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Re: The one thing that's really upsetting about the brexit
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Originally Posted by
Croesy Blue
That so many of the next generation could have had the opportunity to study, love and work easily in 27 other countries taken away from them mostly by a generation who have had all these benefits available to them
Working abroad is one of the best experiences I've had in my life, learning new languages, meeting new friends and having new experiences that you wouldn't simply by living in the uk.
Also the potential for top jobs to be lost in this country, coming from the valleys I've already seen the effect jobs disappearing can have on a location a lot of places have changed from being vibrant close nit communities to glorified commuter towns.
There's the possibility that things might not change if a decent deal is negotiated by the next PM (are you happy having a far right Tory negotiating with your children's future?).
If you had a good reason for voting for leaving the EU fair enough, although I'm still yet to hear one reason that isn't conjecture, hate filled, conspiracy based or just wanting to return to the chocolate box uk of the persons youth. If you voted leave without having a good reason for it you deserve every bit of anger that comes your way, especially if it's coming from the younger generation who could have just had 1000s of opportunities pulled from under them by one selfish narrow minded vote.
Chill out man :thumbup:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nV567VNJFvw
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Re: The one thing that's really upsetting about the brexit
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Badly Ironed Shirt
There are more immigrants working here than there are unemployed people. Many are doing skilled jobs that would take the UK years to train people up for.
Link?
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Re: The one thing that's really upsetting about the brexit
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Originally Posted by
goslow
Link?
How remiss of me
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-35594650
http://www.migrationobservatory.ox.a...arket-overview
Quite obviously there are more foreign-born people employed in the UK than there are unemployed people in the UK.
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Re: The one thing that's really upsetting about the brexit
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Badly Ironed Shirt
It will be very interesting to see how this works. I know you were saying that even if the UK votes out, they'll stay in. Maybe you didn't say that definitively - but you suggested it I am sure (apologies if not). Did you think it would be Boris who would be hesitating?
Yes I did suggest it, I just had a feeling it wouldn't be as easy as is sounded, as soon as I heard Cameron say in his speech that we need the full engagement of the Welsh, Scottish and Northern Ireland governments to negotiate our exit alarm bells went off :hehe: Even though the EU said they want to get us out now asap I think that was just to put people on edge and make them think this really is going to happen, they could drag this out for a long time and create many problems along the way that prove to some people that leaving is not a good idea, I also think they could change the goal posts when it comes to the votes too because people are not happy with the result being so close, a few other things came to mind when I was watching the news last night but I forget what they were now, of course I don't know for sure what will happen but my guess is there will be plenty of fun and games before any exit takes place. :hehe:
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Wales-Bales
LOL yeah the first thing they did was stretch it out a bit, what chance a few (well a lot!) "events" occur before Article 50 is invoked? They have history on this :hehe:
One for each topic :hehe: do you think Boris will end up having a change of heart?
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Re: The one thing that's really upsetting about the brexit
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Originally Posted by
Mrs Steve R
Yes I did suggest it, I just had a feeling it wouldn't be as easy as is sounded, as soon as I heard Cameron say in his speech that we need the full engagement of the Welsh, Scottish and Northern Ireland governments to negotiate our exit alarm bells went off :hehe: Even though the EU said they want to get us out now asap I think that was just to put people on edge and make them think this really is going to happen, they could drag this out for a long time and create many problems along the way that prove to some people that leaving is not a good idea, I also think they could change the goal posts when it comes to the votes too because people are not happy with the result being so close, a few other things came to mind when I was watching the news last night but I forget what they were now, of course I don't know for sure what will happen but my guess is there will be plenty of fun and games before any exit takes place. :hehe:
Why does everything always have to have a hidden meaning, some kind of fog? Anyone in his position would have said the same. You don't want to be in, then hurry up so everyone left behind can start to sort themselves out. There's going to be huge upheaval, he wants to minimise it.
