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Re: Slowed down or speeded up, the Welsh national anthem should be scrapped altogether.
Was there anything in paragraphs 2 to 55 of the OP that were about the anthem?
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Re: Slowed down or speeded up, the Welsh national anthem should be scrapped altogether.
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lardy
Was there anything in paragraphs 2 to 55 of the OP that were about the anthem?
The anthem is symbolic of the absurdity of foisting a medieval Celtic tribal language onto people in the modern era, when 85% of them cannot read, speak or write in Welsh.
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Re: Slowed down or speeded up, the Welsh national anthem should be scrapped altogether.
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lardy
Was there anything in paragraphs 2 to 55 of the OP that were about the anthem?
no
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Re: Slowed down or speeded up, the Welsh national anthem should be scrapped altogether.
What would you replace the Welsh national anthem with SD?
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Gabalphaville
What would you replace the Welsh national anthem with SD?
He's a royalist so probably GSTQ.
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TruBlue
He's a royalist so probably GSTQ.
Seriously? Feck. So he doesn't mind having an unelected, undemocratic, institution foisted on us then? That's interesting.
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Gabalphaville
Seriously? Feck. So he doesn't mind having an unelected, undemocratic, institution foisted on us then? That's interesting.
It's always a case of do as I say not as I do with Splotty.
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Gabalphaville
What would you replace the Welsh national anthem with SD?
Anything off the Thin Lizzy, Live and Dangerous album.
:hehe:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPnyOs8buXw
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TruBlue
He's a royalist so probably GSTQ.
Trublue, if I need you to speak on my behalf I'll let you know. But seeing as so far you seem incapable of putting any topics of your own on the political forum, I wouldn't hold my breath if I was you son.
You and a few other online clowns seem more preoccupied with attacking posters, than contributing on topics or issues with posts of your own.
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Re: Slowed down or speeded up, the Welsh national anthem should be scrapped altogether.
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Splott David
The anthem is symbolic of the absurdity of foisting a medieval Celtic tribal language onto people in the modern era, when 85% of them cannot read, speak or write in Welsh.
You clearly aren't responding to my comments. You never have directly answered my questions actually. Too scared to admit what you stand for is garbage? And that there are contradictions left right and centre?
hmmmmm:sherlock:
Anyway:
foist
past tense: foisted; past participle: foisted
impose an unwelcome or unnecessary person or thing on.
I think you'll find the vast majority of welsh people are happy with the current set up.
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Splott David
Without doubt best post you've ever written SD I salute your good taste in This matter 👍👍👍🎸🎸
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As Kenwyne says above, many Welsh people are passionate about our anthem.
I can accept that splotty doesn't like it, but he's a lone voice imho, evidenced by how thousands of us spontaneously sing it during a game.
It is a celebration of our history, our culture and our language.
If nobody bothered singing it, maybe he'd have a point, but until then "bydded i'r hen iaith barhau"
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CardiffIrish2
Without doubt best post you've ever written SD I salute your good taste in This matter 👍👍👍🎸🎸
Limehouse Lizzy playing Barry on Saturday night in case anyone is interested
http://www.limehouselizzy.co.uk/tour...ABUY+ONLINE%2A
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Re: Slowed down or speeded up, the Welsh national anthem should be scrapped altogether.
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Splott David
Nonsense Eric, it goes to the very heart of the problem, with activists and former cottage burners, trying to foist a medieval tribal language that was used by a bunch of poorly educated illiterate villagers onto nearly three million people in modern day Wales.
The responsibility for communication lies with the person who is the communicator. We have no Welsh speaking monoglots in Wales, they all understand English.
So are you suggesting that Welsh speakers shouldn't be allowed to speak Welsh? Surely that is a breach of a fundamental human right? Censorship, whatever you want to call it.
You cannot impose a situation whereby Welsh speakers are not allowed to speak Welsh, no more than you can impose a situation whereby non Welsh speakers have to understand Welsh. A Welsh speaker would be perfectly entitled to talk to me in Welsh if they desire. The fact I won't understand half of it might just change the situation if that person wants me to understand them.
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Gabalphaville
What would you replace the Welsh national anthem with SD?
Sospan Fach or Calon Lan.
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Re: Slowed down or speeded up, the Welsh national anthem should be scrapped altogether.
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Eric the Half a Bee
So are you suggesting that Welsh speakers shouldn't be allowed to speak Welsh? Surely that is a breach of a fundamental human right? Censorship, whatever you want to call it.
You cannot impose a situation whereby Welsh speakers are not allowed to speak Welsh, no more than you can impose a situation whereby non Welsh speakers have to understand Welsh. A Welsh speaker would be perfectly entitled to talk to me in Welsh if they desire. The fact I won't understand half of it might just change the situation if that person wants me to understand them.
Which part of the responsibility for communication lies with the communicator did you fail to understand?
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Gabalphaville
What would you replace the Welsh national anthem with SD?
Throw the jew down the well.
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Re: Slowed down or speeded up, the Welsh national anthem should be scrapped altogether.
