Whittingham

Very good post.

The problem with a messageboard is that if an opinion is expressed, without hostility (I like Whitts and he is a skilled and loyal Cardiff City player) it becomes, over a few posts, an argument rather than a discussion.

It is simply my opinion that having him on the pitch at this point holds us back.

And I do believe that he confuses managers!

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FAO Eric The half a bee

it would be nice to have our forwards score 10 goals a season, so i dont think its fair to expect our midfielders to be shouldering the goal scoring burden

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Originally Posted by rich munn

Very good post.

The problem with a messageboard is that if an opinion is expressed, without hostility (I like Whitts and he is a skilled and loyal Cardiff City player) it becomes, over a few posts, an argument rather than a discussion.

It is simply my opinion that having him on the pitch at this point holds us back.

And I do believe that he confuses managers!

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I agree Whitts is coming to the end, but rather than ship him out to a "lower" championship or lge 1 club let's have him around to show new and young players the Cardiff way. We don't have a "way" at the moment so let's build it!

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Originally Posted by rich munn

Have you watched him plodding about recently?

Heartbeat? You must be joking. Go

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I said should! :hehe:

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Originally Posted by TISS

FAO Eric The half a bee

it would be nice to have our forwards score 10 goals a season, so i dont think its fair to expect our midfielders to be shouldering the goal scoring burden

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You disagree that players of Whittingham's calibre as a proven midfield goalscorer should be netting a decent number of goals? The number scored by our forwards is irrelevant here. If scoring goals is one of Whittingham's top attributes then it doesn't matter who else scores what.

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Originally Posted by Something Blue

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I agree Whitts is coming to the end, but rather than ship him out to a "lower" championship or lge 1 club let's have him around to show new and young players the Cardiff way. We don't have a "way" at the moment so let's build it!

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Agree with this. I believe that Whitts has a great deal still to offer to Cardiff City FC, but as has been said, no longer as a member of the first eleven. Squad player at best but with coaching responsibilities. Could contribute hugely to the development set up with his technical ability.

Keep him at Cardiff, 100%.

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Originally Posted by Elysium

Agree with this. I believe that Whitts has a great deal still to offer to Cardiff City FC, but as has been said, no longer as a member of the first eleven. Squad player at best but with coaching responsibilities. Could contribute hugely to the development set up with his technical ability.

Keep him at Cardiff, 100%.

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Yes let's build a "Cardiff way" Build our club as others have done.

I just hope the Hierarchy at the club see it the same way.

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Originally Posted by rich munn

Very good post.

The problem with a messageboard is that if an opinion is expressed, without hostility (I like Whitts and he is a skilled and loyal Cardiff City player) it becomes, over a few posts, an argument rather than a discussion.

It is simply my opinion that having him on the pitch at this point holds us back.

And I do believe that he confused "OUR RUSS"!


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FYP :hehe:

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Originally Posted by Blue in the Face

PROS

Great vision
Top level set pieces, corners, penalties etc. Worth several points over a season
Never injured. Making his wages more worthwhile
Nice guy and model pro
Settled in the squad
Fans love him
Looks cool when he scores

CONS

You have to build the team around him because of limits to his game. Hence the lopsided 4-4-2 the past year
Slow
Not a good defender
Very inconsistent and can go missing in games often
Can't dribble past players
Conservative and flat movement in most games
Doesn't take games by the scruff of the neck when things aren't going our way
Old now so re-sale value diminishing

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Best post in the thread-no emotion or derogatory comments about differing views.
I believe his effectivness is without doubt diminishing and we should be looking to replace him.He has been a fantastic player for us-one of the best midfielders ever but not anymore.Regretably I agree with the OP.

Confuses managers :hehe:

What the **** is that all about?!?

Ive seen many sticks being used to beat with Whitts with over the years but this is a new one.

Given the recent comments about stats I expect that Whitts is still one of our most productive players, and defensively he seems to be the one to make the professional foul time after time.

No one is saying he is the same player that scored 10+goals a season but his role at this club has changed and he still has much to offer. It may be the case that it some games it will be more beneficial to have a younger, quicker alternative but the fact that Whitts doesn't contribute as much in those games is as much the manager's responsibility as his.

He has a decent chance of finishing in our top 5 appearances and top 5 goal scorers and people will still be saying "he doesn't offer enough any more".

Making the professional foul hardly makes a case for his defensive ability-on most occasions it has been because he has been out paced.

Can Paulk get the most out of Whitts?

He doesn't suit 4-4-2 at all these days for me. Can a 5-3-2 or a 4-2-3-1 formation better bring out the best in Whitts?

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Originally Posted by Blue in the Face

Can Paulk get the most out of Whitts?

He doesn't suit 4-4-2 at all these days for me. Can a 5-3-2 or a 4-2-3-1 formation better bring out the best in Whitts?

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Yes. He is still the best fooballer at the club. They should shape the team around his strengths not try and winkle him into a position that doesnt suit.

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Originally Posted by CCFC CASUAL

Yes. He is still the best fooballer at the club. They should shape the team around his strengths not try and winkle him into a position that doesnt suit.

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Agree. Coleman played a formation to get the most out of his best players. Hodgson shoehorned his players into a fashionable 4-2-3-1.

I know which I prefer.

Anyone who says Whitts should go should consider watching another sport. Because sure as hell they nothing about football.

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Originally Posted by lardy

Agree. Coleman played a formation to get the most out of his best players. Hodgson shoehorned his players into a fashionable 4-2-3-1.

I know which I prefer.

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No he didn't, England played 4-3-3 didn't they (despite never playing it until the build up to the tournament)

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Originally Posted by Rjk

No he didn't, England played 4-3-3 didn't they (despite never playing it until the build up to the tournament)

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Tomato tomato, to me it seemed like Delli Ali was intended to be an attacking mid with Dier and Rooney as the two sitters. You can probably call it either, but the point is that Hodgson didn't pick a formation to get the best out of the players. Hence Vardy and Sturridge bumbling on the flanks, etc.

Typical of you Rich to jump at an opportunity to slag off Whitts.IF we had the right players in front of him and we perhaps were able to buy him time on the ball he still has lots to offer the City. You just can't or rather won't see it.

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Originally Posted by thornhillblue

Typical of you Rich to jump at an opportunity to slag off Whitts.IF we had the right players in front of him and we perhaps were able to buy him time on the ball he still has lots to offer the City. You just can't or rather won't see it.

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I like Whitts it just seems strange that no other club have made an offer for him. Perhaps they can see something we can't?
Love is blind so they say.:glasses:

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Originally Posted by Tandy

I like Whitts it just seems strange that no other club have made an offer for him. Perhaps they can see something we can't?
Love is blind so they say.:glasses:

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Is that smiley meant to look like RS or is it just a coincidence?

Thornhill Flu -

Did you look at the date of the original post, bumped by somebody else?

Or were you unable to see it? Or was it that you wouldn't see it?

I mean, 2 months to think of a reply is slow, even for you.

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