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Re: CARDIFF CITY v SOUTHAMPTON. ko 7pm
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Re: CARDIFF CITY v SOUTHAMPTON. ko 7pm
None of our centre backs can pass the ball
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Re: CARDIFF CITY v SOUTHAMPTON. ko 7pm
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Originally Posted by
City123
None of our centre backs can pass the ball
correct. and the rest aint great:hehe:
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Re: CARDIFF CITY v SOUTHAMPTON. ko 7pm
The space between the defence and defensive midfield is so easy for Southampton to exploit. Just running at the centre backs without any fear, little to no pressure on the ball and able to pick out a pass. Phillips stopping this game from being a complete rout, but still 10 minutes to go.
A game that has helped highlight the current flaws with Cardiff and suggests that the only solution McCarthy has is to rely on Moore to be a game changer.
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Re: CARDIFF CITY v SOUTHAMPTON. ko 7pm
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Originally Posted by
SuisseBluebird
The space between the defence and defensive midfield is so easy for Southampton to exploit. Just running at the centre backs without any fear, little to no pressure on the ball and able to pick out a pass. Phillips stopping this game from being a complete rout, but still 10 minutes to go.
A game that has helped highlight the current flaws with Cardiff and suggests that the only solution McCarthy has is to rely on Moore to be a game changer.
Yeah it's a rout now.
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Re: CARDIFF CITY v SOUTHAMPTON. ko 7pm
4-0 Southampton. It isn't going very well
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Re: CARDIFF CITY v SOUTHAMPTON. ko 7pm
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Originally Posted by
SuisseBluebird
The space between the defence and defensive midfield is so easy for Southampton to exploit. Just running at the centre backs without any fear, little to no pressure on the ball and able to pick out a pass. Phillips stopping this game from being a complete rout, but still 10 minutes to go.
A game that has helped highlight the current flaws with Cardiff and suggests that the only solution McCarthy has is to rely on Moore to be a game changer.
It's just been really poor, Southampton cutting through us at will
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Re: CARDIFF CITY v SOUTHAMPTON. ko 7pm
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City123
It's just been really poor, Southampton cutting through us at will
Long long season ahead, anyone know how to get a refund on a season ticket? ....... 😂😂😂
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Re: CARDIFF CITY v SOUTHAMPTON. ko 7pm
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UNDERHILL1927
Long long season ahead, anyone know how to get a refund on a season ticket? .......
Just think of all the lucky barstewards who can’t use the tinternet :hehe:
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Re: CARDIFF CITY v SOUTHAMPTON. ko 7pm
Sooner people wake up to the drop in recruiting and playing standards and stop deluding themselves that we can get promoted with a load of kids and other peoples rejects the better.
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Re: CARDIFF CITY v SOUTHAMPTON. ko 7pm
First half was admissable considering the starting line up, Southampton in charge but City gave a decent showing at least. The goal conceded was a heads gone moment from Ng but Harris should have been more aware to the fact he had space to bring the ball forward.
Second half a complete different story, City all at sea and Southampton just turned the screw and kept piling on the pressure, would not have begrudged them from scoring 6 or more. They made it look easy.
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Re: CARDIFF CITY v SOUTHAMPTON. ko 7pm
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BLUETIT
Just think of all the lucky barstewards who can’t use the tinternet :hehe:
Hahaha
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Re: CARDIFF CITY v SOUTHAMPTON. ko 7pm
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BLUETIT
Just think of all the lucky barstewards who can’t use the tinternet :hehe:
They're ****ed, it's the ones that ain't got friends/family and access to free computers at the library that are ****ed
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Re: CARDIFF CITY v SOUTHAMPTON. ko 7pm
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RonnieBird
Sooner people wake up to the drop in recruiting and playing standards and stop deluding themselves that we can get promoted with a load of kids and other peoples rejects the better.
The criticism has been around for a few years now and is largely tied to the defenders and midfielders Warnock brought in with parachute payments, his spending choices have also restricted our budget to change things since, and overall playing philosophy of the club. It's the young players and more careful signings that change things around but will be take time.
Remember, i) it's pre-season and will be forgotten about after our first game and ii) everyone at the club knows about the issue are betting that the Championship is still more often Luton away than Swansea at home from last year.
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Re: FT: CARDIFF CITY 0 - 4 SOUTHAMPTON.
That was awful.
I know it's only a friendly against good quality opposition but we offered nothing, our midfield non existent and our defence all at sea without Morrison.
Until both he and Moore come back we are going to struggle. Even then we will still be s very ordinary side .
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Re: FT: CARDIFF CITY 0 - 4 SOUTHAMPTON.
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surge
The criticism has been around for a few years now and is largely tied to the defenders and midfielders Warnock brought in with parachute payments, his spending choices have also restricted our budget to change things since, and overall playing philosophy of the club. It's the young players and more careful signings that change things around but will be take time.
Remember, i) it's pre-season and will be forgotten about after our first game and ii) everyone at the club knows about the issue are betting that the Championship is still more often Luton away than Swansea at home from last year.
