steve evans will be departing soon and would be a good choice. :thumbup:
although the canteen costs will go through the roof. :hehe:
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steve evans will be departing soon and would be a good choice. :thumbup:
although the canteen costs will go through the roof. :hehe:
Warnock or Robinson for me, and Warnock could be persuaded to come here as he has spoke well about us in the past and Cardiff is much nearer his home in Cornwall than up north.
Caldwell from wiganQuote:
Originally Posted by Llanedeyrnblue
Darrell Clarke from Rovers, he's done a decent job there on limited resourcesQuote:
Originally Posted by Llanedeyrnblue
As someone who doesn't work in the game I can only give a profile and reasons behind it rather than a name.
I don't think Tan's change of heart has extended to throwing around millions, nor would I want it to when we can go up on smarter buys rather than numerous and expensive transfers, and one of my biggest criticisms of Slade is that he hasn't managed to find anything worth looking at from the lower leagues, a cheaper market which we could be shopping in, when he maybe has more experience than anyone. I'd like someone who can identify talent in cheaper markets that they have experience of.
One thing you have to praise Slade for is that we have a much better group now than we did during the worst of the rebrand days. Looking at Leicester, at Burton, at Northampton and even at Wales and a close-knit group making the most out of its talents can definitely do well. I'd like someone who keep our squad close and fighting in the vast majority of the long Championship season.
Despite glueing the squad together I'm not sure Slade has even managed to warm himself to the supporters and, while I can do without Martinez type hyperbole, I reckon even by taking a few steps Slade can improve in this area immeasurably. First step would be to stop sounding so defeatist and limp in every interview, you don't have to be bullish or one-eyed but change "it's another tough game" when facing Rotherham at home to "ever championship game presents its challenges, Rotherham are tricky and fighting to stay in this division, I will want to see my players match that fight" and you're basically saying the same thing but with a little 'oomph' rather than a little 'umm'. Second step would be to have a proper look at our youngsters and especially young players from the South Wales area. Huddersfield have brought in an exciting manager and built a plan around developing youngsters and selling them on when needed so why can't we while holding on to them for slightly longer?
1. Someone who can make the most out of the limited budget Tan will provide
2. Someone who can continue Slade's good work of glueing the squad together as team spirit works
3. Someone who is a little more believable when speaking (and seeking to back that up rather than just get people on side)
4. Someone willing to give our youth a chance.
I reckon there is another Sean Dyche out there and he'd work for me.
When we've had this debate before I have said Pearson or Bellamy, and I still think they are the stand-out options for very different reasons, but both carry some risks.
Pearson has done it before, has a lot of experience, knowledge and contacts. He is a disciplinarian (so too Bellamy I expect) but his teams play good attacking football with pace. I think (based on limited knowledge) he also looks at and uses his u21s and u18s more than Slade. However he is likely to be expensive, he is fractious with the press, he may have problems with Vincent Tan, and he still lives in Sheffield - so unlikely to be attracted to South Wales unless there are compensating factors. Also I'm not impressed with his behaviour before leaving Leicester.
Bellamy knows the club and the city, is a student of the game, is passionate and interested in youth, Wales and innovative modern coaching and management ideas. He hasn't done his 2 year apprenticeship at Burton Albion which is a weakness, and he would come with no experience and no baggage, but a bundle of energy and invention. I doubt he would alienate many players, although he would probably end up at war with Steve Tucker. If he was to get the job I think he needs a mentor and/or new coaching team around him, together with changes in the Boardroom (fan and professional football representatives) and a new scouting set up - not reliant on Jose Mourinho, Glenn Roeder, or a loose network of officials at Vincent Tan's 'other clubs'.
Bellamy.
For the reasons already mentioned. Aside from the football the club generally seems to be in a good state at the minute, morale is generally good, Bellamy appointment could further enhance that. Limited experience but someone who will look to develop the club and have some sort of plan on moving forward.
I don't think think we will get anywhere near some of the other names in this thread.
How could a psycho like Bellamy "develop" the club? He only came here when is career was on its last legs. Laughable :hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by ccfcwelshlad
There are a lot of contenders as this thread suggests, inlcuding Warnock who I've always rated and the Northampton manager purely on his ability this season to make gold out of turd.
But my choice in an ideal world would be Bellamy and Dutch Ray. Both have worked together. You'd get a blend of youth + inexperience, experience, local AND insider knowledge, passion, leftfield thinking, discipline, nutrition and fitness regimes plus raw ambition / desire.
They could probably do great things with the players already here plus a few freebies, but the sky would be the limit with a bit of financial backing from Tan.
Craig Bellamy for me.
He's got the passion, knows football and has great contacts.