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Re: The one thing that's really upsetting about the brexit
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Originally Posted by
Mrs Steve R
Yes I did suggest it, I just had a feeling it wouldn't be as easy as is sounded, as soon as I heard Cameron say in his speech that we need the full engagement of the Welsh, Scottish and Northern Ireland governments to negotiate our exit alarm bells went off :hehe: Even though the EU said they want to get us out now asap I think that was just to put people on edge and make them think this really is going to happen, they could drag this out for a long time and create many problems along the way that prove to some people that leaving is not a good idea, I also think they could change the goal posts when it comes to the votes too because people are not happy with the result being so close, a few other things came to mind when I was watching the news last night but I forget what they were now, of course I don't know for sure what will happen but my guess is there will be plenty of fun and games before any exit takes place. :hehe:
One for each topic :hehe: do you think Boris will end up having a change of heart?
What you posted just over 24 hours ago.
"Seriously I'm not upset about that, I have expected to stay in all along."
I love the mental gymnastics you have to do to keep believing in your NWO narrative.
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Re: The one thing that's really upsetting about the brexit
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Originally Posted by
Croesy Blue
That so many of the next generation could have had the opportunity to study, love and work easily in 27 other countries taken away from them mostly by a generation who have had all these benefits available to them
Working abroad is one of the best experiences I've had in my life, learning new languages, meeting new friends and having new experiences that you wouldn't simply by living in the uk.
Also the potential for top jobs to be lost in this country, coming from the valleys I've already seen the effect jobs disappearing can have on a location a lot of places have changed from being vibrant close nit communities to glorified commuter towns.
There's the possibility that things might not change if a decent deal is negotiated by the next PM (are you happy having a far right Tory negotiating with your children's future?).
If you had a good reason for voting for leaving the EU fair enough, although I'm still yet to hear one reason that isn't conjecture, hate filled, conspiracy based or just wanting to return to the chocolate box uk of the persons youth. If you voted leave without having a good reason for it you deserve every bit of anger that comes your way, especially if it's coming from the younger generation who could have just had 1000s of opportunities pulled from under them by one selfish narrow minded vote.
Nothing to add to that. Brilliant.
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Re: The one thing that's really upsetting about the brexit
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Originally Posted by
lardy
Why does everything always have to have a hidden meaning, some kind of fog? Anyone in his position would have said the same. You don't want to be in, then hurry up so everyone left behind can start to sort themselves out. There's going to be huge upheaval, he wants to minimise it.
If you study the past you will know what is possible in the future.
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Re: The one thing that's really upsetting about the brexit
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Originally Posted by
Wales-Bales
If you study the past you will know what is possible in the future.
Classic Gluey
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Re: The one thing that's really upsetting about the brexit
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Originally Posted by
Croesy Blue
That so many of the next generation could have had the opportunity to study, love and work easily in 27 other countries taken away from them mostly by a generation who have had all these benefits available to them
Working abroad is one of the best experiences I've had in my life, learning new languages, meeting new friends and having new experiences that you wouldn't simply by living in the uk.
Also the potential for top jobs to be lost in this country, coming from the valleys I've already seen the effect jobs disappearing can have on a location a lot of places have changed from being vibrant close nit communities to glorified commuter towns.
There's the possibility that things might not change if a decent deal is negotiated by the next PM (are you happy having a far right Tory negotiating with your children's future?).
If you had a good reason for voting for leaving the EU fair enough, although I'm still yet to hear one reason that isn't conjecture, hate filled, conspiracy based or just wanting to return to the chocolate box uk of the persons youth. If you voted leave without having a good reason for it you deserve every bit of anger that comes your way, especially if it's coming from the younger generation who could have just had 1000s of opportunities pulled from under them by one selfish narrow minded vote.
I agree with you. There's a first.
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Re: The one thing that's really upsetting about the brexit
Classic classics, read what the ancient Greeks had to say on the subject.
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Re: The one thing that's really upsetting about the brexit
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Originally Posted by
Wales-Bales
Classic classics, read what the ancient Greeks had to say on the subject.
Enlighten me.
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Re: The one thing that's really upsetting about the brexit
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lardy
Enlighten me.
He's already told you to read everything the ancient Greeks wrote, what more do you want?
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Re: The one thing that's really upsetting about the brexit
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lardy
Enlighten me.
