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Re: OK, the gloves are off .......over rated bands
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J R Hartley
Along with Nas he was probably the most influential hip hop star of a generation before his untimely death. Yes he’s sold more albums as a result of his death but also because his music still resonates with future generations. He rapped about social issues which still haven’t been addressed today.
Overated? Sold more T-shirt’s than albums? The man has sold over 75m albums ffs :hehe:
Not disagreeing with you, just not my bag
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Re: OK, the gloves are off .......over rated bands
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Originally Posted by
UNDERHILL1927
Not disagreeing with you, just not my bag
That’s fair enough mate, takes all sorts, I was agreeing with you that just because music isn’t to your taste doesn’t mean they are overated.
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Re: OK, the gloves are off .......over rated bands
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Originally Posted by
J R Hartley
That’s fair enough mate, takes all sorts, I was agreeing with you that just because music isn’t to your taste doesn’t mean they are overated.
✌️ I can still appreciate his talent, that's what makes music so loved as it's personal to each individual.
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Fontaines DC
I listen to 6Music a fair bit and they seem to have a love-in for an artist every now and then, thats basically a promotion campaign the artist could only dream of. Some are justified like Idles or Public Service Broadcasting, but others like Fontaines DC to me dont offer anything new that plenty of other bands already do.
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Re: OK, the gloves are off .......over rated bands
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Originally Posted by
The Bloop
Fontaines DC
I listen to 6Music a fair bit and they seem to have a love-in for an artist every now and then, thats basically a promotion campaign the artist could only dream of. Some are justified like Idles or Public Service Broadcasting, but others like Fontaines DC to me dont offer anything new that plenty of other bands already do.
For me, Fontaines DC are great, I loved their new album
Not a fan of Idles. I just can't stand his voice
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Originally Posted by
delmbox
Don't be so sensitive, it's clearly a thread where people share their own opinions about bands that are overrated
Stop being logical. You should know by now that we don't do that here
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Re: OK, the gloves are off .......over rated bands
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Originally Posted by
J R Hartley
I can think of many manufactured bands more interested in selling merchandise than albums but to claim Nirvana, Amy Winehouse and Tupac of this strategy is absolutely absurd :hehe:
Cobain, Winehouse and Tupac were all immensely talented.
Who said that?
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Re: OK, the gloves are off .......over rated bands
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Originally Posted by
mazadona10
Who said that?
You did.
You’ve had a mare with that post.
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Re: OK, the gloves are off .......over rated bands
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Originally Posted by
J R Hartley
You did.
You’ve had a mare with that post.
Didn't though did I.
The point was their record sales are hardly impressive. Tupac I admit has sold more since he died however the factor is that kids jumped onto the bandwagon as it being popular. His sales beforehand suggested he was nothing special. Winehouse has sold little probably less than 15 million albums which is next to nothing.
People become more adored and talented when they aren't around.
You can have your opinion on what's good or bad but numbers tell you who are the most successful.
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
Floyd ......some right silly nonsense , after waters left even worse . Wish you were here i can handle just about
Clash .....not into them at all , Londons burning is a great song but thats it , don't understand the fuss
Red hot chilli peppers ......first few albums ok but then very samey
Radiohead .....christ no
Stones .....never like that lot
Guns N Roses .......dreadful overhyped Aerosmith copy cats
Manic Street Preachers , Kevin Carter, Motorcycle Emptyness, thats it
Stereophonics .......pub band , annoying voice
AcDc since bon Scott died, one or two good songs but generally just going through the motions
Queen , that live performance at the Hammersmith apollo in 75 was immense but I never saw what the fuss was about after the early days
The clash ‘London’s burning?’ .....I haven’t heard that cover yet!! Call the engine, call the engine. Fire, fire!!😉
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Re: OK, the gloves are off .......over rated bands
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Originally Posted by
mazadona10
Didn't though did I.
The point was their record sales are hardly impressive. Tupac I admit has sold more since he died however the factor is that kids jumped onto the bandwagon as it being popular. His sales beforehand suggested he was nothing special. Winehouse has sold little probably less than 15 million albums which is next to nothing.
People become more adored and talented when they aren't around.
