult one of the best managers that we have ever had ?
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Re: Warnocks Pro Brexit rant afrer todays game including "To hell with the rest of the world"
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Originally Posted by
dml1954
Pray enlighten everyone as to what your previous user name(s) was then, so a more informed judgement can be made as to what your real agenda is.
I'm going to take a wild guess and say it was Swiss Pete - somebody I remember posting on here way back when I initially joined the forum in around 2000 or thereabouts.
I don't remember dml1954, though. That particular comedian seems to have appeared on this board relatively recently.
:thumbup:
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Re: Warnocks Pro Brexit rant afrer todays game including "To hell with the rest of the world"
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Originally Posted by
Divine Wright
I can’t get behind a fella like that sorry. Not the type of person I’d want in charge of the club I support either.
Bit silly of him considering Cardiff voted remain.
Just because you disagree with his views on brexit, you dont want him to manage the club !! How crass is that comment. Also Cardiff didnt vote to remain - the whole of the UK voted to leave. It wasnt a Cardiff vote. Thats how referendums work.
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Re: Warnocks Pro Brexit rant afrer todays game including "To hell with the rest of the world"
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Originally Posted by
The Lone Gunman
I'm going to take a wild guess and say it was Swiss Pete - somebody I remember posting on here way back when I initially joined the forum in around 2000 or thereabouts.
I don't remember dml1954, though. That particular comedian seems to have appeared on this board relatively recently.
:thumbup:
I remember Swiss Pete from many years ago also, around the time of you and Vic. having your late night "chats" :hehe:
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Re: Warnocks Pro Brexit rant afrer todays game including "To hell with the rest of the world"
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Originally Posted by
dml1954
Just because you disagree with his views on brexit, you dont want him to manage the club !! How crass is that comment. Also Cardiff didnt vote to remain - the whole of the UK voted to leave. It wasnt a Cardiff vote. Thats how referendums work.
How petty can you get ? It's as much of a fact Cardiff voted to remain as the UK voted to leave.
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Re: Warnocks Pro Brexit rant afrer todays game including "To hell with the rest of the world"
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Originally Posted by
dml1954
Just because you disagree with his views on brexit, you dont want him to manage the club !! How crass is that comment. Also Cardiff didnt vote to remain - the whole of the UK voted to leave. It wasnt a Cardiff vote. Thats how referendums work.
Warnock is being interviewed as CCFC manager in club attire. If he wants to spout political views to someone prepared to listen he can do that at home with his wife, not while representing the club, its crass.
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Re: Warnocks Pro Brexit rant afrer todays game including "To hell with the rest of the world"
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Originally Posted by
The Lone Gunman
I'm going to take a wild guess and say it was Swiss Pete - somebody I remember posting on here way back when I initially joined the forum in around 2000 or thereabouts.
I don't remember dml1954, though. That particular comedian seems to have appeared on this board relatively recently.
:thumbup:
The date I joined is clearly visble on all my posts. Unfortunately quite a few people seem to like to disguise themselves on this board, for some unknown reason. It clearly stated on his post that he joined in December 2018 and had made 4 contributions to date, so in the absence of any reliable evidence to the contrary, I will assume that to be correct. Perhaps he was one of those people, like you, who pretended not to be a supporter for a while and said that he would never go to the ground again, only to reappear, miraculously, when we got promoted.
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Re: Warnocks Pro Brexit rant afrer todays game including "To hell with the rest of the world"
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Originally Posted by
soulsurfer3
Warnock is being interviewed as CCFC manager in club attire. If he wants to spout political views to someone prepared to listen he can do that at home with his wife, not while representing the club, its crass.
If Wales Online stick a microphone in his face and ask him a question about Brexit, what do you expect him to do ? You just dont like his answer. If he refused to answer or lied, people would be queung up to have a go at him for that. I would rather have a manager who spoke his mind any day. His opinion on Brexit isnt political either - it has absolutely nothing to do with which party he supports.
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Re: Warnocks Pro Brexit rant afrer todays game including "To hell with the rest of the world"
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Originally Posted by
Der Kaiser
How petty can you get ? It's as much of a fact Cardiff voted to remain as the UK voted to leave.
Why hasn't Cardiff applied to remain in the EU then ?
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Re: Warnocks Pro Brexit rant afrer todays game including "To hell with the rest of the world"
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Originally Posted by
dml1954
Why hasn't Cardiff applied to remain in the EU then ?
Because its a City.
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Re: Warnocks Pro Brexit rant afrer todays game including "To hell with the rest of the world"
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Originally Posted by
dml1954
Pray enlighten everyone as to what your previous user name(s) was then, so a more informed judgement can be made as to what your real agenda is. Also, I will rephrase my question - did you rejoin the forum just so that you could insult one of the best managers that we have ever had ?
I was previously, urmmm, Swiss Pete - for some reason I wasn't able to re-register with that name.
As to why I have re-joined, no, I don't have an agenda (well, not any more, anyway:-)). I have nothing particularly against Warnock - his achievements with the club speak for themselves. However, I found his rant last night totally unnecessary and rather daft.