Really? Didn't he join Liverpool and have a very good season with them before rejoining us again?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tandy
How do you know he won't galvanise the club with Dutch ray with him and some decent coaches around him I think he could do a good job he's very well thought of and definitely has enough decent contacts in the game to exploit the loan market. The time now is for the modern managers coming through the Dinosaurs of the game are gone now just look at Eddie howe and what a fine job he's done at little old Bournemouth we need to go in the same direction before we get left behindQuote:
Originally Posted by Tandy
How do you know he won't galvanise the club with Dutch ray with him and some decent coaches around him I think he could do a good job he's very well thought of and definitely has enough decent contacts in the game to exploit the loan market. The time now is for the modern managers coming through the Dinosaurs of the game are gone now just look at Eddie howe and what a fine job he's done at little old Bournemouth we need to go in the same direction before we get left behindQuote:
Originally Posted by Tandy
That post is laughable. When he was at Man City he could have walked into pretty much any Premier League club. Even after leaving Liverpool he could have had his pick of most of them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tandy
Tandy thinks Slade knows more about football than Bellamy! :hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by Barry Shitpeas
What a dumb thing to say.You are the guy who thinks Slade is a god,numpty.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tandy
When a player is coming to the end of his playing days he starts thinking about a managerial position, which is what Bellamy is trying to achieve at CCFC. He is not interested in the club he is just trying to secure his future.Quote:
Originally Posted by Barry Shitpeas
Is that your opinion as someone involved in football with experience and knowledge of such matters?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tandy
What is wrong with that?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tandy
Which part of my post was dumb? Psycho, develop, last legs or laughable?Quote:
Originally Posted by jeepster
What's wrong with what?Quote:
Originally Posted by jamieccfc
Given the fact that Tan offered Bellamy the job when Malky was sacked, which he turned down of course, then his comments from him that he would want the job a few months ago after spending time learning with Ajax, and then Slade was allegedly given a few games to save his job earlier this year, it wouldn't surprise me at all if we were to see this happen, and very soon too.
Your complete post::thumbup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Tandy
Can you elaborate? Or is this the best you can do?Quote:
Originally Posted by jeepster
Shouldn't you be cutting out and prit sticking some Churchill quotes for Saturday Russ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tandy
So we bring in Bellars on big bucks then we bring in Dutch ray on big bucks then some decent coaches on big bucks you can see where this is going can't you? Do you want a club that lives within its means or do you want a club that throws all caution to the wind?
He IS interested in Cardiff. He was born here, played for us and still lives here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tandy
Securing his future? Are you real? He did that a long time ago. If he takes on a managerial job, it will be because he wants to, not needs to.
You think Russ has any deep connection with Cardiff?
Why would they be on big bucks? If the faw can afford Ray's wage then I can't see him being on big money
Can you answer all the questions I posed?Quote:
Originally Posted by jamieccfc
Bellamy has worked voluntarily for the Academy for the last two years so I don't think his wages would be astronomical and like Jamie said if the Welsh FA can afford Osian Roberts and Dutch Ray then I don't see why we can't.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tandy
Give back Ameobi and that should cover most of it!
Bellamy first managerial role can't exactly ask for big money, ray no way will be on big money and decent coaches doesn't equate to big money. You never answered my question on another thread on how many games have you attended this season?
I'll ask you againQuote:
Originally Posted by jamieccfc
Do you want a club that lives within its means or do you want a club that throws all caution to the wind?
I really don't think it's throwing "all caution to the wind" if you are spending on top quality coaching staff, if it extends into spending on risky or short-term signings as well then maybe.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tandy
As opposed to Slade and all those others knocking the door to be employed for free because they care so much about the club. Bellamy does have some affinity with the club, has different ideas and demands hard work - all of which could make him a fantastic manager.Quote:
He is not interested in the club he is just trying to secure his future.
Hasn't Warnock taken Paddy Kenny with him to Rotherham? We do not need experienced managers more interested in giving jobs to players he trusts than identifying and grooming talent.
How can you even consider Bellamy:facepalm: He's from Cardiff big fecking deal so am I. How can you call yourself a supporter when you have slagged Slade off all season. You are a disgrace.Quote:
Originally Posted by thehumblegringo
WTF! Why would we be living out of our means I'm pretty confident Bellers could secure a lot of young talent from man city and liverpool without breaking the bank while blooding our own talent personally I would love to see tutonda and Wharton given a crack next season. I'm more than happy to finish mid table if I can see the club going in the right direction and building a platform with the youngsters. Under Slade we have little chance of moving forward because he doesn't know how to he's an old fool stuck in his ways football is a changing game and you got to change and adapt with it but unfortunately he has been stuck down in the lower divisions for good reasons and doesn't know how to manage a modern top end football club . He might be a nice guy but nice guys always finish lastQuote:
Originally Posted by Tandy
Your post would imply that you think we don't have decent coaches at the moment.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tandy
Why would you want to stick with what we have if there's a chance we can get someone "decent"?
So you are quite happy to finish mid table as long as we play the youngsters? So Bellers is manager and we play the youngsters how do you think the fans would react if we finish mid table?Quote:
Originally Posted by jamieccfc
I've read that 3 times and I still don't understand it:sherlock:Quote:
Originally Posted by ken smith
You only read what you want. It's not just playing the youngsters it's building a platform for the club to secure future success football is a forever changing game look at what Bournemouth has achieved
You said if we employ Bellamy then we would have to pay big bucks for decent coaches. If the coaches we currently have are decent, why would we need to replace them?