Brexit to Blame again

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Originally Posted by Wales-Bales

Somebody senior wrote a report, and he clearly mentioned economic related civil unrest. The report was then used as a catalyst to set up the interoperability training groups. I guess we will know one way or the other about their purpose if things ever kick off. In the meantime, go and stick your head back in the sand :biggrin:

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Fair play, it's hard to come back with anything critical in the face of such extensively researched material as that isn't it :hehe:.

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

Fair play, it's hard to come back with anything critical in the face of such extensively researched material as that isn't it :hehe:.

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:hehe:

All of a sudden, anonymous EU beaurocrats are reliable sources.

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Originally Posted by lardy

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All of a sudden, anonymous EU beaurocrats are reliable sources.

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It's like Sky on transfer deadline day and their unknown sources.

I can imagine Gluey lapping it up.

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Originally Posted by TruBlue

It's like Sky on transfer deadline day and their unknown sources.

I can imagine Gluey lapping it up.

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Laugh all you want. The vote for a EU army received a majority result yesterday. A source said they will be a rapid response combat units with expertise is less-lethal weapons, specifically FN 303's. You don't have to be a genius to know that "less-lethal" weapons are designed for use against civilian populations.

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Originally Posted by Wales-Bales

Are you here to do a post about the Snoopers Charter? :biggrin: I was listening to Radio 4 earlier, and they were doing a PR piece about how it was going to be good for us :hehe:

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The Snoopers Charter is going to be good for all of us. Especially those who are *currently* doing nothing wrong.

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

Fair play, it's hard to come back with anything critical in the face of such extensively researched material as that isn't it :hehe:.

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Since when has it become de rigueur to provide a bibliography when engaging in general chit-chat on football message board? I'm not here to educate people or change opinions, I am merely mentioning in passing some of the things that I came accross.

I am well aware of the high levels of cognitive dissonance and confirmation bias affecting the population at large, so with regards to personal knowledge, I think it is best left to the individual to conduct their own research however they see fit and without influence.

I have also noted that the last 3 responses were personal attacks that completely avoided what was actually being said. Argumentum ad hominem is a logical fallacy, and a technique most commonly used by idiots.

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Originally Posted by Kris

The Snoopers Charter is going to be good for all of us. Especially those who are *currently* doing nothing wrong.

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:facepalm:Oh god, we have a live one :hehe:

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Originally Posted by Kris

The Snoopers Charter is going to be good for all of us. Especially those who are *currently* doing nothing wrong.

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The most valuable weapon used in politics is the "dirt file".

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Originally Posted by Wales-Bales

The most valuable weapon used in politics is the "dirt file".

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I wonder what's in TruBlue's "dirt file" :hehe:

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Originally Posted by Mrs Steve R

I wonder what's in TruBlue's "dirt file" :hehe:

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Are you insinuating that his rigid conformity is not of a voluntary nature? :sherlock:

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Originally Posted by Wales-Bales

Are you insinuating that his rigid conformity is not of a voluntary nature? :sherlock:

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Noooooo :hehe: I was being rude, just ignore me.

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Originally Posted by Mrs Steve R

Noooooo :hehe: I was being rude, just ignore me.

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Oh, that kind of dirt :biggrin:

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Originally Posted by Wales-Bales

Since when has it become de rigueur to provide a bibliography when engaging in general chit-chat on football message board? I'm not here to educate people or change opinions, I am merely mentioning in passing some of the things that I came accross.

I am well aware of the high levels of cognitive dissonance and confirmation bias affecting the population at large, so with regards to personal knowledge, I think it is best left to the individual to conduct their own research however they see fit and without influence.

I have also noted that the last 3 responses were personal attacks that completely avoided what was actually being said. Argumentum ad hominem is a logical fallacy, and a technique most commonly used by idiots.

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Oo, get you :hehe:. I only posted it as a joke, but it seems pretty obvious that a nerve has been hit.

Anyway, seeing as you take what I posted as a "personal attack", I'll say three things.

First, when said Football Message Board contains a section where some contributors have far more to say about politics than they ever do about football, then I would have thought the seriousness with which the subject is treated by some would mean that it would always help anyone's argument if they could back up what they are saying with an appropriate link.

Second, despite you being referred to as a loon by some on here, you strike me as an intelligent chap and so when I read your my neighbour's mate's, uncle's dog told me type stuff you sometimes post on here, I can't help thinking that you don't back it up with a link because you know full well that the source of this information would be dismissed as having no credibility if you did.

Third, the above may explain why what links you do use tend to come from the "despised" MSN.

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

Oo, get you :hehe:. I only posted it as a joke, but it seems pretty obvious that a nerve has been hit.

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I wasn't being entirly serious, just a bit of banter with the other two, they like a bit of rough and tumble :biggrin:

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Originally Posted by Wales-Bales

I wasn't being entirly serious, just a bit of banter with the other two, they like a bit of rough and tumble :biggrin:

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:thumbup:

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Originally Posted by Nelsonca61

Retail Sales Up
Employment levels up
FTSE climbing

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"In its analysis of the Autumn Statement, the independent think tank, the IFS, said workers would earn less in real wages in 2021 than they did in 2008.
"This has, for sure, been the worst decade for living standards certainly since the last war and probably since the 1920s," said Paul Johnson, director of the IFS.
"We have seen no increase in average incomes so far and it does not look like we are going to get much of an increase over the next four or five years either."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-38090977

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Originally Posted by Dr Tim Muff

"In its analysis of the Autumn Statement, the independent think tank, the IFS, said workers would earn less in real wages in 2021 than they did in 2008.
"This has, for sure, been the worst decade for living standards certainly since the last war and probably since the 1920s," said Paul Johnson, director of the IFS.
"We have seen no increase in average incomes so far and it does not look like we are going to get much of an increase over the next four or five years either."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-38090977

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