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Organ Morgan.
I highlighted one of the reasons why. Notice the corporate media never describe Trump as Donald?
Because Clinton = Bill Clinton. Besides "Hillary" now has some ugly connotations over there, the average American hates her.
A good documentary for you all is Michael Moore in Trumpland, was on Channel four last night.
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Originally Posted by
Organ Morgan.
I highlighted one of the reasons why. Notice the corporate media never describe Trump as Donald?
Nothing to do with him and his business interests always being self called Trump?
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Bluebird since 1948
Not a Trump fan but I can't for the life of me understand why people over here are so pro Hillary? She's going to be the most corrupt president there's ever been and if you thought Obama has been a war mongering prick and an awful president then you ain't seen nothing yet.
Very true. Unfortunately.
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Wales-Bales
Why would people want to hear when they have already bought the MSM's "lesser evil" narrative? Don't forget that serial molester Trump is in Putin's pocket, and Vlad has been hacking Clinton's email to help Donald become President :biggrin:
It could well be that Trump is controlled opposition and an ingenious "truther". Any other serious Republican nominee should be wiping the floor with Hilary on the issue of the arms selling to ISIS via Libya alone. Why has that not happened?
And is it the Ruskies who are behind the leaks or are they another proxy?
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Originally Posted by
Organ Morgan.
I highlighted one of the reasons why. Notice the corporate media never describe Trump as Donald?
Yeah it is strange that. Wonder why?
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Eric Cartman
You know the other side are loons when me and you are arguing the same point. :-)
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TruBlue
You know the other side are loons when me and you are arguing the same point. :-)
Blowing your own Trumpet? :biggrin:
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Originally Posted by
Organ Morgan.
Any Yank who could be bothered to avert their gaze away from Dancing with the Stars these past years would already know Clinton's totally corrupt and a mega criminal. Though, a very large minority, if not a majority of their citizens believe 9-11 was an inside job and yet not one of them has reached for a firearm to take a potshot at any of those who were in on its planning or cover-up. If this FBI re-opening of their investigation of her really is a problem then a very big distraction might be in the offing.
I wonder what our resident corporate media boot lickers will make of your link?
Dancing with the stars gets an average of 12 million in a country of 318 million.
Why do people always generalise about popular tv shows, as if everyone watches them?.
What are your hobbies? I imagine they are as meaningless as everyone elses.
Trashy, brainless TV has its place.
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Jesus, I know Hilary Clinton is far from perfect but don't tell me that Trump is some man of the people being picked on by the mainstream media and he is in fact some Victim??
I'd love to be a billionaire capitalist victim fair play....
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I think if republicans were not so dumb and had voted Marco Rubio in, he'd have walked it.
But nooooooo they try to turn the system on its head.
Clinton by a landslide :thumbup:
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TruBlue
One of the worlds biggest capitalists is apparently against the "system"?
Isn't there a theory going about that the Ruskies are trying to rig the vote so Trump wins? That would explain why the idiot DV supports him , but I thought you'd see through that sort of thing at least. :shrug:
It's Halloween so watch out Trueblue Putin might be hiding under your bed. Don't worry boy, I'm only joking. He's not there. In fact, whatever the papers tell you about Putin he is not interested in you or our country. He is being setup as a boogie man just like the Kaiser was before the First World War. We all fell for that and look how many lives it cost.
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CardiffIrish2
Jesus, I know Hilary Clinton is far from perfect
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oi54CVrTrbM
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David Vincent
It's Halloween so watch out Trueblue Putin might be hiding under your bed. Don't worry boy, I'm only joking. He's not there. In fact, whatever the papers tell you about Putin he is not interested in you or our country. He is being setup as a boogie man just like the Kaiser was before the First World War. We all fell for that and look how many lives it cost.
Didn't the Germans abolish their monarchy because of him?
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US election: How did two unpopular candidates rise to the top?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-us-2016-37802358
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LordKenwyne
Dancing with the stars gets an average of 12 million in a country of 318 million.
Why do people always generalise about popular tv shows, as if everyone watches them?.
What are your hobbies? I imagine they are as meaningless as everyone elses.
Trashy, brainless TV has its place.
I used that show as an example for all moronic TV shows (AKA entertaining distractions). I've seen research that suggest the typical UK person spends more time gazing at screens than sleeping each day. I daresay it's similar in the US.
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TruBlue
Nothing to do with him and his business interests always being self called Trump?