I am not responsible for you failed education :thumbup:
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Re: The one thing that's really upsetting about the brexit
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Wales-Bales
I am not responsible for you failed education :thumbup:
Classic Gluey, tries to look smart with nothing in the locker :hehe:
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Re: The one thing that's really upsetting about the brexit
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Originally Posted by
lardy
Why does everything always have to have a hidden meaning, some kind of fog? Anyone in his position would have said the same. You don't want to be in, then hurry up so everyone left behind can start to sort themselves out. There's going to be huge upheaval, he wants to minimise it.
It doesn't always :hehe: well Boris wants to take his time so they are going to have to wait, can't see it being sorted asap can you?
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Richyrich
What you posted just over 24 hours ago.
"Seriously I'm not upset about that, I have expected to stay in all along."
I love the mental gymnastics you have to do to keep believing in your NWO narrative.
I have expected to stay in all along, I was very surprised by the result tbh, we haven't left yet though, have I mentioned the NWO in my posts about the EU? I don't recall saying I was voting out because of that have I? I think you have mentioned it more than me. :hehe:
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Re: The one thing that's really upsetting about the brexit
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Mrs Steve R
It doesn't always :hehe: well Boris wants to take his time so they are going to have to wait, can't see it being sorted asap can you?
I have expected to stay in all along, I was very surprised by the result tbh, we haven't left yet though, have I mentioned the NWO in my posts about the EU? I don't recall saying I was voting out because of that have I? I think you have mentioned it more than me. :hehe:
No I don't think it will be sorted soon but I also don't think the eu are planning with Brexit, which is what you seem to be suggesting.
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Re: The one thing that's really upsetting about the brexit
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lardy
Classic Gluey, tries to look smart with nothing in the locker :hehe:
You seem to be the Chihuahua of the message board, constantly yapping :hehe:
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Re: The one thing that's really upsetting about the brexit
This may be of some interest to the more erudite posters on here
http://blogs.lse.ac.uk/europpblog/20...n-eu-treaties/
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Re: The one thing that's really upsetting about the brexit
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Wales-Bales
You seem to be the Chihuahua of the message board, constantly yapping :hehe:
I look forward to outing you under your next username :thumbup:
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Re: The one thing that's really upsetting about the brexit
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Originally Posted by
Colonel Cærdiffi
He's already told you to read everything the ancient Greeks wrote, what more do you want?
I would but I mislaid my rosetta stone
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Re: The one thing that's really upsetting about the brexit
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Originally Posted by
Mrs Steve R
It doesn't always :hehe: well Boris wants to take his time so they are going to have to wait, can't see it being sorted asap can you?
I have expected to stay in all along, I was very surprised by the result tbh, we haven't left yet though, have I mentioned the NWO in my posts about the EU? I don't recall saying I was voting out because of that have I? I think you have mentioned it more than me. :hehe:
Because you haven't got the courage of your convictions but everyone knows the subtext of your posts.
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Re: The one thing that's really upsetting about the brexit
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lardy
I look forward to outing you under your next username :thumbup:
been known for a while so hardly think you outed him :hehe:
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Re: The one thing that's really upsetting about the brexit
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Richyrich
Because you haven't got the courage of your convictions but everyone knows the subtext of your posts.
Why does everything always have to have a hidden meaning, some kind of fog? :hehe:
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Re: The one thing that's really upsetting about the brexit
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Mrs Steve R
Why does everything always have to have a hidden meaning, some kind of fog? :hehe:
For what it is worth, I also very much doubt that a Brexit will occur. It looks like what we are seeing now is the long prepared Plan B.
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Re: The one thing that's really upsetting about the brexit
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Wales-Bales
For what it is worth, I also very much doubt that a Brexit will occur. It looks like what we are seeing now is the long prepared Plan B.
i,m still waiting for the chinese battleship :hehe:
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Re: The one thing that's really upsetting about the brexit
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Packerman
i,m still waiting for the chinese battleship :hehe:
What?
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Re: The one thing that's really upsetting about the brexit
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Croesy Blue
Unfortunately the exact attitude I'd expect, it's a huge shame.
