Re: Genuine question for leavers
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Originally Posted by
Elwood Blues
If you were negotiating you'ld probably have told them
"£39 billion? Oh no we owe you more than that surely"
I'd hardly call last year many moons ago either!!
and the hysterical ad hominem begins. How much do you think we owe?
Many moons in the context of the PM and her rabble of supporters in parliament and the press getting their knickers in a twist yesterday.
Re: Genuine question for leavers
Here is how it went
Tory MP's and newspapers : Chequers is shit
EU : Chequers is shit
Tory MP's and newspapers : Bullies!
That is the parallel universe we have been transported to.
Re: Genuine question for leavers
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Originally Posted by
Eric Cartman
Here is how it went
Tory MP's and newspapers : Chequers is shit
EU : Chequers is shit
Tory MP's and newspapers : Bullies!
That is the parallel universe we have been transported to.
The Trump wannabe comparing it to a suicide vest hardly raised an eyebrow.
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Let's crash out , I'm up for the fight , not being bullied by a group that is trying to strong arm a country because it had the audacity to say were leaving , its got bugger all to do with our awkwardness, or a poor plan , its about frightening the death out of others who might try it.
Crickey the latest plan is a soft version of Brexit , not perfect in anyway and that's not good enough, what a bloody awful job this must be ,there is no positive outcome whichever way you turn.
Re: Genuine question for leavers
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Originally Posted by
life on mars
Let's crash out , I'm up for the fight , not being bullied by a group that is trying to strong arm a country because it had the audacity to say were leaving , its got bugger all to do with our awkwardness, or a poor plan , its about frightening the death out of others who might try it.
Crickey the latest plan is a soft version of Brexit , not perfect in anyway and that's not good enough, what a bloody awful job this must be ,there is no positive outcome whichever way you turn.
What fight are you up for?
Are you going to fight for the workers in Des's company to hang onto their jobs? And how are you proposing to do that?
Re: Genuine question for leavers
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Originally Posted by
Veg1960
What fight are you up for?
Are you going to fight for the workers in Des's company to hang onto their jobs? And how are you proposing to do that?
I wish I had the answer, what's your plan , as I see it , there is no deal unless we are forced into another referendum and the decesion is reversed.
And theres a lot of folk still going to vote out.
If we can't come up with a deal that is acceptable to the EU surely they should offer a solution , unless it's a case they don't have one ?
Re: Genuine question for leavers
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Originally Posted by
life on mars
I wish I had the answer, what's your plan , as I see it , there is no deal unless we are forced into another referendum and the decesion is reversed.
And theres a lot of folk still going to vote out.
If we can't come up with a deal that is acceptable to the EU surely they should offer a solution , unless it's a case they don't have one ?
To be honest, I don't have a solution. I don't think there is a sensible solution
I'm just hoping that Wales Bales is correct when he says we won't be allowed to leave
Re: Genuine question for leavers
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Originally Posted by
life on mars
Let's crash out , I'm up for the fight , not being bullied by a group that is trying to strong arm a country because it had the audacity to say were leaving , its got bugger all to do with our awkwardness, or a poor plan , its about frightening the death out of others who might try it.
Crickey the latest plan is a soft version of Brexit , not perfect in anyway and that's not good enough, what a bloody awful job this must be ,there is no positive outcome whichever way you turn.
What is the evidence of bullying?
Re: Genuine question for leavers
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Originally Posted by
Veg1960
To be honest, I don't have a solution. I don't think there is a sensible solution
I'm just hoping that Wales Bales is correct when he says we won't be allowed to leave
I think it might all come down to leverage, whose got what on who.
Re: Genuine question for leavers
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Originally Posted by
Eric Cartman
What is the evidence of bullying?
I'm getting a distinct sense of deja vu here.
Re: Genuine question for leavers
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Originally Posted by
Eric Cartman
What is the evidence of bullying?
I'm getting a distinct sense of deja......
Thats strange!!
Re: Genuine question for leavers
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Originally Posted by
Elwood Blues
No it doesn't
If they can more than they can get by bullying you can be sure the EU will do it.
My point is that bullying only takes place when one party has the advantage over the other in an uneven contest, which is at odds with the line that the EU needs an agreement as much as we do, as rolled out by some Brexiteers at the outset.
Re: Genuine question for leavers
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Originally Posted by
Veg1960
To be honest, I don't have a solution. I don't think there is a sensible solution
I'm just hoping that Wales Bales is correct when he says we won't be allowed to leave
Maybe we will be locked down and never allowed out again to vote , unless we promise to act like grown ups 😭👍
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https://mobile.twitter.com/Jim_Corne...23498754215941
Not sure whether to laugh or cry at this twitter thread. This guy should have led the remain campaign.
Re: Genuine question for leavers
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Originally Posted by
Eric Cartman
He’s an MP? :hehe:
Re: Genuine question for leavers
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Originally Posted by
Elwood Blues
No it doesn't
If they can more than they can get by bullying you can be sure the EU will do it.
You seemed to have missed my point entirely, old fruit.
Re: Genuine question for leavers
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Originally Posted by
Elwood Blues
I'm getting a distinct sense of deja......
Thats strange!!
If only someone could muster a coherent answer
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Just listened to today's interview comments , around Brexit , and the strategy its so clear now ?
Re: Genuine question for leavers
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Originally Posted by
Taunton Blue Genie
You seemed to have missed my point entirely, old fruit.
You seem to have replied twice old bean.
And I don't think I did.
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Are we out ,are we in , is it soft , is hard, is it Canadian ,is it Norwegian ,of is it a race for power and leadership , and duck the people ?
Re: Genuine question for leavers
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Originally Posted by
severncity
I voted leave because the EU is undemocratic, unaccountable, dominated by bullying Germany and in my opinion the stepping stone to a fascistic one-world corporatocracy.
So no.
I voted leave for the first three reasons above (not so sure about the fascistic one-world corporatocracy!). I feel somewhat vindicated by this announcement yesterday which confirms my thinking:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...u-court-ruling
Re: Genuine question for leavers
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Originally Posted by
Gofer Blue
You can add this greedy one as well https://www.instituteforgovernment.o...u-divorce-bill
dont see the usual pension moaners crisscrossing this pension, like they do of the business elite
Re: Genuine question for leavers
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Originally Posted by
life on mars
Who do you think should pick up the cost of Farage's pension?
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Originally Posted by
life on mars
What are you on about?
Re: Genuine question for leavers
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Originally Posted by
Veg1960
Who do you think should pick up the cost of Farage's pension?
Yes , hugely ironic .