No, the corporate media routinely call her Hillary, and people tag along. It's even done the trick with Wales-Bales who's seen docs on Edward Bernays' methods. The idea is to humanise her... to make her friendlier and, ding-ding, more electable.
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Originally Posted by
Organ Morgan.
No, the corporate media routinely call her Hillary, and people tag along. It's even done the trick with Wales-Bales who's seen docs on Edward Bernays' methods. The idea is to humanise her... to make her friendlier and, ding-ding, more electable.
I've studied marketing and psychology, so I've always had an interest in these kinds of topics. Life is all about competitive advantages :thumbup:
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Rumours are swirling that the re-opening of the Clinton investigation involves ties to Jeffrey Epstein, a billionaire convicted kid fiddler, and both the Clinton's visits to his private island, dubbed Paedo/Lolita Island. https://twitter.com/Always_Trump/sta...38244895715328
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Originally Posted by
Organ Morgan.
Rumours are swirling that the re-opening of the Clinton investigation involves ties to Jeffrey Epstein, a billionaire convicted kid fiddler, and both the Clinton's visits to his private island, dubbed Paedo/Lolita Island.
https://twitter.com/Always_Trump/sta...38244895715328
When you say 'ties' to a known Paedophile, is the implication that the Clintons knew about his behaviour ? or ignored it in order to gain from the friendship in some way? - or something worse?
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Originally Posted by
Organ Morgan.
Rumours are swirling that the re-opening of the Clinton investigation involves ties to Jeffrey Epstein, a billionaire convicted kid fiddler, and both the Clinton's visits to his private island, dubbed Paedo/Lolita Island.
https://twitter.com/Always_Trump/sta...38244895715328
Isn't he Randy Andy's mate? I'm not one to deal in rumours though, I'll wait for the facts.
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David Vincent
It's Halloween so watch out Trueblue Putin might be hiding under your bed. Don't worry boy, I'm only joking. He's not there. In fact, whatever the papers tell you about Putin he is not interested in you or our country. He is being setup as a boogie man just like the Kaiser was before the First World War. We all fell for that and look how many lives it cost.
So the German invasion of Belgium and France was a false flag?who'd have thunk it.
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Wales-Bales
Isn't he Randy Andy's mate? I'm not one to deal in rumours though, I'll wait for the facts.
I just read up a little more - all from dubious sources, but yes, that seems to be the fellow.
Supposedly Prince Andrew went to this 'Lolita island' a few times.
And apparently a Mr Clinton a few times.
Ah.. and apparently a Mr Trump .. a few times.
Even if there is anything in it at all, I'm sure it will come to nothing. As ever.
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Originally Posted by
Vimana.
I just read up a little more - all from dubious sources, but yes, that seems to be the fellow.
Supposedly Prince Andrew went to this 'Lolita island' a few times.
And apparently a Mr Clinton a few times.
Ah.. and apparently a Mr Trump .. a few times.
Even if there is anything in it at all, I'm sure it will come to nothing. As ever.
I seem to recall that the modus operandi was allegedly capturing everything on film.
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EXCLUSIVE: Resignation letters piling up from disaffected FBI agents, his wife urging him to admit he was wrong: Why Director Comey jumped at the chance to reopen Hillary investigation: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...stigation.html
Apparently, Hillary Clinton's former PA Huma Abedin, who people surmise knew all her secrets, was married to a bloke called Wiener, who is well creepy by all accounts. He was under investigation for sexting a 15-year-old girl. On one of his computers was found 650,000 emails, many of them to and from his ex-wife from others. CNBC is reporting she has no idea how they are on his device.
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Originally Posted by
Organ Morgan.
No, the corporate media routinely call her Hillary, and people tag along. It's even done the trick with Wales-Bales who's seen docs on Edward Bernays' methods. The idea is to humanise her... to make her friendlier and, ding-ding, more electable.
Thankfully something world changing is going to happen on October 26th so the election will be scrapped.
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I like the Machiavellian theories in this article.
Now Hillary Makes Conspiracy Theory Credible: 50% Believe: http://www.alt-market.com/articles/3...ble-50-believe
Saturday, 29 October 2016 22:41 Anthony Wile
"Half Of Americans Believe 9/11 Conspiracy Theories … “The United States is a strongly conspiratorial society.” … A majority of Americans believe that the government is concealing information about the 9/11 attacks, one new survey suggests. And that’s not the only conspiracy theory believed by a wide swath of Americans: Around 40 percent believe the government is hiding information about aliens, the John F. Kennedy assassination and global warming." – The Huffington Post
Before, those who believed in 9/11 conspiracy theories hovered around 20-30 percent according to the mainstream media. Now it’s up to 50 percent, according to this article.
