Re: All I have been hearing from OUT voters....
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Originally Posted by
blue matt
The fact remains, If you voted for control of our own immigration policies you are still not a racist, immigration has nothing to do with Race, If we had loads of un-skilled french coming over here, that would have been a reason to vote for more control on our borders
Immigration has nothing to do with race? It has every thing to do with race and tribalism and what nation state you have on your passport. You either believe in the idea behind the free movement of people or you don't. It seems that a big chunk of Brits don't.
Re: All I have been hearing from OUT voters....
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Originally Posted by
Cretin Hop
People say that there should not have been a referendum but the democratic system voted in a tory government on the premise there would be one, so now it has happened, it has happened. Democracy has ruled which is one major reason why this country is called Great. Britain.
Putting my pub bore hat on, that's not one of the reasons.
Re: All I have been hearing from OUT voters....
Zenith, do you actually know who is behind the EU, and who was behind Cameron? Do you know what the ultimate goal is? Do you know about the army of change management consultants who aim to take over every public body? The EU is not a social experiment that accidentally grew beyond itself. Everything that happens has been mapped out in minute detail.
Re: All I have been hearing from OUT voters....
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Originally Posted by
Blue in the Face
I don't doubt that you and many others did.
Now can you turn your attention to push for an actual democracy in this country...
http://www.unlockdemocracy.org/
Indeed, the fact that we ended up with a government that more than half of the population didn't want shows things need to change, with everyone online these days I think there should be some sort of system set up where the public can vote on the smaller issues and bills being put through too, I don't think the public would have agreed to letting them sell off the land registry for example had they been told about it and were able to vote on it, people forget that the government is there to serve the public not the other way around, they get away with far too much imo.
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Originally Posted by
Barry Dragon
Read this earlier. Sums up what has been going on:
Many of the leavers already felt marginalised, ignored and hated. The contempt – and sometimes snobbery – now being shown about leavers on social media was already felt by these communities, and contributed to this verdict.
I'm not one to care what people think normally but I have felt quite awkward at times over this tbh, I was looking forward to getting all these referendum arguments out of the way but it is clearly just the start of an era of more divide, we really must try and not let that happen for all of our sakes.
Re: All I have been hearing from OUT voters....
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Originally Posted by
Mrs Steve R
Indeed, the fact that we ended up with a government that more than half of the population didn't want shows things need to change, with everyone online these days I think there should be some sort of system set up where the public can vote on the smaller issues and bills being put through too, I don't think the public would have agreed to letting them sell off the land registry for example had they been told about it and were able to vote on it, people forget that the government is there to serve the public not the other way around, they get away with far too much imo.
I'm not one to care what people think normally but I have felt quite awkward at times over this tbh, I was looking forward to getting all these referendum arguments out of the way but it is clearly just the start of an era of more divide, we really must try and not let that happen for all of our sakes.
Remember the Blue v Red arguments? This is going to run for quite a while yet I think.
At least when Vincent Tan came to his senses, he was able to reverse his decision.
Re: All I have been hearing from OUT voters....
N I voted in Scotland voted in London voted in Cardiff and Bristol voted in. Why? if its down to being better educated and informed on migration then someone fecked up somewhere !