Especially from a man who found love and work away from where he was born. Who knows if the next generations of scots would get the same opportunity you did if Scotland leaves the union. And I hope they do now, the scots have come out of this looking genuinely more enlightened than the English and Welsh and deserve their independence and access to the EU.
You could always move to Scotland, or Ireland, or anywhere else in the EU. You yourself have said how much you love travelling and meeting new people. Learn yet another language. The world is your oyster.
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Re: The one thing that's really upsetting about the brexit
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severncity
You could always move to Scotland, or Ireland, or anywhere else in the EU. You yourself have said how much you love travelling and meeting new people. Learn yet another language. The world is your oyster.
The world is your Lobster Delboy :hehe:
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Re: The one thing that's really upsetting about the brexit
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severncity
You could always move to Scotland, or Ireland, or anywhere else in the EU. You yourself have said how much you love travelling and meeting new people. Learn yet another language. The world is your oyster.
I actually am moving abroad for work next month, I was thinking it would only be for 2 years but now I'm hoping to extend it indefinitely. What that has to do with the next generation being denied the same opportunity is beyond me.
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Re: The one thing that's really upsetting about the brexit
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Croesy Blue
I actually am moving abroad for work next month, I was thinking it would only be for 2 years but now I'm hoping to extend it indefinitely. What that has to do with the next generation being denied the same opportunity is beyond me.
Where are you going?
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Re: The one thing that's really upsetting about the brexit
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Croesy Blue
I actually am moving abroad for work next month, I was thinking it would only be for 2 years but now I'm hoping to extend it indefinitely. What that has to do with the next generation being denied the same opportunity is beyond me.
For the past decade around 140,000 UK citizens have emigrated every year, which is roughly 0.2% of the population. This much-vaunted freedom to work in the EU has been used by very few UK citizens.
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And what's more, only a small proportion of UK emigrants move to EU countries.
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Interesting - and much overlooked - take on Brexit. But is it going to be impossible to work in Europe once the exit is finalised? Will it not still be very much possible to work and live in Europe, in the same way you can do so in Canada, Australia etc (albeit with the obstacle of various processes and being subject to meeting certain criteria)?
My partner is Cypriot and when I move back to the UK at the end of the year I would very much like her to be able to follow me.
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Agree with opening post and told my son and daughter I thought the older generation owed the younger generation an apology for what they have done.
It is the older generation that have taken us out of the EU but the younger generation are the ones who will have to live with that decision.
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FormerlyJohnnyBreadhead
Interesting - and much overlooked - take on Brexit. But is it going to be impossible to work in Europe once the exit is finalised? Will it not still be very much possible to work and live in Europe, in the same way you can do so in Canada, Australia etc (albeit with the obstacle of various processes and being subject to meeting certain criteria)?
My partner is Cypriot and when I move back to the UK at the end of the year I would very much like her to be able to follow me.
I think the point is at the moment you can just up sticks and go to Europe. That was the beauty of it.
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severncity
For the past decade around 140,000 UK citizens have emigrated every year, which is roughly 0.2% of the population. This much-vaunted freedom to work in the EU has been used by very few UK citizens.
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And what's more, only a small proportion of UK emigrants move to EU countries.
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I have seen this data before so I'm not arguing with the source. Don't you find the number of Brits in Spain puzzling in light of this though?
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adz-a32
"This is the last '**** you' from the baby boomers. They took the secure corporate and government jobs with the guaranteed pay rises and final salary pension schemes and benefitted from property they bought cheap and sold dear. They burnt the bridges behind them by colluding with the dismantling of the very things that had brought them prosperity. Their last act will be to burn the economy before they die."
What a ridiculous generalisation!
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adz-a32
"This is the last '**** you' from the baby boomers. They took the secure corporate and government jobs with the guaranteed pay rises and final salary pension schemes and benefitted from property they bought cheap and sold dear. They burnt the bridges behind them by colluding with the dismantling of the very things that had brought them prosperity. Their last act will be to burn the economy before they die."
We also had good " glasto's "
you know, ones without Adele headlining on a saturday night :thumbup:
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blue matt
We also had good " glasto's "
you know, ones without Adele headlining on a saturday night :thumbup:
You know my opinion on what is the greatest Glasto...