You can have your opinion on what's good or bad but numbers tell you who are the most successful.
Back to Black was one of the best selling albums of the decade.
She won 5 Grammys for it when she was still alive ffs.
To suggest she only become succesful because she died young is nonsense.
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Originally Posted by
J R Hartley
Back to Black was one of the best selling albums of the decade.
She won 5 Grammys for it when she was still alive ffs.
To suggest she only become succesful because she died young is nonsense.
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Re: OK, the gloves are off .......over rated bands
Bob Dylan
:hide:
Good writer, shit voice
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Re: OK, the gloves are off .......over rated bands
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Originally Posted by
Fancydan
The clash ‘London’s burning?’ .....I haven’t heard that cover yet!! Call the engine, call the engine. Fire, fire!!
its a single on" The Clash"
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Packerman
its a single on" The Clash"
Merry Christmas Dibble, hope its a good one for you and the management
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Re: OK, the gloves are off .......over rated bands
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Feedback
Merry Christmas Dibble, hope its a good one for you and the management
And you mate :xmasthumbup:
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Re: OK, the gloves are off .......over rated bands
I'm going to wade into this thread and proclaim myself as a musical illiterate. I'm always fascinated by music threads and the replies, how people carry music into their lives, what it means to them etc. I enjoy music but i don't have a passion for it or sixth sense as some people seem to have. I don't notice what some others do, certain sounds just don't resonate with me, that's why i'm always intrigued and fascinated to read other peoples feelings and the emotions that certain artists, sounds etc can garner.
The other aspect, a bit like most things i suppose, is can any of you listen to your favourite artists at any given moment? Isn't music an emotional entity? Someone maybe a massive fan of Bowie, but even his biggest fan has to be in the correct mood or frame of mind to listen to him-surely? Maybe i'm over complicating it a bit to much :hehe:
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Re: OK, the gloves are off .......over rated bands
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Originally Posted by
bobh
Bob Dylan
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Good writer, shit voice
I'm not a fan. I can see how important and influential he is. Some of his stuff from the early/mid 60s is good. But for me, his stuff from the 70s onwards is horrible. That song Tangled Up in Blue grates on my verses.
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Re: OK, the gloves are off .......over rated bands
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Originally Posted by
Tuerto
I'm going to wade into this thread and proclaim myself as a musical illiterate. I'm always fascinated by music threads and the replies, how people carry music into their lives, what it means to them etc. I enjoy music but i don't have a passion for it or sixth sense as some people seem to have. I don't notice what some others do, certain sounds just don't resonate with me, that's why i'm always intrigued and fascinated to read other peoples feelings and the emotions that certain artists, sounds etc can garner.
The other aspect, a bit like most things i suppose, is can any of you listen to your favourite artists at any given moment? Isn't music an emotional entity? Someone maybe a massive fan of Bowie, but even his biggest fan has to be in the correct mood or frame of mind to listen to him-surely? Maybe i'm over complicating it a bit to much :hehe:
I think I could listen to Bowie at any time. Obviously, I don't. But if my wife said "let's put a Bowie album on", I can't imagine ever saying no.
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Re: OK, the gloves are off .......over rated bands
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NYCBlue
I think I could listen to Bowie at any time. Obviously, I don't. But if my wife said "let's put a Bowie album on", I can't imagine ever saying no.
Even listening to sabbath day in day out can become a bit much
I try and have Thursdays off
Or every other Thursday
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Re: OK, the gloves are off .......over rated bands
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
Even listening to sabbath day in day out can become a bit much
I try and have Thursdays off
Or every other Thursday
I will occasionally listen to the first six Sabbath albums consecutively. Great way to spend an afternoon.
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Originally Posted by
NYCBlue
I think the Talking Heads are overrated. I think Prince is is overrated. It doesn't mean I don't like them or that I don't they're talented or influential. For me, they just get a bit too much love. Discuss.
First 4 Talking Heads albums are classics. Then they just got a bit too commercial. I consider them under rated if anything.
As for Prince, probably the single most talented musician of the last 40 years. It’s impossible to over rate him.
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Originally Posted by
MOZZER2
simple minds
i could stomach the once upon a time album but thats it
Why do I get the feeling you’ve never heard Empires and Dance, sons & Fascination, Sister Feelings Call or New Gold Dream?