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Eric the Half a Bee
So are you suggesting that Welsh speakers shouldn't be allowed to speak Welsh? Surely that is a breach of a fundamental human right? Censorship, whatever you want to call it.
You cannot impose a situation whereby Welsh speakers are not allowed to speak Welsh, no more than you can impose a situation whereby non Welsh speakers have to understand Welsh. A Welsh speaker would be perfectly entitled to talk to me in Welsh if they desire. The fact I won't understand half of it might just change the situation if that person wants me to understand them.
Plaid Cymru was closely monitored by MI5 throughout the war and a list of 156 potential "traitors", as they called them, was drawn up for arrest should a German invasion actually take place."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/wales/ent...a-c7c4f79dbe87
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Re: Slowed down or speeded up, the Welsh national anthem should be scrapped altogether.
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Splott David
Which part of the responsibility for communication lies with the communicator did you fail to understand?
So are you suggesting that Welsh speakers should be allowed to speak Welsh?
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Splott David
And your point in relation to my post is.....?
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Splott David
Trublue, if I need you to speak on my behalf I'll let you know. But seeing as so far you seem incapable of putting any topics of your own on the political forum, I wouldn't hold my breath if I was you son.
You and a few other online clowns seem more preoccupied with attacking posters, than contributing on topics or issues with posts of your own.
You might think you don't, but you're so thick I feel I need to help you. :thumbup:
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Re: Slowed down or speeded up, the Welsh national anthem should be scrapped altogether.
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Eric the Half a Bee
And your point in relation to my post is.....?
Which part of my original post are you struggling to understand Eric?
"Only the other day I witnessed a young couple with a North Wales accent board a bus in Albany Road and insist to the driver that they will ask for fares and directions in Welsh. He was understandably confused and we all watched as he was delayed explaining to both of them that he didn’t understand a word that they had asked him, when they had reverted to using Welsh. Both got frustrated with him, finally speaking only in English, and then proceeding to complain loudly to each other in Welsh when seated."
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Splott David
Which part of my original post are you struggling to understand Eric?
"Only the other day I witnessed a young couple with a North Wales accent board a bus in Albany Road and insist to the driver that they will ask for fares and directions in Welsh. He was understandably confused and we all watched as he was delayed explaining to both of them that he didn’t understand a word that they had asked him, when they had reverted to using Welsh. Both got frustrated with him, finally speaking only in English, and then proceeding to complain loudly to each other in Welsh when seated."
Stop trying to fudge the issue and give me a response that doesn't involve paragraphs of gumph.
Should people in Wales that speak Welsh be allowed to if they so wish? Yes or no. A one word answer is all that is necessary.
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Eric the Half a Bee
Stop trying to fudge the issue and give me a response that doesn't involve paragraphs of gumph.
Should people in Wales that speak Welsh be allowed to if they so wish? Yes or no. A one word answer is all that is necessary.
Read my post on the subject, it's self explanatory.
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Re: Slowed down or speeded up, the Welsh national anthem should be scrapped altogether.
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Eric the Half a Bee
Stop trying to fudge the issue and give me a response that doesn't involve paragraphs of gumph.
Should people in Wales that speak Welsh be allowed to if they so wish? Yes or no. A one word answer is all that is necessary.
Stop playing the fool Eric, how can someone speak Welsh to a person who does not understand one word of it?
How can someone insist that they will speak Welsh whether they are understood or not. Can a doctor treating a road traffic victim insist on speaking in Welsh to a patient who doesn't understand a word he is saying?
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Splott David
Stop playing the fool Eric, how can someone speak Welsh to a person who does not understand one word of it?
How can someone insist that they will speak Welsh whether they are understood or not. Can a doctor treating a road traffic victim insist on speaking in Welsh to a patient who doesn't understand a word he is saying?
Ok, then just to avoid confusion, you would be happy for Welsh speakers to speak Welsh to each other, then? I think we agree that a Welsh speaker making an issue out of someone not being able to understand and use the language back is strange, to the point where I'm not sure this really happens. Should Welsh speakers be encouraged to use Welsh when they can?
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Splott David
Stop playing the fool Eric, how can someone speak Welsh to a person who does not understand one word of it?
How can someone insist that they will speak Welsh whether they are understood or not. Can a doctor treating a road traffic victim insist on speaking in Welsh to a patient who doesn't understand a word he is saying?
No one believes your "insisting on speaking Welsh" story, unless you have evidence to prove it. It's merely an anecdote.
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TruBlue
No one believes your "insisting on speaking Welsh" story, unless you have evidence to prove it. It's merely an anecdote.
Foolish boy, Welsh language activists are doing it all the time, to see if they can get someone in organisations who is able to converse with them in Welsh. If not they then register complaints against those organisations. Why do you think we have a Welsh Flob Miester?
"A NEW commissioner’s power to impose a £5,000 fine on public bodies failing to use Welsh is little more than “tokenism”, say language campaigners."
http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wa...ng-use-2034022
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Splott David
Foolish boy, Welsh language activists are doing it all the time, to see if they can get someone in organisations who is able to converse with them in Welsh. If not they then register complaints against those organisations. Why do you think we have a Welsh Flob Miester?