This hits the nail on the head RE: Warnock.
Think a lot of this board were in agreement when the Cardiff opted to give Warnock another crack at going for promotion with a Cardiff City team that required a complete new spine. Crazy to think that 2 years ago 10m was dropped on Flint and Glatzel alone.
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Re: FT: CARDIFF CITY 0 - 4 SOUTHAMPTON.
Didn't we get stuffed in a friendly, the season we got promoted under Malky ?
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Just really awful
If the press and long balls doesn't work, we literally have nothing going forward.
Once again passing and ball retention very very poor. No flair in midfield. We couldn't get Giles into the call. Played almost zero balls forward for someone to run on to.
And in the second half we completely lost our shape... The only shape we have played since Mick's been here. Bizarre
I feel sorry for the younger players coming into a team which doesn't like having the ball.
Looking at the players to come back... Of course we will be stronger, but none of the players coming back address the above issues.
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Re: FT: CARDIFF CITY 0 - 4 SOUTHAMPTON.
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AfricanBluebird
Just really awful
If the press and long balls doesn't work, we literally have nothing going forward.
Once again passing and ball retention very very poor. No flair in midfield. We couldn't get Giles into the call. Played almost zero balls forward for someone to run on to.
And in the second half we completely lost our shape... The only shape we have played wince Mick's been here.
I feel sorry for the younger players coming into a team which doesn't like having the ball.
A few times in the first half I noticed Bowen available in the midfield to carry yhr ball forward and we opted for the little dink over to play out wide and get the cross in. That's fine, but not EVERY move. We have to be intelligent enough to mix it up and realise when players are in better positions.
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Re: CARDIFF CITY v SOUTHAMPTON. ko 7pm
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Originally Posted by
AfricanBluebird
Just really awful
If the press and long balls doesn't work, we literally have nothing going forward.
Once again passing and ball retention very very poor. No flair in midfield. We couldn't get Giles into the call. Played almost zero balls forward for someone to run on to.
And in the second half we completely lost our shape... The only shape we have played since Mick's been here. Bizarre
I feel sorry for the younger players coming into a team which doesn't like having the ball.
Looking at the players to come back... Of course we will be stronger, but none of the players coming back address the above issues.
The club’s Twitter feed said “Southampton seeing plenty of the ball” when I looked at it in the first half and you can imagine Mick McCarthy saying something like “these are much better than us at passing the ball, so it’s important we keep our discipline and shape, don’t over commit and then maybe we can nick something from a set piece” before the match - trouble is, he probably said the same thing before we played Cambridge, Forest Green and Exeter.
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Re: FT: CARDIFF CITY 0 - 4 SOUTHAMPTON.
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Originally Posted by
BLUETIT
Didn't we get stuffed in a friendly, the season we got promoted under Malky ?
Recall Wales losing 3 nil to Sweden in a friendly before euro 16…..still, can’t say I’m too excited about this season. Happy to put my neck out and say it’s going to be pretty mundane crap, at least we are used to it I guess..:hehe:
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Re: FT: CARDIFF CITY 0 - 4 SOUTHAMPTON.
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the other bob wilson
The club’s Twitter feed said “Southampton seeing plenty of the ball” when I looked at it in the first half and you can imagine Mick McCarthy saying something like “these are much better than us at passing the ball, so it’s important we keep our discipline and shape, don’t over commit and then maybe we can nick something from a set piece” before the match - trouble is, he probably said the same thing before we played Cambridge, Forest Green and Exeter.
:hehe:
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Re: FT: CARDIFF CITY 0 - 4 SOUTHAMPTON.
Absolutely the same old same old, no movement, no pace, no creativity....
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Whats is the matter with you lot on here !! IT WAS A BLOODY FRIENDLY. Dont watch if you cant take it. Or better still, go and follow another club like Swansea or Bristol City - see where that gets you.
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Re: FT: CARDIFF CITY 0 - 4 SOUTHAMPTON.
I take most pre-season games with a pinch of salt whether we win or lose. What I sometimes cannot understand is the strategy behind some of the games we play.
Warnock's USA tour - why? We played, at best, against poor League 2 standard teams in blazing heat 4-5k miles away from the UK. How was that a good warm up (pardon the pun) for a Championship campaign.
Now McCarthy chooses a line up of kids and reserves for our last-but-one dress rehearsal for the Barnsley game. Why? I bet the team sheet for the Barnsley game looks nothing like that from today. So what exactly was the purpose? A semi-U23/reserve team mix got hammered by a Southampton team that played in second gear. Pointless. I'll say it - McCarthy out.
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Re: FT: CARDIFF CITY 0 - 4 SOUTHAMPTON.
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dml1954
Whats is the matter with you lot on here !! IT WAS A BLOODY FRIENDLY. Dont watch if you cant take it. Or better still, go and follow another club like Swansea or Bristol City - see where that gets you.
Will we suddenly play a different brand of football come the opening game?
People are making constructive remarks.
You try too hard.