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Re: OK, the gloves are off .......over rated bands
Metallica.
guns and roses
R E M
Squeeze
DIRE straights
Loads of Nu metalbands like korn limp bisquit etc etc
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Re: OK, the gloves are off .......over rated bands
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Originally Posted by
ToTaL ITK
Metallica.
guns and roses
R E M
Squeeze
DIRE straights
Loads of Nu metalbands like korn limp bisquit etc etc
I don't think Limp Bizkit are overrated. They were successful. But I think they're widely considered to be shit.
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Re: OK, the gloves are off .......over rated bands
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Originally Posted by
NYCBlue
I will occasionally listen to the first six Sabbath albums consecutively. Great way to spend an afternoon.
groundbreaking music
They were finished after that
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Re: OK, the gloves are off .......over rated bands
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Originally Posted by
stevo
First 4 Talking Heads albums are classics. Then they just got a bit too commercial. I consider them under rated if anything.
As for Prince, probably the single most talented musician of the last 40 years. It’s impossible to over rate him.
Being a talented musician doesn't count for much if the majority of your ideas are boring.
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Re: OK, the gloves are off .......over rated bands
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
groundbreaking music
They were finished after that
Definitely. Some people don't rate Sabotage. But I love it. I bought their last album, listened to it once and it's OK. Apart from that, I don't think I've listened to anything from Technical Ecstasy onwards in the last 40 years.
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Re: OK, the gloves are off .......over rated bands
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Originally Posted by
NYCBlue
Definitely. Some people don't rate Sabotage. But I love it. I bought their last album, listened to it once and it's OK. Apart from that, I don't think I've listened to anything from Technical Ecstasy onwards in the last 40 years.
First six great
The Mob Rules with Dio on vocals has its moments as does Heaven And Hell but like all bands they had their time then fell apart
Ozzys solo stuff with randy Rhodes was good
But the last studio album was nothing new
I saw the original line up in 1998 reunion tour when ozzy and Bill ward made up , Milton Keynes bowl on a summer night , amazing gig , ward was off the drink , ozzy was off the coke
They played for 3 hours , really tight but even then it was thanks lads , time to knock it on the head
Thats 22 years ago ff sake
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Re: OK, the gloves are off .......over rated bands
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
First six great
The Mob Rules with Dio on vocals has its moments as does Heaven And Hell but like all bands they had their time then fell apart
Ozzys solo stuff with randy Rhodes was good
But the last studio album was nothing new
I saw the original line up in 1998 reunion tour when ozzy and Bill ward made up , Milton Keynes bowl on a summer night , amazing gig , ward was off the drink , ozzy was off the coke
They played for 3 hours , really tight but even then it was thanks lads , time to knock it on the head
Thats 22 years ago ff sake
Did you see Ozzy at Sophia Gardens? I wish I'd gone to that. I don't know why I didn't. Maybe because I was going to Motorhead and The Jam around the same time. I probably thought it wasn't worth even asking if I could go out.
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Re: OK, the gloves are off .......over rated bands
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NYCBlue
Being a talented musician doesn't count for much if the majority of your ideas are boring.
A brilliant musician that imo couldn't write a song that was catchy without being exciting/original
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the other bob wilson
My opinion of the Arctic Monkeys is much like yours it seems, but you appear to me to be saying that I cannot feel exactly the same way about Queen who were a much hyped band when they first appeared in the mid seventies and stayed that way for most of their existence while Freddie Mercury was still alive.
No, not all. I was merely trying to point out disliking a band is different to saying they are overrated and for me Queen fall into that category.
If you feel Queen are over rated I'm not arguing the point; but would argue the point if your only justifcation was you dont like them.
Does that make sense? I know what I mean anyway :xmashehe:
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Re: OK, the gloves are off .......over rated bands
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Originally Posted by
NYCBlue
Did you see Ozzy at Sophia Gardens? I wish I'd gone to that. I don't know why I didn't. Maybe because I was going to Motorhead and The Jam around the same time. I probably thought it wasn't worth even asking if I could go out.
no I saw him in Birmingham