Re: Tory promises to build more homes
I don't believe politicians promises TBH.
I don't believe they even believe any of it either.
Recent events ought to have taught us that much.
A number of seasoned Political commentators seemed to describe today's events as 'successful' in as much as the current Gov't hoped to get through the day without too much mishap, backlash and difficulty. - What?!
Just how low has the bar dropped?! - if that is considered a valid objective.
They should be putting the Nation's interests first, not their own desperate survival.
Re: Tory promises to build more homes
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Originally Posted by
Organ Morgan.
I've edited your message in the interests of accuracy.
Not me, I just want them to build enough fecking houses and stop talking about it.
Re: Tory promises to build more homes
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Originally Posted by
Vimto
I don't believe politicians promises TBH.
I don't believe they even believe any of it either.
Recent events ought to have taught us that much.
A number of seasoned Political commentators seemed to describe today's events as 'successful' in as much as the current Gov't hoped to get through the day without too much mishap, backlash and difficulty. - What?!
Just how low has the bar dropped?! - if that is considered a valid objective.
They should be putting the Nation's interests first, not their own desperate survival.
Hear Hear that man:thumbup:
Re: Tory promises to build more homes
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Originally Posted by
WJ99mobile
I am predominantly a labour voter but can’t say I agree with your views.
I work for a large house builder and not only would we struggle to actually build that many homes as a country (there’s physically not enough trades to do the work required) councils can be highly inefficient and would not trust to build that many houses.
Also, I don’t like the fact we have to put social houses on private developments. Undermines property ownership but that’s just my view.
You are missing a trick then. In my area it goes roughly like this -
- Developer makes promise to include xyz
- Developer then says "oh actually we can't" and the local authority says "oh darn, thanks for trying"
Re: Tory promises to build more homes
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Originally Posted by
Vimto
I don't believe politicians promises TBH.
I don't believe they even believe any of it either.
Recent events ought to have taught us that much.
A number of seasoned Political commentators seemed to describe today's events as 'successful' in as much as the current Gov't hoped to get through the day without too much mishap, backlash and difficulty. - What?!
Just how low has the bar dropped?! - if that is considered a valid objective.
They should be putting the Nation's interests first, not their own desperate survival.
tbf to the government a day where something doesn't go massively wrong is quite rare at the moment.
Re: Tory promises to build more homes
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Originally Posted by
Eric Cartman
You are missing a trick then. In my area it goes roughly like this -
- Developer makes promise to include xyz
- Developer then says "oh actually we can't" and the local authority says "oh darn, thanks for trying"
Such as? For us, it’s a Planning requirement
Re: Tory promises to build more homes
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Originally Posted by
ninianclark
Corbyn reading from a script (nothing wrong with that) but it sounds this is the first time he has read it.
Just seem the beginning of his response on the news and it was truly woeful delivery.
Re: Tory promises to build more homes
There has been a media driven narrative for seven years that austerity was the only option. Austerity has failed. The national debt is considerably larger now than seven years ago. Osborne said the deficit would be cleared by 2015. He failed. So we continue to spend more than we bring in with tax receipts so the national debt continues to rise.
Sadly this doesn’t bring back those that have committed suicide because their welfare benefits were stopped as they were allegedly fit for work. We have a friend who is going through a tribunal shortly. Her welfare payments have been stopped. She has breast cancer and had issues with her brain making it incredibly difficult for her to walk. Despite her doctor writing a letter supporting her all the way her welfare benefit was not reinstated. It is shameful. This is the reality of Tory Britain. Targeted austerity of the weak and disabled.
Re: Tory promises to build more homes
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Originally Posted by
ninianclark
Corbyn reading from a script (nothing wrong with that) but it sounds this is the first time he has read it.
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Originally Posted by
Eric Cartman
Just seem the beginning of his response on the news and it was truly woeful delivery.
Surely he would have heard most of this budget detail in real time - he seemed to be responding to points that he'd made written notes of - for some of the time. He warmed up a little after that I thought ;)
But for anyone who prefers thigh slapping, arm waving and loud, laughable bollocks, Panto season is nearly here, as is Brexit 'negotiations'. :thumbup:
Re: Tory promises to build more homes
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Originally Posted by
WJ99mobile
Such as? For us, it’s a Planning requirement
Well for starters there was a development about 200m from my door. Agreed by local area because it was supposed to have a hotel, care home and commercial units. These vanished and they build 90 more flats.
I saw program recently about property in london, I thought it was on channel 4 with phil spencer but I can't find it. He went to a couple of developments that were agreed based on them providing x number of 'affordable' units which never materialised.
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Originally Posted by
Eric Cartman
Well for starters there was a development about 200m from my door. Agreed by local area because it was supposed to have a hotel, care home and commercial units. These vanished and they build 90 more flats.
I saw program recently about property in london, I thought it was on channel 4 with phil spencer but I can't find it. He went to a couple of developments that were agreed based on them providing x number of 'affordable' units which never materialised.
This happens all the time. Shocking.
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Originally Posted by
Eric Cartman
Well for starters there was a development about 200m from my door. Agreed by local area because it was supposed to have a hotel, care home and commercial units. These vanished and they build 90 more flats.
I saw program recently about property in london, I thought it was on channel 4 with phil spencer but I can't find it. He went to a couple of developments that were agreed based on them providing x number of 'affordable' units which never materialised.
Sometimes the developer will pay x amount instead of building social units but that’s down to the council to decide and it’s rare. Even then the sums given to the council are substantial.
Re: Tory promises to build more homes
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Originally Posted by
WJ99mobile
Sometimes the developer will pay x amount instead of building social units but that’s down to the council to decide and it’s rare. Even then the sums given to the council are substantial.
Sounds like a bribe to me?!!?
Re: Tory promises to build more homes
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SLUDGE FACTORY
The daily mail , the sun , express , torygraph , sky news etc would be on them like a ton of bricks
However as it's the Tories messing up big time , they will let it lie
My mistake , it's even worse , the date for clearing the deficit is indeed 2025 , not 2022 as I initially said
That's ten fecking years later than the Tories promised in 2010 !!
What a bunch of charlatans !!
OBR says it'll take until 2031 to clear the deficit. It also forecasts sub 2% growth for several years.
Re: Tory promises to build more homes
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Originally Posted by
ninianclark
I saw a headline earlier where it said the Govt would be cracking down on companies who divert transactions overseas to avoid tax in the UK - facebook, apple Google etc
I would love to see how they are going to do that - whilst we are still in the EU
Given that the EU are hell bent on major legislation to do just this, can you explain how we can crack down on tax avoidance if we leave the EU and become another tax haven?
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Originally Posted by
ninianclark
They reduced corporation tax - and the tax take from corporation tax went up.
Because companies changed their financial year to make the most of this reduction, seeing an immediate rise then a significant drop afterwards.
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
No I am not saying that at all
Those earning decent money need to be taxed more but I am afraid we are too selfish as a country to accept that
It all started with Thatcher
what do you mean by "decent money" mate
as have others have pointed out we are already being taxed to buggerry
Re: Tory promises to build more homes
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Originally Posted by
Vindec
My post was merely correcting your assertion that increasing taxation primes the economy. It does not. As to my voting habits I am a now a floating voter as I regard myself to be sufficiently astute to make up my own mind and not follow blindly one particular Party. Although I was a card carrying member of the Labour Party for many years I couldn't bring myself to agree with much Corbyn and Co have to offer especially as the solution is not to chuck money at any problem that might arise.
Agree