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Re: Warnocks Pro Brexit rant afrer todays game including "To hell with the rest of the world"
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Originally Posted by
dml1954
The date I joined is clearly visble on all my posts. Unfortunately quite a few people seem to like to disguise themselves on this board, for some unknown reason. It clearly stated on his post that he joined in December 2018 and had made 4 contributions to date, so in the absence of any reliable evidence to the contrary, I will assume that to be correct. Perhaps he was one of those people, like you, who pretended not to be a supporter for a while and said that he would never go to the ground again, only to reappear, miraculously, when we got promoted.
Yep, I'm only here for all the glory :hehe:
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Re: Warnocks Pro Brexit rant afrer todays game including "To hell with the rest of the world"
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Originally Posted by
dml1954
If Wales Online stick a microphone in his face and ask him a question about Brexit, what do you expect him to do ? You just dont like his answer. If he refused to answer or lied, people would be queung up to have a go at him for that. I would rather have a manager who spoke his mind any day. His opinion on Brexit isnt political either - it has absolutely nothing to do with which party he supports.
I don`t like the fact that he didn`t have the ability to concentrate on the team performance, his decision to play injured players, his decision to leave 30 million quids worth of signings unused on the bench. I didn`t like the fact he switches the line to his thoughts on Brexit and not the real problems affecting the team, fans, club and performance. He`s had two years of success, now is the time to show he has a plan B , don`t hold your breath .
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Re: Warnocks Pro Brexit rant afrer todays game including "To hell with the rest of the world"
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Originally Posted by
dml1954
The date I joined is clearly visble on all my posts.
April 2015? A glory-hunting newbie then.
:hehe:
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Re: Warnocks Pro Brexit rant afrer todays game including "To hell with the rest of the world"
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Originally Posted by
dml1954
Perhaps he was one of those people, like you, who pretended not to be a supporter for a while and said that he would never go to the ground again, only to reappear, miraculously, when we got promoted.
Incidentally, I never said any such thing, but then understanding what people have said and why they have said it appears to be one of your many weaknesses, so you're forgiven.
:hehe:
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Re: Warnocks Pro Brexit rant afrer todays game including "To hell with the rest of the world"
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Originally Posted by
dml1954
His opinion on Brexit isnt political either.....
:hehe::hehe::hehe:
You're on form this afternoon, that's for sure.
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Re: Warnocks Pro Brexit rant afrer todays game including "To hell with the rest of the world"
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Originally Posted by
Swiss Peter
I was previously, urmmm, Swiss Pete - for some reason I wasn't able to re-register with that name.
As to why I have re-joined, no, I don't have an agenda (well, not any more, anyway:-)). I have nothing particularly against Warnock - his achievements with the club speak for themselves. However, I found his rant last night totally unnecessary and rather daft.
Thanks for answering yourself and clearing up where you stand. Dont know why other people get involved answering on your behalf really, it just muddies the water. I would much rather have a manager like Warnock who answers questions put to him truthfully, rather than like Mourinho who says nothing to anyone and sometimes doesnt even turn up to press conferences. My comment about being a fickle fan was mainly aimed at TLG, who seems to take great delight in getting involved in other peoples conversations and appears to enjoy creating as much chaos as possible, for reasons that most people know well. Welcome back then.
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Originally Posted by
the other bob wilson
Exactly.
He's a Brexit god ,I very much doubt European players are offended if even care , the simple fact is they don't want to come to Cardiff they want Manchester ,London. They won't say ooooh not going there , that's the nasty Brexit club , they would look at the contract value and say yes or no . I hate to tell if they do come millions of footy fans think as Warnock does.
And yes he loves to divert the conversation after poor performances, and he does it well,and not the first or last manager to do so either
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Originally Posted by
City123
Nobody's talking about the performance anymore
The Nuno feck off thing, Clyne and now this, what's next? Will he read from a self published book of poetry? Sing an ABBA medley? He could do anything
This isn't thought out or calculated, it's the ramblings of a pissed up uncle at a family do at the local cons club, the only thing missing is a shit buffet and some Fat people trying to dance in the background.
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Re: Warnocks Pro Brexit rant afrer todays game including "To hell with the rest of the world"
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Originally Posted by
dml1954
Just because you disagree with his views on brexit, you dont want him to manage the club !! How crass is that comment. Also Cardiff didnt vote to remain - the whole of the UK voted to leave. It wasnt a Cardiff vote. Thats how referendums work.
This is such a ridiculous thing to say, Cardiff as a region voted to remain by 101,788 votes to 67,816. That's just a fact and trying to say otherwise just makes you look stupid. Here's a breakdown of all Welsh regions for you
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/p...s-map-11510374
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Re: Warnocks Pro Brexit rant afrer todays game including "To hell with the rest of the world"
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Originally Posted by
The Lone Gunman
:hehe::hehe::hehe:
You're on form this afternoon, that's for sure.
Please tell me why Brexit is political. As many Labour supporters voted to leave as Conservative ones. It has been hyjacked now for Political point scoring by all sides but the original concept was a non political free vote.
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Re: Warnocks Pro Brexit rant afrer todays game including "To hell with the rest of the world"
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Originally Posted by
The Lone Gunman
:hehe::hehe::hehe:
You're on form this afternoon, that's for sure.
It's a view,or choice , perhaps not really politics , wasn't Brexit based on that ,where voters and MPs gave up their normal political allegiance ,for a life choice and decesion.