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Re: FT: CARDIFF CITY 0 - 4 SOUTHAMPTON.
The fact that this was a friendly is neither here nor there. We’ve carried on playing the same dross as we last season and what concerns me is that the changes in playing staff is not making any difference.
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Re: FT: CARDIFF CITY 0 - 4 SOUTHAMPTON.
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Originally Posted by
dml1954
Whats is the matter with you lot on here !! IT WAS A BLOODY FRIENDLY. Dont watch if you cant take it. Or better still, go and follow another club like Swansea or Bristol City - see where that gets you.
Fair play, you are consistent.
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Re: FT: CARDIFF CITY 0 - 4 SOUTHAMPTON.
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The Hooded Claw
The fact that this was a friendly is neither here nor there. We’ve carried on playing the same dross as we last season and what concerns me is that the changes in playing staff is not making any difference.
McCarthy was a great choice to steady the ship after the Harris disaster but I'm still not sure why they didn't use that time to look at other options instead of panicking after a few gd results.
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Re: FT: CARDIFF CITY 0 - 4 SOUTHAMPTON.
What's the fuss they didn't score 5
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It cant help that all through preseason part of our spine has been missing. No Morrison to organise the defence, no Moore upfront and no consistency and creativity in the middle.
Got to admire MM though for bringing through many youngsters but is it a case of too many coming through at the same time?
Southampton were very good, but our shortcomings gave them the chance to be so.
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Re: CARDIFF CITY v SOUTHAMPTON. ko 7pm
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Originally Posted by
surge
The criticism has been around for a few years now and is largely tied to the defenders and midfielders Warnock brought in with parachute payments, his spending choices have also restricted our budget to change things since, and overall playing philosophy of the club. It's the young players and more careful signings that change things around but will be take time.
Remember, i) it's pre-season and will be forgotten about after our first game and ii) everyone at the club knows about the issue are betting that the Championship is still more often Luton away than Swansea at home from last year.
Fair enough and it’s also true to say that the few remaining quality players were absent for one reason or another.
Unfortunately though you just can’t think you’re going to compete at this level on the cheap and that’s what they seem to be trying to do.
The other thing I’m finding hard to avoid thinking is that MM doesn’t specially give a rats arse one way or another. He’s not going to argue about budgets and if he can blag it with a bunch of below average players that’ll be fine by him. He’ll give it a run if they pay him but if it goes completely tits up he’ll move n and forget it.
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Re: FT: CARDIFF CITY 0 - 4 SOUTHAMPTON.
Didn’t see the game but I’m a huge fan of Adams
Think he’s a top player
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Re: FT: CARDIFF CITY 0 - 4 SOUTHAMPTON.
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2b2bdoo
McCarthy was a great choice to steady the ship after the Harris disaster but I'm still not sure why they didn't use that time to look at other options instead of panicking after a few gd results.
Big Mick was going to take the Celtic job if we didn't give him a new contract.
Or something like that.
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Re: FT: CARDIFF CITY 0 - 4 SOUTHAMPTON.
I wasn't to bothered, considering the team we put out. Only Phillips, Nelso and Pack with any experience. I think we'll be OK this season.
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Just watched it and it was what said. Boys V men.
Not their fault but they’re not seasoned professionals and the trialist from Bristol City was very very far over the hill ( and far away).
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Re: FT: CARDIFF CITY 0 - 4 SOUTHAMPTON.
I'd have far more respect for MM if he addressed our glaring weakness in centre midfield. I know all about his vast experience at club and international level but I don't believe he would recognise a good footballer if one was handed to him on a plate. If he was given Modric the first thing he would ask him is, "how far can yer kick ball lad ?"
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Re: FT: CARDIFF CITY 0 - 4 SOUTHAMPTON.
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RonnieBird
Just watched it and it was what said. Boys V men.
Not their fault but they’re not seasoned professionals and the trialist from Bristol City was very very far over the hill ( and far away).
He was released by a very poor Bristol City side, who would have probably got relegated, if it wasn't for their good early season start.
I often peruse the Bristol City forum (otib) and they were happy to see him go.
Cue a 2-year contract for Marley Watkins...
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Re: FT: CARDIFF CITY 0 - 4 SOUTHAMPTON.
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cardiff55
I wasn't to bothered, considering the team we put out. Only Phillips, Nelso and Pack with any experience. I think we'll be OK this season.
Do you not think it is a worry that here we are, one more pre season game remaining, and we are putting a youth / reserve side out against a very good Southampton team? Hardly strung two passes together in the final third and only had one effort on goal?
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Re: FT: CARDIFF CITY 0 - 4 SOUTHAMPTON.
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Rock_Flock_of_Five
He was released by a very poor Bristol City side, who would have probably got relegated, if it wasn't for their good early season start.
I often peruse the Bristol City forum (otib) and they were happy to see him go.
Cue a 2-year contract for Marley Watkins...
Apart from one run and two incidents of pressing that resulted in us gaining possession, he was pretty anonymous.
Saying that as an attacking force we are pretty anonymous all round.