Hell, it’s probably more like 60-70 percent anyway. There is perhaps a hard core of 30 percent of people living in the US who will likely never acknowledge anything wrong with the system or people in power.
But for most citizens, we’ve long suggested the current election is destroying the credibility of the ruling classes and their facilities.
Whatever in government that was supposed to be credible, from the IRS, to the FBI, to the Justice Dept., Congress and the presidency itself, has been visibly damaged by Hillary’s election campaign.
You’d have to be virtually blind – or a staunch partisan of a mythical “USA” – not to notice that the Democratic front-runner has committed actions for which anyone else would have been significantly punished.
And not just Hillary of course but those surrounding her including Bill Clinton and the Foundation that allows them to trade political favors for cash.
Then there’s the mainstream media. The media has investigated little or none of the malfeasance and worse (murders?) surrounding the Clintons, and thus newspapers, magazines and TV, already deprived of viewers and ad revenue, have been further damaged by an obvious, ongoing lack of credibility.
Conspiracy theories about the JFK assassination abound, and scientists say these ideas have become embedded in the very culture surrounding his death, with heaps of TV shows, books and movies on them.
“We found clear evidence that the United States is a strongly conspiratorial society,” study lead author Christopher Bader, a sociologist at Chapman University in California, said in a statement.
In order to denigrate suspicion of the government, the study suggests that people’s views regarding conspiracies have to do with their own emotional makeup. In other words, “paranoid” people believe in “conspiracies.”
This canard worked better when the number of those voicing conspiracy theories was in the single digits, according to surveys. When half or more than half of the public begins to believe in them, something else is going on.
Neither the article nor the study (presumably) acknowledges that the CIA came up with the idea of calling people “conspiracy theorists” if they advance theories that the US government is corrupt and secretly tyrannical.
The conduct of this past campaign and the Clinton’s evident criminality has reinforced all that is wrong with the US in the views of many and, additionally, has made it clear that even the deepest suspicions of how the US operates are justified.
We can come away with two realizations from this.
The first is that despite Hillary’s possible election, the US as a valid and valuable entity is shattered in the eyes of many. This is actually a good development in our view given that the US (and its British controllers) has not been positive for freedom or peace in the world at least since the end of the Civil War.
The second conclusion, which is not a popular one but which we have voiced before, is that the disaffection of the American public was SUPPOSED to be heightened by the Hillary campaign.
The idea here is that chaos and paranoia is supposed to be endlessly increased until the US, like other nation-states, virtually shatters and more aggressive globalism can be introduced in the wake of the disintegration.
Western nation-states currently have strong cultures. These cultures need to be torn down if true globalization is to be introduced.
The banking elites of this world, mostly located in the City of London, are determined to introduce this chaos, it seems. In Europe chaos is mounting thanks to the introduction of the artificial “immigration crisis.”
In the US, Hillary has served in the place of immigration, cracking the US culture as thoroughly as millions of young Muslim males. Next on the agenda? Possible economic collapse and “world-war” style military activities.
Conclusion: Yes, it sounds grim … and even conspiratorial. But there is much you can do to secure your safety and prosperity – and that of your family’s and even your community’s. You have to realize the civil society you believe in is vanishing (or never existed). And you have to act.
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LordKenwyne
Clinton by a landslide :thumbup:
Think you could be very wrong there M'lord
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Polls tightening. Scroll down for an assortment of polls.
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2...ons/polls.html
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Blue in the Face
Polls tightening
So is Clinton's arse allegedly :getscoat:
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Blue in the Face
It's like having the choice between dog shit and cat shit. :hehe:
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Mrs Steve R
It's like having the choice between dog shit and cat shit. :hehe:
But at least that choice comes from a housebroken source.
These ****ers won't care where they defecate. :hehe:
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Blue in the Face
But at least that choice comes from a housebroken source.
These ****ers won't care where they defecate. :hehe:
You can be sure it will hit the fan whatever happens. :hehe:
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Originally Posted by
David Vincent
It's Halloween so watch out Trueblue Putin might be hiding under your bed. Don't worry boy, I'm only joking. He's not there. In fact, whatever the papers tell you about Putin he is not interested in you or our country. He is being setup as a boogie man just like the Kaiser was before the First World War. We all fell for that and look how many lives it cost.