"A NEW commissioner’s power to impose a £5,000 fine on public bodies failing to use Welsh is little more than “tokenism”, say language campaigners."
http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wa...ng-use-2034022
It's you no one believes for a start.
However company employees aren't expected to magically speak Welsh, companies over a certain turnover are expected to supply both Welsh and English literature. That's completely different to what you've been talking about.
You've been caught out lying once again. If not give me some evidence of this conversation. Something you can "feel and touch"?
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Splott David
This made me laugh out loud.
Do you just close your eyes and click 'quote' on any message, because it's clear it doesn't really matter what's said, you'll just say what you want anyway :hehe: :hehe: :hehe:
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TruBlue
It's you no one believes for a start.
However company employees aren't expected to magically speak Welsh, companies over a certain turnover are expected to supply both Welsh and English literature. That's completely different to what you've been talking about.
You've been caught out lying once again. If not give me some evidence of this conversation. Something you can "feel and touch"?
You're denying the existence of Welsh Language fanatics and extremists? Two of the fools blew themselves up in Abergale, Saunders Lewis went to prison for attacking an RAF base, groups of them burned down 200 cottages and issued threats to the owners of other homes, to leave Wales or face the same fate for their homes.
http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wa...arebar_twitter
Are you congenitally unable to resist following me on here like some demented puppy looking for approval?
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TruBlue
It's you no one believes for a start.
However company employees aren't expected to magically speak Welsh, companies over a certain turnover are expected to supply both Welsh and English literature. That's completely different to what you've been talking about.
You've been caught out lying once again. If not give me some evidence of this conversation. Something you can "feel and touch"?
I'm pretty sure I felt and touched a huge dollop of bullshit.
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tommy31
This made me laugh out loud.
Do you just close your eyes and click 'quote' on any message, because it's clear it doesn't really matter what's said, you'll just say what you want anyway :hehe: :hehe: :hehe:
You're a Flob speaking nationalist, so your opinion doesn't matter.
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Eric the Half a Bee
I'm pretty sure I felt and touched a huge dollop of bullshit.
From the man who insists that people should be speaking Welsh to others even though they may well not be understood.
There are no monoglot Welsh speakers in Wales Eric. Not one. It's just a very expensive folly foisted on the taxpayer as a way of achieving nationalist's aims and objectives by other means than burning down people's cottages.
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Splott David
You're denying the existence of Welsh Language fanatics and extremists? Two of the fools blew themselves up in Abergale, Saunders Lewis went to prison for attacking an RAF base, groups of them burned down 200 cottages and issued threats to the owners of other homes, to leave Wales or face the same fate for their homes.
http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wa...arebar_twitter
Are you congenitally unable to resist following me on here like some demented puppy looking for approval?
These people will be few and far between. Now I've never heard anyone insist on speaking in Welsh in my 38 years living in Cardiff, I don't think many other people have either.
Now it strikes me as a massive coincidence that someone who has a history whinging about the Welsh language and an even bigger history for being caught out lying again and again happens to to stumble across a couple who insist on it. As I said just show us some proof of this conversation and I'll take it all back.
Otherwise I'll continue to call you a liar. :thumbup:
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Eric the Half a Bee
I'm pretty sure I felt and touched a huge dollop of bullshit.
I'm not sure what's funnier, the fact he thinks we are all going to fall for it, or the fact he's just seen as a comedy character on here.
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TruBlue
These people will be few and far between. Now I've never heard anyone insist on speaking in Welsh in my 38 years living in Cardiff, I don't think many other people have either.
Now it strikes me as a massive coincidence that someone who has a history whinging about the Welsh language and an even bigger history for being caught out lying again and again happens to to stumble across a couple who insist on it. As I said just show us some proof of this conversation and I'll take it all back.
Otherwise I'll continue to call you a liar. :thumbup:
Am I supposed to feel sorry for you because you practice online tourettes? Or because you follow me around from thread to thread getting schooled? Which is it?
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Splott David
Am I supposed to feel sorry for you because you practice online tourettes? Or because you follow me around from thread to thread getting schooled? Which is it?
Most of the threads have been made by you since you sadly came back, before that we used to have some decent debates on here.
I notice not even any of your mates have helped dive in on this thread to help you out.
As for getting schooled :hehe:
I catch you out lying in nearly every thread, and proved you don;t answer any questions when asked the other day. I hate to be rude but you are pretty thick. :thumbup:
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Splott David
From the man who insists that people should be speaking Welsh to others even though they may well not be understood.
There are no monoglot Welsh speakers in Wales Eric. Not one. It's just a very expensive folly foisted on the taxpayer as a way of achieving nationalist's aims and objectives by other means than burning down people's cottages.
I can take it, then, that you fully advocate destruction of the Welsh language and would like to bar every attempt to use it.
Yes/No?
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TruBlue
I notice not even any of your mates have helped dive in on this thread to help you out.
I'm not going to tell you where you've gone wrong here, but see if you can guess......