WW2 was our fault.
Obvz.
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This is a very interesting interview between John Pilger and Assange who says a leaked email shows that Clinton knows that the Saudi Arabia and Qatar governments fund ISIS. He also claims that Trump will not be allowed to win.
https://www.rt.com/news/365299-assan...saudi-clinton/
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Originally Posted by
David Vincent
This is a very interesting interview between John Pilger and Assange who says a leaked email shows that Clinton knows that the Saudi Arabia and Qatar governments fund ISIS. He also claims that Trump will not be allowed to win.
https://www.rt.com/news/365299-assan...saudi-clinton/
From here on the interesting stuff will be what doesn't happen.
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Originally Posted by
David Vincent
This is a very interesting interview between John Pilger and Assange who says a leaked email shows that Clinton knows that the Saudi Arabia and Qatar governments fund ISIS. He also claims that Trump will not be allowed to win.
https://www.rt.com/news/365299-assan...saudi-clinton/
As you identified, the most important one is from Clinton to her campaign manager in which she acknowledges that Saudi Arabia and Qatar are providing most of the funding for ISIS. That particular one has been completely ignored by by the BBC et al because they don't want people to know that the US and UK governments are indirectly supporting those murderous terrorists by selling arms to Saudi Arabia who then pass some of them on to kill innocent civilians, including scores of Britons.
We also know that those Middle Eastern governments have given millions to the Clinton Foundation.
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Originally Posted by
Organ Morgan.
As you identified, the most important one is from Clinton to her campaign manager in which she acknowledges that Saudi Arabia and Qatar are providing most of the funding for ISIS. That particular one has been completely ignored by by the BBC et al because they don't want people to know that the US and UK governments are indirectly supporting those murderous terrorists by selling arms to Saudi Arabia who then pass some of them on to kill innocent civilians, including scores of Britons.
We also know that those Middle Eastern governments have given millions to the Clinton Foundation.
The BBC news is just a joke. The sad fact is that most listeners soak up all this anti-Putin and anti-Assad rubbish. I think I've mentioned before that I chat to quite a lot of East Europeans who lived through communism and they think the British are completely brainwashed.
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Originally Posted by
Organ Morgan.
As you identified, the most important one is from Clinton to her campaign manager in which she acknowledges that Saudi Arabia and Qatar are providing most of the funding for ISIS. That particular one has been completely ignored by by the BBC et al because they don't want people to know that the US and UK governments are indirectly supporting those murderous terrorists by selling arms to Saudi Arabia who then pass some of them on to kill innocent civilians, including scores of Britons.
We also know that those Middle Eastern governments have given millions to the Clinton Foundation.
So has the UK
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That Assange fella seems to be playing a "Russell Brand" type role in this ellection, knowingly steering voters towards Trump. I wonder what he has been promised, his freedom perhaps?
I don't think Trump is who he is making himself out to be either, I bet he has got some serious backing behind the scenes. He seems to be more like a bumbling Ronald Reagan kind of front figure put in place to deliver some nasty policies, while the real powers avoid any responsibility. All this talk of doing it for the people is laughable. In fact, he's the perfect person to be put in charge if there is a financial crash, as the people will be blamed for voting him in! With Trump acting as a mad lone-wolf the possibilities are endless :biggrin:
I wasn't sure what Mrs R was going on about regarding that Hegelian Dialectic stuff, but there seems to be some merit in that philosophy.
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Wales-Bales
That Assange fella seems to be playing a "Russell Brand" type role in this ellection, knowingly steering voters towards Trump. I wonder what he has been promised, his freedom perhaps?
I don't think Trump is who he is making himself out to be either, I bet he has got some serious backing behind the scenes. He seems to be more like a bumbling Ronald Reagan kind of front figure put in place to deliver some nasty policies, while the real powers avoid any responsibility. All this talk of doing it for the people is laughable. In fact, he's the perfect person to be put in charge if there is a financial crash, as the people will be blamed for voting him in! With Trump acting as a mad lone-wolf the possibilities are endless :biggrin:
I wasn't sure what Mrs R was going on about regarding that Hegelian Dialectic stuff, but there seems to be some merit in that philosophy.
Controlled opposition everywhere. :biggrin: It takes some practice to keep thinking with the dialectic in mind but you start to see things differently when you do, agenda 30 is one humongous Hegelian Dialectic :hehe: